>Americans hate the U.N.>Americans are unaware THEY CREATED the U.N. to, unironically, create a new world order post-WWIII just don't understand how Americans don't know THEY CREATED the U.N., it was literally FDR's plan during WWII, and Americans love learning about WWII. If the U.N. is evil, America has to pay reparations for the suffering the world has endured with the U.N. existing.
>>216319310Of we're cool just passing the buck like this, England created America, so they have to pay reparations for everything America has done. I like your logic, OP. Very faggy.
>>216319310the same people who complain about the un are the same people who hate fdr retard i despise both
>>216319332>The "Four Policemen" was a postwar council with the Big Four that U.S. president Franklin D. Roosevelt proposed as a guarantor of world peace. Their members were called the Four Powers during World War II and were the four major Allies of World War II>countries other than the Four Policemen were to be disarmed. Only the Four Policemen would be allowed to possess any weapons more powerful than a rifle.>As a compromise with internationalist critics, the Big Four nations became the permanent members of the UN Security Council
The UN was not created by actual Americans. It was created by literal communist agents in the state department.
>>216319388I doubt that average American patriot, who hates the U.N., hates FDR.
>>216319408do you realize how much of a leftist fdr wasbesides maybe Reagan he's shaped the modern american government more than about anybodyall the harebrained spending and expansion of government often can be traced back to him
>>216319310FDR was a huge faggot cripple and a tyrant
>>216319394I can accept you consider FDR a commie but, then:You're telling me that the country created with policies to prevent tyranny (such as the right to bear arms), came under communist tyranny anyway and no American citizen started a rebellion against it?Doesn't this suggest America, itself, doesn't work as intended?
>>216319430I'm aware. I said that average American patriot is unaware. Is that incorrect?
>>216319408I'm an average american patriot who hates both the UN and FDR for laying the groundwork for policies which turned our capitalist nation into a corporatist nation with such high regulatory barriers to entry in the market that only wealthy individuals could start competitive businesses. Now kindly get the magnets out of your shoes and fall into space, südländer.
>>216319437>Doesn't this suggest America, itself, doesn't work as intended?yeah no shit dsa is taking over the demonrat party and mamdani is about to become mayor in the most important city in the country
>>216319450since leftoids practically worship him and all muricans have to take a us history class in high school and he's one of the most important president and think most half way educated people know what he was up to
>>216319452Your idea of 'average' is set a bit high, then.I'd be willing to bet that only one in one hundred Americans have ever heard of the 'four policemen'.
>>216319310We're crybabies who've become too used to having it good.We need to be humbled. And I think that'll come here in the next generation or two.
>>216319452>Capitalist nation turned into corporatist nationBrother that was already the case. FDR if anything helped avoid it getting worse. Same with Teddy.Hell it was worse when Teddy was in charge. You had corporations hiring gangs to gun down striking workers. There's a reason he finally used the anti-trust laws.Learn your countries history bruv.
>>216319454>Raising taxes slightly on corporations and wealthy citizens to fund safer subways is le communismThe absolute state of the average voter.
>>216319581i. hate. you. so. much.
>>216319595Then argue against me faggot. What we label communism is just moderate socialism at best.Not that I'd want to go past that mind you. I want a nation where we protect workers and private competition. We do neither of those right now.
>>216319310Yanks literally can't read. The ones on 4chan are their top 25% edumacated peeps (this is not a compliment).
>>216319614you speak our language lmao
>>216319613i want to crush you. simple as. may best man win.
>>216319636Entertain having your values and feelings questioned for once you dim wit.
>>216319614It's not even a matter of intelligence. We're tribalist now. Anything that sounds like "The other side" gets dismissed by spiteful retards who don't stop to think. or learn about different perspectives than the one they're sold by grifters, news agencies, and their favorite politician.
>>216319613FDR sounds too much like GDR.
>>216319651because i dont believe you even have good faithi know full well the kinds of people you areand you know full well the kind of person this mamdani ishttps://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1983198573010522164and im not gonna respond no further but luckily for you i want to leave this godforsaken countrydont want to live in a country this elects ugandan communist shiites
>>216319561Corporations doing shady or illegal shit is not the same as government establishing unelected regulatory bodies and imposing excessive and arbitrary requirements to keep market competition at a minimum for the benefit of their corporate cronies. It's quite different in fact.
