Anglos treat each other like cousins and know a lot about each other, while Hispanics know nothing of each other and sometimes even detest one anotherEnglish people are close to their former colonies while Spanish people see them as completely alienThere is a strong sense of an Anglosphere but absolutely no sense of a Hispanosphere.Why is that?
You know the answer. You've been making slight iterations of this thread for weeks now. Go to bed.
Latinos are all the same and refuse to learn about how any of them are "different", not out of ignorance but out of principle. They need to understand the world doesn't care about their imaginary borders and that they're all just one thing to normal people.
What about the French sphere? Are French cousins with Africans?
>>216256746>AnglosphereThis also counts places like Grenada and Belize. I doubt your average American or Australian knows about these places. Maybe some brits know of some places due to Windward gen.Yes part of broader anglosphere otherwise you can't count panchitos as part of Hispanosphere.
>>216256746it's because the British empire was largely created because of the decline of the Spanish empire
>>216256789Ok but why is there a WASP identity in USA if all USoids wuz the same thang and muh melting pot n shieeet?
All latinx love each other but we despise spaniards.
>>216256746Anglos are educated and know history of their own family. Hispanics were low class with no education.I think it's similar to Japan and other archipelago nations in Asia. People in Hokkaido think they are the same Japanese as other Japanese islands because they are educated how their ancestors reached its island. But people in Indonesian or Philippines islands hate and murdering each other even though they have the same religion and exactly the same people. It's all education.
>>216256746i feel like germanics relate more to themselves than meds who love to infight over any bullshit and this is no different in latin americajust compare the scandinavian countries with spain or italy where each of their different regions hates each other
>>216256746This is because the English committed genocide and exterminated almost the entire population of their former colonies. An American, an Australian and a Canadian simply know that they are actually English and it is logical that they all stick together. Now, on the other hand, explain to me how the population of Mexico, Peru or Argentina can have a relationship with the Spaniards when the Mexicans and Peruvians are Indians, and there are a lot of Italians living in Argentina. In addition, Spain is no longer a superpower that leads the world, and they have not done with any of their colonies what the English did with America. Portugal turned Brazil into a gigantic country similar to America in terms of size and population, but that country looks more like a dystopian future of America in which whites will not be the majority. America's destiny is to become Brazil with an atomic bomb.
>>216257242>This is because the English committed genocide and exterminated almost the entire population of their former colonies.not true, they were pioneers defending their homes
>>216256976Why do most browntinxos hate Spain?Is it because theor national creation myth doesn't include spaniard btfoing?We and Venezuelans/Colombians wuz "libertadores" n shieeeet and therefore banter without real hate against the Spanish can exist
It's because the Commonwealth emerged among a time of global conflict and a historic duty to defend Pax Britannia
>>216257091Population and geographical location are also factors. They cannot quarrel with each other because they are isolated from each other and because they have a clear leader who no one can question. England, Australia and New Zealand are islands and in addition they are much smaller in population than America. America only has a border with Canada which also has a much smaller population than them. Here it is clear who is in charge. The English are like an elderly grandfather whose brain works at 200 per hour, America is like an IQ 90 grandson who is a martial arts master and listens to what his grandfather tells him. The others follow the lead.
>>216256746I just wish they stayed in their own respective countries, that's all
>>216257377Even Rhodesia was inside this bloc. There's a historical understanding held today where the allies did not have their own sense of internal values, that which were competing against a unified Nazi/Communist entity.
>>216256746A good part of the Anglosphere never rebelled, they remain seperate monarchies with the same monarch. The one that did rebel subsequently fought multiple wars alongside their parent nation solidifying the bond. Also the UK was relevant in the 19th and 20th centuries in a way that Spain simply wasn't, maintaining good relationships with the UK always made sense for the US.
>>216256746The problem is Hispanic's don't have a clear master. The Anglosphere bends the knee to America, like a family that orients itself around a strong father figure, or a wolf pack under an Alpha. The Latino's lack an Alpha to unite them, and they will forever be at each other's throats vying for dominance until one rises above and establishes order.
