>men have to approach>men have to take the initiative>men have to handle rejection and humilliation>men have to be funny and interesting>men have to be stoic and caring>men have to always pay and have money>men have to make plans>women just need to exist
>>216221979just whoremaxx and stop trolling yourself by participating in gynocentric dating. if a woman puts you through that shit she isn't relationship material anyways.
You will never find success in dating with this mentality
Mostly true but if you're attractive many will take the initiative with you (many still won't though but if a girl actually likes you taking the initiative with her will be effortless)
>be friendly >be fun>be outgoing>whatever you do, don't treat sex and relationships as a prize for doing all of that
>>216222634Didn't expect a scooby sighting on /int/
>>men have to approach>>men have to take the initiativeRedundant points, someone has to do it>>men have to handle rejection and humilliationIt's easy if you accept that women are creatures of lower sapience>>men have to be funny and interesting>>men have to be stoic and caringnot necessarily, you just have to look fuckable and be somewhat lust provoking>>men have to always pay and have moneyYou're dating, not hiring an escort>>men have to make plansDo you really trust them making their own???>>women just need to existAnd you can always dump NPC hole for someone else if you think she's not worth the effort.God, I can't tell if this is some autistic imageboard meme, or if you guys really blackpill yourselves into defeat before even trying.>>216222179 is right; don't set yourself up for failure.
>>216225014>t. guy who gets rejected 300 times for every one unsatisfying tinder lay
>>216225256Do you even hear yourself?>another slut looking for an ego boost on the hookup app lost interest, oh no my heckin wholesome 100 value has been debased!Tinder is just a just pass time. You'll live.
>>216225014>someone has to do itYeah, and it's a man every time.>Do you really trust them making their own???These "people" are supposedly having jobs, so yes, I do. If they can't, they shouldn't have jobs outside of farm labor.>And you can always dump NPC hole for someone else if you think she's not worth the effort.Where is that "someone else"? In the room with us right now? Some men literally stay married for decades because they're out of options.
>>216225014>Redundant points, someone has to do itthe nature of the feminine is being passive even in this world of hypermasculinzed women both in the west and east women want men to be the ones the engage first>not necessarily, you just have to look fuckable and be somewhat lust provokinglike I said before that's only very small portion of the male population that can do that>men have to always pay and have moneythat should be the case in this world of women working and yet their nature still interposes against common notion>>216226084>Where is that "someone else"? In the room with us right now? Some men literally stay married for decades because they're out of options.true but in order to develop as a man you need to accept failure and that implies being capable of rejecting women of low value as well as always acting as if you have options be the case or not>These "people" are supposedly having jobs, so yes, I do. If they can't, they shouldn't have jobs outside of farm labor.they are women anon, their nature prevents them from engaging with reality
>>216221979you don't have to do any of those things if you are physically attractive
>>216221979In return you own her if you succeed, pretty great tradeoff>le equalityFuck off, faggot
>>216225014>women are creatures of lower sapienceI thought sexist attitudes were the reason for my incelibacy tho
>>216226678You cannot suffer in Brazil
>>216226678They are small, I can tell
You know something? I've kept noticing incels are always taking liberal standards at face value. >"But according to what women say, we are supposed to..."SHUT THE FUCK UP HOLY FUCK. There are no rules. Social norms were not molded to make you happy. Stop trying to make them make sense. It's a spaghetti mess of all of history's culmination, not some greater plan you don't fit into.If you find love, and you think it's exceptional and special, it's not, there is no exceptional because there is no standard to be exceptional from in the first place. I'm sorry if you're also autistic because this kind of world is not ideal for your brain, but it is what it is.
>>216228897You had me in the first half ngl
>>216221979don't date. join social groups, talk to people, including girls, gradually develop mutual feelings, etclots of my married friends have literally never dated. most couples don't even meet via dating
>>216229002But don’t you have to date before getting married?
>>216229002This shit only wrks if youre chad
>>216228953And I didn't in the second?
>>216222634>scoobis that faggot still alive?
>>216228897Then stop teaching kids false standards in school thenCan't be surprised that people seriously believed the shit they were relentlessly being told for decades during development and schooling
>>216221979Humiliation rituals for non-chads onlyFor chad, the one who this world us designed for, it's piss-easy
>>216229009dating is prostitute culture. the etymology of "date" is that prostitutes used to refer to their clients as "dates", but as culture became more misogynstic more women became open to "dating". the highest quality women are not interested in dates. these women are very rare in developed nations.
>>216221979It’s annoying but it’s like being angry at the sun for rising, it’s the way things are and hush they will always be. The anger us therefore wasted.
>>216221979the real humiliation ritual is when you finally get a gf you have to pretend they are an adult and not a child in an adult body
>>216221979True. Women must come and pick any moid they desire from specialized stores
>>216230087I like watching Ukrainian travel videos because the closer they get to the front the more depressed women in their 20s walking alone I see
>>216222057This so fucking much.I have only had sex with prostitutes and I respect them more than average thots. They are honest and give me what I want in exchange for money, no need to beg them and they don't talk shit about me. Just a professional transaction and bye.How can I not see the average thot as inferior when they have an uglier body and do it for free in hopes to control someone? fucking garbage.Do not go the incel way op, we humans need sex and it has always been available for everyone.