>>216319437I wasn't calling FDR a commie. I was referring to people like Harry Dexter White and Alger Hiss. The actual State Department functionaries who were involved in founding the UN and were later revealed to be communist spies.
>>216320141The 'four policemen' was FDR's idea. That being the basis for the U.N..
>>216320141>Harry Dexter White and Alger HissInteresting read though.
>>216319437I always bring this up to 2nd Amendment retards. They have been passive little obedient serf bitches since 9/11 and the PATRIOT Act too.
>>216319704You're making assumptions to save your own beliefs from being challenged. Everybody is that way these days. We're stuck in bubbles instead of hearing out what others have to say and actually talking.You shutting down is just the worst thing to do when people have a conflicting opinion.
>>216320283The concept of the UN isn't inherently bad. But when you have Soviet diplomats on one side of the table doing shit like insisting that all the subordinate SSRs like Ukraine and Belarus are totes independent nations that deserve their own representatives and votes in important UN committees, and the literal communist stooges representing the US on the other side of the table just say 'durr, sounds fair to me, comrade', what kind of organization can you expect?
>>216319394can you tell us more? why did they create the UN? what part of their belief in communism affected the way they created it?
>>216320439>The concept of the UN isn't inherently bad.Bruh.>But when you have Soviet diplomats on one side of the tableFDR chose the security council members, besides France.See: (>>216319392)
>>216320141Just remove the parts of the UN influenced/created by those two and strip it down to the core concept that FDR created?
>>216320439The reason that was done was to maintain the idea they clung to of what the states pre-war were. And in hopes that one day those states would be their own entities.And boy looks like what they wanted turned out to happen. Whether that was due to that or not is another matter.
>>216320402The last time America used its right to bear arms, to resist tyranny, was the American civil war, which just proved that federal government CAN squash rebellion.So, unironically, the South were the true Americans. The North was a country no different to any other country a la Britain, France et cetera.
>>216320479>the core concept that FDR createdFDR, unironically, wanted to create a New World Order. A literal police-state (planetary-scale). 'The Four Policemen would be responsible for keeping order within their spheres of influence: Britain in its empire and Western Europe, the Soviet Union in Eastern Europe and the central Eurasian landmass, China in East Asia and the Western Pacific'.'countries other than the Four Policemen were to be disarmed. Only the Four Policemen would be allowed to possess any weapons more powerful than a rifle'
>>216320479>>216320594Forgot my pic.
>>216320594the more i read about mid 20th century history, the more i think that us fighting against the germans in world war two was our greatest mistake
>>216320539>The last time America used its right to bear arms, to resist tyranny, was the American civil war, which just proved that federal government CAN squash rebellion.Was it, though?
>>216320653Pretty cool but considering the federal government reversed that, at gunpoint, my main point stands (that federal government will squash it and enforce its power, which goes against the main purpose of the existence of the United States).Pic is of 101st airborne pointing guns at high school students, who refused to go to school with blacks.
>>216320795american school students... WALKING to school???? aaaaaaaaaaaaaa i'm going insane!!!!!!!!!!!
>>216320614Naturally.Heck, if it weren't for the U.S., Japan wouldn't have gone south (in search for oil) and mainly kept attacking China, since that was their main objective.