>>216256818> Are French cousins with Africans?At some degree, yes
>>216256746Go back in history and make it so that all Anglos are like 30% white and 70% native of wherever they settle, and come back to the present and you will get your answer
>>216257780>what is argentinalearn history, thirdie
>>216256746black legend myth by anglos and local elitesmost decent people I know imc and in argentina have healthy ties with the madre patria
>>216257835>every latinx country is Argentinanippon mind at work- oh wait you're not Japanese you faggot
>>216257902about 30% of New Zealand population is still indigenous and it's known for one of the happiest state with high HDI. You are a self-loathing brownoid wish all problems are coming from race.
>>216257835Never heard of them
>>216257971>about 30% of New Zealand population is still indigenousThey're not as strongly mixed with the main population as many latam countries.and it's known for one of the happiest state with high HDI.You're missing my point.>You are a self-loathing brownoid wish all problems are coming from race.Good projection.
>>216256825RARE
Reminder that Imperial Federation should have happened.
>>216256976nobody dislikes spain here panchito
Whites stick togetherPanchitos pull each other down
>>216259325callao sudaca chino
>>216257835Argentinians are mostly shitalians
If France actually put resources in it could easily lead a Latin Union consisting of southern latin europe and Latin America. Unfortunately it chose to fuck around in west africa and got nothing out of it
>>216259716Why would France want to do anything with those shitholes? Get this through your head, France isn't "Latin", "mixed race", "meridional", you name it.
>>216256976>All latinx love each otherlie
>>216256825Anglo settler colonies then. Places that received lots of ethnically British people.
>>216258570There was no way in hell UK politicians would ever consider their colonial equivalents worthy of equal political power/standing.
>>216259847Idk bro it just sort of looks latinx.
>>216256746Off the top of my head maybe because there is no undisputed 'top dog' among the Spanish speaking world I don't think anyone denies USA is top and the cultural centre (or should I say center) culturally, politically etc.
>>216260118We're actually the top dog of both the Hispanic and Anglo worlds.
>>216256789I agree and that's unironically my perspective on Indian countries (bangladesh, pakistan etc) and the balkans. Like, are you really fucking telling me that Croatian and a Serbian are different? No they're fucking not
>>216260081I remember the days Mexican posters and Argentinian posters were shitflinging each other on /int/. Now Mexicans are biting Americans and less care about Argentina. Mexicans are the most aggressive posters I guess.
>>216259716France could rule both the Anglosphere and Latinosphere if it wanted to. The Normans who ruled France and gave the British your high culture were speakers of French and the Bourbon Dynasty which ruled the Spanish Empire originated as a French dynasty too. The high culture and upper classses of both Anglos and Latins are Frenchmen.
Oops I meant the Normans ruled both Western France and the British Isles.
>>216260326the Plantagenets weren't Normans
>>216260355Forgive my ignorance, English is only my 3rd language. But isn't it true that they also spoke French, primarily?
>>216256746Anglos didn't mix with the natives like the Spaniards did, so all the Anglosphere nations are essentially the same stock.
>>216260368yes until the 1300s
>>216260377Oh so the Plantaganets reverted to speaking English then?
>>216260355Henry II of England...... son of Geoffrey V Plantagenet...... son of Fulk, king of Jerusalem...... son of Fulk IV, count of Anjou...... son of Geoffrey II, count of Gâtinais...... son of Hugues du Perche...... son of Fulcois, count of Mortagne...... son of... disputed. English and French wikis attribute him each a different father. Likely Frankish in origin.
>>216260400Yeah the English ruling class basically lost their French connection during The Hundred Years War and formed a more genuine loyalty to England
>>216256746In fact, thanks to the Internet, the hispanoesphera world has never been as united as before, you simply ignore it.
