Why couldn't the West colonize East Asia unlike Southeast Asia? Except for Japan, China and Korea were at their weakest periods in history
you are literally america on steroids lol you are more cucked than any other asian country
>>216032553the west could barely colonize south america and africa. most of those places got independence going into the 19th and 20th centuriesthe empires were also already falling around ww1europe was too exhausted to really colonize east asiaeast asia had established states, they weren't like south america and africa with very primitive tribal non-state actorsbut even against africans it was toughhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Isandlwana
>>216032553russians tried to colonize manchuria and korea
colonize? it wasn't never about colonization in china, it was about take over, and they tried it many times, both spain and portugal
China: too much popJapan: fast Meiji restorationKorea: luck
>>216034837At that time, Korea also fought with France
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>>216033450>south america and africa with very primitive tribal non-state actorsSouth America had states prior to tonthe social breakdown due to diseases. The states in Southern Africa were pretty organized and had a very rigid hierachy. The Mfecane was very back and forth because you had Zulus making big strides in absorbing other states but also facing strong pushback for other organized states in the areas.
>>216034979https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_expedition_to_KoreaYep I knowAnyway we took Vietnam and maybe that + gommunism and two Indochina Wars are what made it SEA rather than East Asia. Racially the Vietnamese are in between. But culturally they used Chinese characters and were heavily Sinicized, and a tributary of China, just like Korea was. So maybe that turns your question around
>>216032553China and Korea did nothing, but Japan resisted against Euro and USA, that's all.
>>216032553They didn’t see people that you colonize, as a matter of fact, they gave them guns instead.
>>216036422The Portuguese learned their lesson from the Philippines
>>216032553Wat? The West literally colonized China. Did you forget about Shanghai, Hong Kong and Macao? Japan was basically colonized by the US and yours was too.
>>216032553Because Japan reformed themselves into a modern nation and China was mildly competent if easily defeated, they were unga Bunga tribesmen but a large organised state that in the minds of Europeans at the time, too large to conquer and actually rule themselves. And Korea got conquered by Japan
>>216039946Bankrupt Korea begged to be annexed by Japan, so we accepted unwillingly.And now, they insist "We were invaded!"We will never touch Korea.
>>216040238>accepted unwillinglyThat’s not accepting then
>>216032553People like to say 'quality over quantity' but no amount of training can prepare you for the 1,000,000,000 man wave. Also the capacity of ships played a factor.
>>216033508Vgh what could have been...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empresa_de_China
>>216032553I guess they don't count as "Western" but Russia did annex Outer Manchuria from China in the 1800s. Also they annexed Kuril Islands from Japan