>>216320874i rode my bike to school in elementary and high schoolpretty normal you know
>>216319310sydus arts is a certified GEM
>>216319437Under the terms of the US-Japan Security Treaty, American troops are stationed within Japan. Nobody calls this an American invasion of Japan. That is because it is based on a treaty agreed upon between two nations.Our country is said to have invaded the Chinese mainland and the Korean peninsula in the prewar period, but surprisingly few people are aware that the Japanese army was also stationed in these countries on the basis of treaties. The advance of the Japanese army onto the Korean peninsula and Chinese mainland from the latter half of the 19th century on was not a unilateral advance without the understanding of those nations. The current Chinese government obstinately insists that there was a “Japanese invasion,” but Japan obtained its interests in the Chinese mainland legally under international law through the Sino-Japanese War, the Russo-Japanese War, and so on, and it placed its troops there based on treaties in order to protect those interests.There are those who say that Japan applied pressure and forced the Chinese to sign the treaty, thus invalidating it, but back then – and even now – there were no treaties signed without some amount of pressure.The Japanese army was subjected to frequent acts of terrorism by Chiang Kai-shek’s Kuomintang (KMT). Large-scale attacks on and murders of Japanese citizens occurred many times. This would be like the Japanese Self-Defense Forces attacking the US troops stationed at the Yokota or Yokosuka military bases, committing acts of violence and murder against the American soldiers and their families – it would be unforgivable. Despite that, the Japanese government patiently tried to bring about peace, but at every turn they were betrayed by Chiang Kai-shek.
>>216319437In fact, Chiang Kai-shek was being manipulated by Comintern. As a result of the Second United Front of 1936, large numbers of guerillas from the Communist Party of Comintern puppet Mao Zedong infiltrated the KMT. The objective of Comintern was to pit the Japanese army and the KMT against each other to exhaust them both and, in the end, to have Mao Zedong’s Communist Party control mainland China. Finally, our country could no longer put up with the repeated provocations of the KMT, and on August 15, 1937, the Konoe Fumimaro Cabinet declared that “now we must take determined measures to punish the violent and unreasonable actions of the Chinese army and encourage the Nanking Government to reconsider.” Our country was a victim, drawn into the Sino-Japanese War by Chiang Kai-shek.The bombing of Zhang Zuolin’s train in 1928 was for a long time said to have been the work of the Kwantung Army, but in recent years, Soviet intelligence documents have been discovered that at the very least cast doubt on the Kwantung Army’s role. According to such books as Mao: The Mao Zedong Nobody Knew by Jung Chang (Kodansha) 「マオ(誰も知らなかった毛沢東)(ユン・チアン、講談社)」, Ko Bunyu Looks Positively at the Greater East Asian War by Ko Bunyu (WAC Co.) 「黄文雄の大東亜戦争肯定論(黄文雄、ワック出版)」, and Refine Your Historical Power, Japan edited by Sakurai Yoshiko (Bungei Shunju) 「日本よ、「歴史力」を磨け(櫻井よしこ編、文藝春秋)」, the theory that it was actually the work of Comintern has gained a great deal of prominence recently.
>>216319437Similarly, the Marco Polo Bridge Incident on July 7, 1937, immediately prior to the start of the Sino-Japanese War, had been considered as a kind of proof of Japan’s invasion of China. However, we now know that during the Tokyo War Trials, Liu Shaoqi of the Chinese Communist Party told Western reporters at a press conference, “The instigator of the Marco Polo Bridge Incident was the Chinese Communist Party, and the officer in charge was me.”If you say that Japan was the aggressor nation, then I would like to ask what country among the great powers of that time was not an aggressor. That is not to say that because other countries were doing so it was all right for Japan to do so well, but rather that there is no reason to single out Japan as an aggressor nation. Japan tried to develop Manchuria, the Korean Peninsula, and Taiwan in the same way it was developing the Japanese mainland. Among the major powers at that time, Japan was the only nation that tried to incorporate its colonies within the nation itself. In comparison to other countries, Japan’s colonial rule was very moderate. When Imperial Manchuria was established in January 1932, the population was thirty million. That population increased each year by more than 1 million people, reaching fifty million by the end of the war in 1945.
>>216319437The Japanese government also permitted the enrollment of Chinese and Japanese citizens into the Imperial Japanese Army Academy. At the Manila military tribunal following the war, there was a lieutenant general in the Japanese army named Hong Sa-ik, a native Korean who was sentenced to death. Hong graduated in the 26th class at the Army Academy, where he was a classmate of Lt. General Kuribayashi Tadamichi, who gained fame at Iwo Jima.Hong was a person who rose to lieutenant general in the Imperial Japanese Army while retaining his Korean name. One class behind him at the academy was Col. Kim Suk-won, who served as a major in China at the time of the Sino-Japanese War. Leading a force of roughly 1,000 Japanese troops, he trampled the army from China, the former suzerain state that had been bullying Korea for hundreds of years. He was decorated by the emperor for his meritorious war service. Of course, he did not change his name. In China, Chiang Kai-shek also graduated from the Imperial Japanese Army Academy and received training while attached to a regiment in Takada, in Niigata.