>>216256746the latinos are very in touch with each other, at least if you go by what you see on the internet
Because uneven developmentSpanish colonies had a mixture of indigenous economic system (akin to asiatic mode of production), slavery, semi feudal encomienda & proto-capitalist merchantilismBy the XIXth century this mixture of systems was becoming a great obstacle for society, thus the revolutions of independenceHowever, once achieved, the development was not evenly & uniform, indeed, slavery existed in Mexico (for example) as far as the early XXth centuryBy contrast anglo settler colonial countries all started as liberal capitalist democracies, with stable parlaments/constitutions
>>216260234Mexicans are aggressive everywhere, you learn to hate them for that reason
>>216257242>the English committed genocide and exterminated almost the entire population of their former coloniesTotally untrue though, and based on the American colonies and Australia (which were far less densely populated than the Central American colonies that Spain took over). Some Amerindian tribes carry West Eurasian Y-chromosomes at a rate of 1 in 3. One study on self-identifying Australian Aborigines found that 70% of them now have a West Eurasian Y-haplogroup.
>>216260456bro It's no longer 2012, the friendship is dead and we hate each other, deal with it
>>216256976>T. I love all my brothers except that brother.Naaah, you just have 2 problems.Your inner hate and having to deal with the way it rottens your soul.I hope you get a tasty meal today.Good luck from
>>216260109It was actually us in the colonies that were against it. They should have forced it through since they still had loads of power over us.
>>216256746Really anglos are more united and organized than Jews.
>>216261951>self-identifying Australian Aborigines
>>216259241Como ni sudaca mapuche, ustedes les queman las casas a los suizos qué viviendo en la patagonia ajjajjajjajajja
>>216263856holy fuck white people ruin everything
>>216256825Funnily enough my grandma was talking to me about belize the other day. They both have less than a million people though so it's not unusual to not hear much about them.
>>216256746Spainchuds feel insecure about their Arabic/Berber heritage and therefore despise Latinx folx (patrilineally descended through conquistadors from Muhammad PBUH)
^Remind me again why am I supposed to feel any "kinship" toward such people.
>>216256746Anglo kinship is somewhat recent, WW2 onwards. There was a lot of animosity between USA and Britain in the 19th century, and Americans were very reluctant on giving support to the Brits. The rest of the Anglosphere got independent more recently, on peaceful terms, and are just gradually drifting away from the home country, as their ethnic compositions change.And of course there's Ireland, that fucking hates England.
>>216266918Don't let Vox' lies get to you, we're both part of the Ummah akhi
For me it's the Dutchsphere
>>216267731>WW2 onwardsMore like late 19th century onwards. Especially around the time of the 1895 Venezuela crisis. But even before that we still traded a lot. Around the time of WW1 some people like Rudyard Kipling believed the world should be jointly ruled by some kind of Anglo-American-French alliance
>>216268916This vid covers some of it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_YYBitSBPs
>>216256746Ah yes, the "anglosphere">USAMe gusta a tacos, senor>CanadaSaar, do not redeem>UKDurka durka, allahu akbar>AustraliaChing chong tong fong>NZAsh nazg durbatuluk krimpatul
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>>216269706Dá acá un taco para nosotros
What is making some people of some nations in Hispanoamerica despise others more is because tens of millions of venezolanos, colombianos, mexicanos, etc, are going to other countries as ""refugees"" or economic inmigrants, so people are putting up with how the massive numbers are also destroying their own countries. Just like in Europe the massive number of africans and muslims are destroying Europe, it is the same in Hispanoamerica (at a lower level) because of the massive change of their socities that has been going on for the last 20-30 years.Even in Dominican Republic, millions of people from Haiti are emigrating there and destroying that country.So it is normal that tensions arise.
>>216256746Colonizacao de povoamento x colonizacao de exploracaoAmerica was an english village. Mexico was a spanish farm/mine.
>>216256746Latin american countries hasve some cohesion between themselves. I dont understand why you think the oposite.
>>216270093>Mexican person moving to another country in latin america as a "refugee" or economic immigrantThis doesn't happen, sister. Idk what you're smoking
>>216257286you brownoids are the ones that like and worship spain though rodrigez
