Some people claim Vikings were uncultured snownigger savages but they founded and ruled a lot of kingdoms, duchies, or political entities all across EuropeHow does that even work?Were they actually smarter and more "political" than we think?>Kievan Rus' – Russia, Ukraine, Belarus>Duchy of Normandy – France>Kingdom of Sicily>Icelandic Commonwealth – Iceland>Kingdom of York (Jórvík) – England>Kingdom of Dublin – Ireland>Kingdom of Man and the Isles – Isle of Man & Hebrides>Kingdom of the Isles – Scotland>Novgorod – Russia>Danelaw – England>Principality of Polotsk – Belarus
>>216360490They had access to trade networks and mercenaries that others didn't. The rus got where they were by being able to hold a trade lane open from Greece all the way to the Neatherlands for example. So barons made them into lords in many cases. The vikings were also much like the mongols in the way that they didn't give a shit about preserving a nordic identity or religion or anything. Converting to whatever local sect there was made it easier to make money and that's all that they cared about.
>>216360490We were vikings, we did trade. We got silver from the Byzantine Empire, built swords, etc. It was the call of duty.
>>216360776Why aren't you still called chuds then?
>>216360490barbarian nomads have always founded kingdoms among settled populations you stupid white worshiping monkey
>>216360490>>Kingdom of SicilyNot Viking>>Danelaw – EnglandNot an actual state, but rather more like a state of affairs which the English used to describe non-English (Wessex) controlled England. The king in York and the five boroughs were all part of the Danelaw but they were not politically united. Edward the Elder was able to batter the boroughs into submission and conquer them without any outside intervention by other Vikings in England.
>>216360490>Vikings were uncultured snownigger savagesthe only people who wrote books back then were christniggers who deemed every non christian uncultured barbariansalso, you don't need to be particularly cultured or smart to found a feudal kingdom. It came down to rule of the strongest.And it's disengenuous to chalk the conquest of sicily or the norman conquest of england up to the vikings in this context. They were christian, well integrated into the frankish feudal and genetically more french than norse at that point.
>>216360490>Mexican norsebooI beg you - go outside.Go outside, enjoy the sunshine. Enjoy some local street tacos and Mexican beer. Flirt up some fat ass latinas. Go listen to some mariachi or maybe go dance to some reaggeton. No reason for you to sit on 4chan being obsessed with vikings
>>216360956kek. well put. I never understand brown whiteaboos
Kingdom of Sicily was led by big black bvlls. Sicilians are black, explaining why so many northern european women go there to get blacked by their bvlls, the Jamaica of the mediterranean
>>216360956good post
>>216360872Why did my thread make you seethe so much?
>>216360956I'm not a norseboo
>>216360956Unlike the myriad of quality threads that he could be posting in right now?
>>216361015You think a Mexican woke up at 7:50 am and instantly started posting about european history in a bizarre fashion meaning he clearly was using ai to try to learn is that what you think is going on my "white French friend"Yes .. Mexicans love getting up early....and posting about europe... On Halloween... Because.... Mexican..?
You brown shits are just fucking retards pissing on each other. Jesus fucking christ what happened to this website. It's like a special ed bus full of compulsive liars who smell like shit
Vikings are like Mike Tyson. Overhyped by the masses resulting in arm chair historians understating them
>>216361250People here are weird Interacting with retards every single day gotta be detrimental to the mind
>>216360490There were several viking settlement in Galicia and Asturias. It is very little studied but some chronicles told about it.Areas like "Lordemanos" and "Cudillero" had viking settlements. The thing is that it is difficult to prove since most people were illiterate and could not write it down.
>>216361948>>216361948>The thing is that it is difficult to prove since most people were illiterate and could not write it down.so wat proof is there then?
>>2163620421. “Lordemanos” and ToponymyThe name lordemano (from the medieval Latin lordomanni, “men of the north”) appears in some areas of the northwestern Iberian Peninsula, and there are places whose names seem to preserve that memory.For example:Aldea de Lordemanos (Lugo) – recorded in some old documents.In Asturias, there are similar or derived toponyms (Lourdemano, Lordemán, Lordemá, etc.), although they sometimes evolved and merged with local Romance names.These names usually appear near the coast or navigable estuaries, which matches the routes of Viking incursions. 2. Cudillero and Possible Nordic ConnectionsCudillero (Asturias) has been suggested by some authors (especially 19th-century romantics and local ethnographers) as a possible settlement or refuge of Nordic sailors.It has been proposed that its fishing population and certain cultural features (types of boats, physical traits, even words in the local dialect) might reflect an ancient Viking or Nordic influence.However, there is no solid archaeological evidence to confirm this. Most modern historians consider these theories more legendary than proven. 3. Possible Historical or Cultural TracesAlthough no proper Viking settlements have been found, there are traces that could suggest contact:