>>216319437One year below Kim Suk-won at the academy was the man who would be Chiang’s staff officer, He Yingqin. The last crown prince of the Yi dynasty, Crown Prince Yi Eun also attended the Army Academy, graduating in the 29th class. Crown Prince Yi Eun was brought to Japan as a sort of hostage at the age of ten. However, the Japanese government treated him respectfully as a member of the royal family, and after receiving his education at Gakushuin, he graduated from the Imperial Japanese Army Academy. In the army, he was promoted and served as a lieutenant general. Crown Prince Yi Eun was married to Japan’s Princess Nashimotonomiya Masako. She was a woman of nobility who previously had been considered as a potential bride for the Showa Emperor. If the Japanese government had intended to smash the Yi dynasty, they surely would not have permitted the marriage of a woman of this stature to Crown Prince Yi Eun.Incidentally, in 1930, the Imperial Household Agency built a new residence for the couple. It is now the Akasaka Prince Hotel Annex. Also, Prince Pujie, the younger brother of Puyi – the last emperor of the Qing Dynasty, who was also the emperor of Manchuria – was married to Lady Saga Hiro of the noble Saga house.When you compare this with the countries that were considered to be major powers at the time, you realize that Japan’s posture toward Manchuria, Korea, and Taiwan was completely different from the colonial rule of the major powers. England occupied India, but it did not provide education for the Indian people. Indians were not permitted to attend the British military academy. Of course, they would never have considered a marriage between a member of the British royal family and an Indian. This holds true for Holland, France, America, and other countries as well.
>>216319437By contrast, from before the start of World War II, Japan had been calling for harmony between the five tribes, laying out a vision for the tribes – the Yamato (Japanese), Koreans, Chinese, Manchurians, and Mongols – to intermix and live peacefully together. At a time when racial discrimination was considered natural, this was a groundbreaking proposal. At the Paris Peace Conference at the end of World War I, when Japan urged that the abolition of racial discrimination be included in the treaty, England and America laughed it off. But if you look at the world today, it has become the kind of world that Japan was urging at the time. Going back in time to 1901, in the aftermath of the Boxer Rebellion, the Qing Empire signed the Boxer Protocol in 1901 with eleven countries including Japan. As a result, our country gained the right to station troops in Qing China, and began by dispatching 2,600 troops there.Also, in 1915, following four months of negotiations with the government of Yuan Shikai, and incorporating China’s points as well, agreement was reached on Japan’s so-called 21 Demands toward China. Some people say that this was the start of Japan’s invasion of China, but if you compare these demands to the general international norms of colonial administration by the great powers at the time, there was nothing terribly unusual about it. China too accepted the demands at one point and ratified them.However, four years later, in 1919, when China was allowed to attend the Paris Peace Conference, it began complaining about the 21 Demands with America’s backing. Even then, England and France supported Japan’s position. Moreover, Japan never advanced its army without the agreement of Chiang Kai-shek’s KMT.
>>216319310When the UN was good for the Americans, the Americans supported it. When it's not good anymore, Americans stop supporting it. They can do whatever they want because they have the largest military in the world.
