>ukie army has a transcarpathian unit that is commanded by a hungarian philosopherShit is wild.
>>216021229we have literal Magyar as a chief of UAVs
I can’t wait until all of Europe (and America too) is fighting side by side under the single unifying goal of the complete extermination of Russia. Soon.
>>216021347don't talk edgy like that even if you probably have the right thing in minda no-fly zone over Ukraine itself + more weapon supplies for Ukraine would probably be enough to make Russia back down and end their aggression
>>216021397I don’t care about Russia backing down, and I’m not trying to be edgy either. It’s obviously easier for me to say this when I live across the ocean, but I genuinely believe the world would be a better place if Russia was destroyed. Sure, it would probably trigger a larger scale war that would cause a brief period of suffering in Europe, but it would be worth it to remove the parasite that is Russia from the global stage.
>>216021463obviously Russian society has deep flaws but it's still a nuclear power and they'd use their nukes if the state's existence was at stake, so existential wars are off the table against nuclear powerswhat would be possible likely without nuclear escalation is making them back down and cease their aggression, but even that is unrealistic because the political west lacks the unity and resolve to do that
>>216021397>no-fly zone over Ukraine itselfThat's a declaration of war.>more weapon supplies for Ukraine would probably be enough to make Russia back down and end their aggressionIsn't that what's been happening for nearly 4 years?>>216021463>I genuinely believe the world would be a better place if Russia was destroyedI feel the same about JewSA.
>>216021229VGH Hunnic warriors
>>216021347Won't happen. The transformation of western right from nazis and racialists into monarchists is near complete.>the new right is merely a project and we are it's authors
>>216021463>I genuinely believe the world would be a better place if Russia was destroyed.Same thing goes for Israel and Romania btw
>>216021533>That's a declaration of war.so? Russia would lose that war and would no longer be able to continue their aggression.>Isn't that what's been happening for nearly 4 years?no, western countries still spend less than 3% of GDP on the military, only a fraction of which goes to Ukraine. Ukraine and Russia are in war economy and the military makes up the biggest portion of their state expenditure.
Shooting everyone at the FSB would be a good start
>>216021680Russia would wipe the floor with euroshits lol
>>216021347>Europe Will be taken over by arabs sooner than you think. Eurogoys are complete sissies.>and America tooYou'll be killed by a feral nigger, thus the planet will be a little bit better.
>>216021307Quite surprisingWe didnt manage to integrate those nolanders into our forces, almost 0 hungarians in army/police leading positions
The Magyars are migrating back to their homeland, one Slav at a time.
>>216021307what does he think about Hungary?
>>216022242If you did, this would you inevitably happen:https://youtube.com/shorts/cOs_TPtI6f0?si=N4UB-tER8oKs1bQ1
>>216021858Then start now Sashka
>>216021680>Russia would lose that war and would no longer be able to continue their aggression.Such a war would result in mutually assured destruction. >>216021680>western countries still spend less than 3% of GDP on the military, only a fraction of which goes to Ukraine. And despite that, Western economies are still experiencing sluggish growth, German specifically is announcing massive layoffs from carmakers because of high energy costs.
>>216022242>We didnt manage to integrate those nolanders into our forces, almost 0 hungarians in army/police leading positionsmaybe it's because you don't trust them?
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>>216022522>Such a war would result in mutually assured destruction.no it wouldn't. Russia isn't suicidal, they wouldn't use nukes just because their aggression is thwarted.this is Russian intimidation propaganda.>And despite that, Western economies are still experiencing sluggish growth, German specifically is announcing massive layoffs from carmakers because of high energy costs.ok? the German economy, let alone the western ones combined, still dwarf the Russian one.
>>216021858Poland alone would wipe the floor with ryssiä
>>216022652not very nice desuim not gonna judge his emotions but he could have phrased it differentlyafter all, Ukraine needs Hungary as much as it needs any other EU country because many important decisions require unanimity
>>216022659>Russia isn't suicidal???Both Russia and Europe are suicidal amd eager to destroy the planet over Ukraine.
>>216022659>they wouldn't use nukes just because their aggression is thwarted.from Russia's point of view it would be the defender in such a war, since NATO imposed a no-flyzone against its military. And even leaving aside nuclear weapons, Russia still has MUCH more military assets in and around Ukraine than NATO does, it will have a massive advantage over NATO in the initial stages of a war until NATO can move their military assets in place. >ok? the German economy, let alone the western ones combined, still dwarf the Russian one.And why would Western citizens accept goong to war with Russia, and severly hampering their own economies, for Ukraine's sake, Ukraine which isn't in NATO or the EU?
