dont cry because it's gone, smile because it happened
>>216267310unironically CIA & MI6's fault o algo
>>216267310>and Panama!!!Explain.
>>216267310vgh imagine the poverty and murder rate
>>216267310>it happenedIt didn't, it never reached Essequibo. That is what we call a LARP map
lul
>>216267310It's funny that Simon Bolivar wanted to transform South America into a single country, and so he considered an alliance with Argentina and all the other South American countries to invade Brazil, because we were ruled by en european royal family o algo
>>216267558we give away part of the army for that useless nigga
>>216267440explain what?
>>216267310Why didn’t Bolivar try to unify the Caribbean and Central America instead of the south? Seems like a much smarter move considering the geography.
>>216267685Ayo lower your tone nigga
>>216269399I vaguely recall reading something about his opinions on the people of Gran Colombia, he basically hated governing them.
>>216267558VGH the good old days when south americans still had a fighting spirit. Nowadays our borders are probably the most boring and dull in world, nothing ever happens anymore. I wanna see young men dying in pointless wars.
>>216269738Here are Bolivar's own conclusions in a letter near the end of his life (dated 1830):>You know well that I have held command for twenty years, and from them I have reaped but few certain results.>1°. [South] America is ungovernable for us.>2°. He who serves a revolution ploughs the sea.>3°. The only thing that may be done in America is to depart from it.>4°. This country shall infallibly fall into the hands of an unbridled multitude, thereafter to pass beneath the sway of petty tyrants, scarcely perceptible, of every hue and race.>5°. Consumed by every crime and extinguished by ferocity, we shall not even deem ourselves worthy of conquest by the Europeans.>6°. Were it possible that any portion of the globe should return unto its primitive chaos, that would be the final stage of [South] America.
>>216270003Damn bro was right on the money :skull:
washington>san martin>bolivar
>>216270003There is something demonic about the Western hemisphere. It's like a place where the worst excesses of animalistic human brutality are expressed daily and nobody cares. It's sad because it has the best nature in the world. Wonders like the mountain range spanning two continents from Alaska to Chile, or the world's biggest and most powerful river feeding its densest rainforests. So much misery in such a beautiful place.
>>216270383dude, you were putting each other in gas chambers 80 years ago, and genociding each other in the balkans 30 years ago, wtf you are talking about?
>>216270003Bolivar, like San Martín, Belgrano or Miranda were wrong about the enlightening. It couldn't work on South America, like it couldn't work on Spain, too many traditions in class and culture, toi catholic, too subjugated by the caudillo system and links of clientelism, pic related Juan Manuel de Rosas was right, the only way to unite the region was through strong men, catholicism, tradition and federalism. There was no need to reinvent the wheel, the things that kept the viceroyalties together worked just fine
>>216270003How will LatinX ever recover?
>>216270873And they're killing each other in eastern europe right now. Euros sure do love to throw stones while living in glass houses.
>>216267310>I want to unite South America!!!>Not that way!!!Bolivar and San Martin were useful idiots who indebted their countries for power and never cared about anything but themselves. Enjoy.
>>216270873people are being killed in Brazil as we speak. Is the government doing anything about it?>>216271538>And they're killing each other in eastern europe right now.We aren't killing each other. It's Ukrainians and Russians who are killing each other.
>Bolívar was so shit at his government that out of the two countries that attended his congress, none signed in.>>216267440>>216267488He also claimed the Miskito coast was his. The audacity.>>216270153>>216271163Where is my Philosopher King Sapa Inca???
>>216272368you're from fucking bulgariado you think americans envy you just because their blacks are killing each other in the hoods? it's almost the same for us and our favelas
>>216272368balkan nigger from irrelevant balkan nigger country criticizes other countries that are not in the balkan nigger death spiral.
>>216270003>7. Billions Must DieDamn I didn't know he was the original Chud
>>216272618>you're from fucking bulgariayeah, it's cozy>>216272695>balkan nigger from irrelevant balkan nigger country criticizes other countries that are not in the balkan nigger death spiral.I am not criticizing anyone, just sharing a thought. I am not saying Bulgaria is perfect.>oh no all the gypsies and turks left for GermanyYeah, thanks to that we have one of the cheapest real estate markets in the EU. It's a buyer's paradise but zoomers would rather sit in London or Amsterdam and complain. Picrel.
>>216267488if we go with >ehm akshuallythen we have to reduce more the map because they never controlled that much of the amazon, it was full of uncontated tribesessequibo was on paper the border so the map is rightanglos got it because the closest spanish city was tucupita while georgetown was right next to the river, alowing them to populate the area, venezuela only cared when anglos started to claim the whole cuyuni bassin when they found gold
>>216267310Why and how did Colombians lose all that?