>>216319437The Japanese army in Beijing, which was stationed there from 1901, still comprised just 5,600 troops at the time of the Marco Polo Bridge Incident thirty-six years later. At that time, tens of thousands of KMT troops were spread out in the area surrounding Beijing, and even in terms of appearances it was a far cry from being an invasion. As symbolized by Foreign Minister Shidehara Kijuro, our country’s basic policy at the time was one of reconciliation with China, and that has not changed even today.There are some who say that it was because Japan invaded the Chinese mainland and the Korean Peninsula that it ended up entering the war with the United States, where it lost three million people and met with defeat; it committed an irrevocable error. However, it has also been confirmed now that Japan was ensnared in a trap that was very carefully laid by the United States in order to draw Japan into a war.In fact, America was also being manipulated by Comintern. There are official documents called the Venona Files, which are available on the National Security Agency (NSA) website. It is a massive set of documents, but in the May 2006 edition of “Monthly Just Arguments” 「月刊正論」, (then) Assistant Professor Fukui of Aoyama Gakuin University offered a summary introduction.The Venona Files are a collection of transmissions between Comintern and agents in the United States, which the United States was monitoring for eight years, from 1940 to 1948. At the time, the Soviets were changing their codes after each message, so the United States could not decipher them. From 1943, right in the middle of the war with Japan, the United States began its decryption work. Surprisingly, it took thirty-seven years to finish the work; it was completed just before the start of the Reagan administration in 1980. However, since it was the middle of the Cold War, the Americans kept these documents classified.
>>216319437In 1995, following the end of the Cold War, they were declassified and made open to the public. According to those files, there were three hundred Comintern spies working in the administration of Franklin D. Roosevelt, who took office in 1933. Among them, one who rose to the top was the number two official at the Treasury, Assistant Secretary Harry White. Harry White is said to have been the perpetrator who wrote the Hull note, America’s final notice to Japan before the war began. Through President Roosevelt’s good friend, Treasury Secretary Morgenthau, he was able to manipulate President Roosevelt and draw our country into a war with the United States.At the time, Roosevelt was not aware of the terrible nature of communism. Through Harry White, he was on the receiving end of Comintern’s maneuvering, and he was covertly offering strong support to Chiang Kai-shek, who was battling Japan at the time, sending the Flying Tigers squadron comprised of one hundred fighter planes. Starting one and a half months prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor, the United States began covert air attacks against Japan on the Chinese mainland. Roosevelt had become president on his public pledge not to go to war, so in order to start a war between the United States and Japan it had to appear that Japan took the first shot. Japan was caught in Roosevelt’s trap and carried out the attack on Pearl Harbor.Could the war have been avoided? If Japan had accepted the conditions lain out by the United States in the Hull note, perhaps the war could have been temporarily avoided. But even if the war had been avoided temporarily, when you consider the survival of the fittest mentality that dominated international relations at the time, you can easily imagine that the United States would have issued a second and a third set of demands. As a result, those of us living today could very well have been living in a Japan that was a white nation’s colony.
>>216319437>>216320448>>216321130It is said that Soviet comintern spies (CPUSA) were behind anti-fascism propaganda, and demonization of the Axis.Their propaganda achieved formidable success, to the level where the US and Soviet ganged up to crush the Axis.Kaname Wakasugi, Consul General in New York, submitted a confidential report to Foreign Ministry on July 20, 1938 as follows:1. Since the Sino-Japanese War, American newspapers have sensationally reported on the damage situation of China in a way that "China struggling to defend democracy against Japanese invasion".2. The Roosevelt administration and Congress are so sensitive to public opinion. They tend to become anti-Japanese influenced by such reports.3. Chiang Kai-shek and his wife Soong Mei-ling are the most popular in America. Their words and actions have always been in the spotlight because the American public thinks they are "an advocate of democracy and Christianity."4. On the other hand, Japan is regarded as a fascist dictatorship like Nazi Germany because of the German-Japanese Anti-Comintern Pact.5. Under these circumstances, there are 3 types of propaganda organizations: Chinese diaspora, CPUSA (Communist Party USA), and religious and humanitarian organizations. The "defending anti-fascism and democracy" advocated by CPUSA has become the guiding principle for these organizations.6. CPUSA ostensibly claims "advocacy of democracy", striving to unite anti-fascist forces, and their anti-Japanese propaganda has achieved formidable success.7. CPUSA's real aim is not to defend democracy, but to make the Sino-Japanese War protracted, worsening Japan-U.S. relations, thereby preventing Japan from exerting military pressure on the Soviet Union.https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%8B%A5%E6%9D%89%E8%A6%81
>>216319635kek always gets me
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