>>216230056>Then stop teaching kids false standards in school then Who are you talking to? The god of teachers? Your politicians? Are either of them here? You are a prime example of what I'm talking about. No one is going to save you. Save yourself.
>>216230405>The god of teachers? Your politicians? Are either of them here?That's irrelevant to my point. Don't be surprised that people believe the things they've been taught in school, and that they see regularly in mass media everywhere Seems like a massive disconnect between reality and social norms. At some point the norms have got to shift back towards reality....
>>216230447You're doing it again. Let me hit you with the truth. Even if your society gets fixed, by the time it DOES, it will be PAST YOUR TIME.Stop thinking about why society doesn't work exactly as advertised, and stake your own claims. Go your own way before you die.>Don't be surprisedNo one is surprised, we just shake our heads at how retarded incels are to wait and seethe until the world works as it was advertised to them. It's the same as liberal naivete but you don't even get their blind dumb occasional happiness.
>>216222057This I’m so checked out of dating that even getting approached does nothing for meI just like doing escorts every second weekWhite asian Latin and all young n cute
>>216230447>At some point the norms have got to shift back towards realityWorst case scenario, at the end of the century. Best case scenario, right before you die. So what are you gonna do about your life now today?
>>216230558Not interested in your motivational speaker pitch and weird projection fuck off
>>216230087ThisWomen make it easy for chad that he won’t have to trySo no point in jumping hoops.Rules and boundaries are for sub 7s
>>216229002>social groups>implying those have any women in them
>>216230586Don't reply to me then retard. I'm not trying to motivate you, I'm trying to point out that the problem of incels is idealism not cynicism.Boys who still hold out hope society can be as virtuous as they were taught will be left behind. Simple as. No one will help you.
>>216230637>the problem of incels is idealism not cynicism.Incels are just high inhibition nerds. It'd not as deep as you're making it out to be
>>216230673*It's
>>216230673The specific problem I speak of exists as long as there are incels who complain>"b-but women and society say we're supposed to..."
>>216230713That's just an excuse because they're high inhibition socially anxious nerds If society did say they could, they'd find some other reason not to
>>216230405>>216230519>>216230558>>216230637>>216230713>low trust third world mindsetkys
I matched with an Arab qt on a dating app and she seems niceI suck at dating and haven't even had a relationship so far but maybe it works out with her and we'll have kraut-Arab children togetherwish me luck bros
>>216230799Never race mix, wwht?
Can't count the number of chilenas that have masturbated for me on the Internet and you can't get not ONE of them to be your gf?I guess if you want to be successful with women in your county you use need to be whiteIt's not hard lad
>>216230779Uh-huh, so you say.>>216230784ควายDo you not see the first world and ALSO this country dying out because more and more men keep hoping (coping) they can wait until women play by the rules again?
>>216230807why notshe's cute and has curly hair which I like and she seems nice and smartI hope it works out with her
>>216230799godspeed Anon
>>216230205It's not. We can change things, don't just accept defeat that easily. Be it through societal change, genetically engineering ourselves to be smarter/more empathetic/more attractive, or just dating AI (or each other) in VR, the future is unironically bright.
>>216221979you don't "have to" do anything, just quit dating
>>216221979>approach> take the initiativenot necessary if you're attractive of course.from what I've seen it's women who do most of the first steps nowadays. they will approach guys they like physically . in a less direct way but will always manage to be around and pick up every pretext to chat with them. on the other hand if you do the approaching and she isnt receptive to you from the get go then give up on ever getting closer to her. took me a while to understand that progressively seducing someone is a lie made up in movies and visual novels. women function through immediate satisfaction and seeking their own well being at all cost. it has to suit their idea of a partner from the start, and most of the time this is based on looks. getting to know each other, making efforts to understand someone else, going on dates, and all that bs is a waste of time that leads nowhere. matter of fact dating is 200% controlled by women.
>>216230799good luck
>>216230851>>216230992thanks brosidk why I posted it here, I guess I'm just happy and wanted to bring a change to the negative tone of the threadbut I know I shouldn't expect too much
>>216230205>the way things are and hush they will always beThings weren't like this before the Boomers retard
>>216230799>I matched with an Arab qt on a dating app and she seems niceDude, you're playing with fire if you're not also a Muslim.
>>216231266it's fine, my best friend who's also a kraut has a Muslim Arab wife and it's fineif she was from a super conservative family she wouldn't be on a dating app and match with a kraut
>>216230808What is life in Guernsey like, seems like a pleasant little spot
>>216222057>if a woman expects courtship she isn't relationship materialbro whatanyone discerning but realistic is likely relationship material
>>216221979My gf approached me. I am far too autistic to even try such a thing.