>>216022737relations with hungary is stable cold, and they veto everything possible regarding ukraine, and if believe ukrainian secret service even spying for russian interests
>>216022790no. The Russian leadership and Russian society are cynical and don't value human life much (either their own or their enemies'), but they're not suicidal. Putin was extremely sensitive over Corona, you think he would risk getting nuked?>>216022811>from Russia's point of view it would be the defenderyou seem to mix Russian propaganda with the actual Russian leadership. Putin is well aware he's the aggressor.>Russia still has MUCH more military assets in and around Ukraine than NATO doesground forces, probably yes, at first. Air force - no. NATO air forces would wreak havoc on Russian air assets and destroy their logistics in the hinterland, leaving the Ukrainian army the opportunity to advance on the ground and regain lost territory.>why would Western citizens accept goong to warI didn't say they would. You're moving the goalpost. Western societies are too comfortable and timid to give more than the absolute minimum to Ukraine.
>>216022927europoors and their rustbuckets will be mogged by experienced Russian pilots with r37s
>>216022927>Putin is well aware he's the aggressor.the aggressor against Ukraine, not against NATO. the imposition of a noflyzone against the Russian military will be seen by everyone in Russia as an act of aggression.>Air force - no. Again, NATO has much fewer air assets near Ukraine than Russia does, the Baltic countries have no airforces to speak of, Poland has only around 50 total combat ready f16s and f35s, Romania has only 40 f16s, Germany's fighter planes are too far away to fly to Ukraine and conduct missions without aerial refuelling, likewise with France's and Britain's. And NATO moving more of its air assets to the east will be picked up by Russian satellites and they'll start moving their air assets to before the noflyzone could be declared.
>>216023279yes indeed, NATO is very weak and Russia is very strong, opposing Russia is futile and we should preemptively surrender. I agree with you, John Smith from Yorshire Oblast.
>>216023279>Germany is too far away from Poland to fly their planes thereGenius, they should hire you as logistics commander
>>216023426>without aerial refuellingamazing how you just chose not to read that part>>216023380cope however you like.
>>216023508this might come as a shock to you, but did you know that airplanes can fly and land on other airbases closer to the combat area? indeed, they're currently doing that already, with western aircraft deployed to the Baltics, eastern Poland, Romania.
>>216023583>indeed, they're currently doing that already, with western aircraft deployed to the Baltics, eastern Poland, Romania.How many? a couple dozen, or 200-300, which is the amount needed to impose a noflyzone against a peer military and not some tinpot dictatorship in the middle east?
>>216023701it's funny how you keep moving the goalpost, as if the current objective of NATO was the imposition of a no-fly zone and not just political posturing/air policing. I'm sure you're a very objective guy and have no political agenda in mind ;)
>>216023766I'm just showing you infeasible a noflyzone is in the first place, noflyzones are only ever used when one side has complete aerial superiority, this won't be the case in a NATO-Russia war. Any talks of noflyzones from Western leaders is just postuting, news headlines for Western citizens to consume and think that the EU and NATO still have more options for helping Ukraine, no different than the Tomahawk discussion which Trump finally ended two days ago.
>>216021229Too bad hohols hate Hungarians and forbid schools from teaching the language
>>216023868yes man, as I said, I agree with you wholeheartedly. Russia is simply too strong, we shouldn't even try but better surrender ASAP.
>>216021533>That's a declaration of war.Nah it's grey area at best. And considering how many grey area actions russia is doing yearly from cables, border violations, hacking, etc. etc. It's about time the nato countries stop pussyfooting around and starts doing similar stuff
>>216023984>Nah it's grey area at best. they're nothing grey about it, shooting down another country's war planes when they haven't violated your borders is a clear act of war.>cables, border violations, hacking,notice how none of that results in loss of life.
Is it the same serbshit who gargles russian semen 24/7 on this board or is it multiple? I’m starting to think it’s just one sad pathetic individual who is so full of butthurt that he can’t help himself when anyone makes fun of Russian incompetence (which tbf they’re a fucking joke)
>>216024018it's legal under the UN charter to assist a country defending itself. Can you stop pretending to he an objective debater here? it's really cringe.
>>216024084>it's legal under the UN charter to assist a country defending itselfI never said anything about legality, its legal, and its a clear declaration of war, you would be joining a war to help the country defending itself, but for you personally it wouldn't be a defensive war, since that war wasn't strated against you in the first place.
>>216024068He's not even a Serb, he's a Russian draft dodging aging twink who lives in Serbia (he lived in Armenia previously)
>>216024147countries don't declare wars anymoreand NATO would winit's annoying to talk to a Russian cum gargler like you ngl
>>216024168>NATO would winNot in its current state it wouldn't, and I already explained to you why.
>>216024250your explaination is that NATO would lose because it's not possible to fly a plane from Germany to Poland due to distance
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