Do eastern europeans actually dislike commieblocks or is it just westoids talking shit? >affordable housing for workers/families in walkable neighbourhoods with communal facilitiesis any of that supposed to be a bad thing?
>>216324490>walkable neighbourhoodsMicrodistricts are only "walkable" in the sense that you can walk your child to the attached playground where gopniks and junkies hang out. Going anywhere outside the microdistrict requires a vehicle.>affordable housingYeah, that's why it has been commonplace for a family of 8 to be stuffed inside 30 m^2.>with communal facilitiesYou're confusing communalkas (which are even worse) with kruschevkas. The latter has no communal facilities. You have to be extremely desperate to live in a communalka.You also forgot to mention>American style thin walls so you can hear your neighbors like they're right by you>American style HOA type thing where some babushka can complain about you not participating in da cahmineteh>central heating that switches on and off at set dates and cannot be regulated (in-series pipes are cheaper)
>>216324490Depends We have old neighbourhoods with commieblocks that aren't that bad (mostly the city centre)But also the districts that don't have anything besides commieblocks and I feel a some kind a primitive horror in them because they all look the same and dystopian.
>>216324649Half of these are either exagerations or just not true.
>>216324649These. if Commies were actually made normal housing people would like them.
>>216324680>gopniksonly in Russia>60-80 m2, but it's still smallshould be double>thin wallstrue>HOA rulesmeme>central heating fact check: false. Heating is turned on by the building's janitor. Most flats are modernized and you can turn the heating down.
>>216324490They can be alright. The problems really appear when they are not maintained and from the fact that they are car-centric development.These are both fixable, but it's not always easy. Especially when it comes to getting rid of the cars.
>>216324765Maybe it's different in Hungary, but the standard for a 2-room apartment in a Soviet khruschevka is 30–48 m^2. Easily googlable.>>HOA rules>memebecause it's not the Soviet Union anymore and shit's been privatized. Back in the day you had to participate in these communal meetings with Karens accusing you of being a dissident if you don't do as they say.>Heating is turned on by the building's janitor.Not true in the former USSR. It's still central.>Most flats are modernizedAgain, this is the consequence of capitalism, not the original centrally-planned design.
>>216324490I don't think we dislike them.
>>216324649>>216324847ok so you'd rather live here then? surrounded by anglo golems who report you to the CIA for not mowing your lawn properly?
>>216324897>hehe you don't want to eat shit, so you'd rather drink piss
>>216324649>Going anywhere outside the microdistrict requires a vehicle.Public transport is well developed.>Microdistricts are only "walkable" in the sense that you can walk your child to the attached playground where gopniks and junkies hang out.There are hospitals, polyclinics, schools, kindergartens and shops all within a microdistrict. >Yeah, that's why it has been commonplace for a family of 8 to be stuffed inside 30 m^2.In later times of Soviet times families acquired apartments more easily. My grandparents got a 4-room 100+ sq meters apartment. And they've had 2 kids.>central heatingIs great btw.
>>216324897That doesn't look nearly as bad as some people here make it sound, in fact it looks nice. You would have to be deranged to think living in a commieblock is somehow preferable
>>216324490>affordablebuying a 30 m2 dilapitated flat in moscow/spb is the equivalent of an australian buying a huge mansion near sydney
>>216324922It's almost as if the "Australian" poster had some hidden agenda behind his thread
>>216324897Surely some middle ground would be reasonable
>>216324897The main issue with that is that the backyards look tiny but a house with a backyard (that's not too far from everything) is way nicer than an apartment. I stayed overseas (Europe) for a few months in the middle of the city in an apartment and I longed for a house with a backyard and some privacy, even if it meant being farther away from the centre.
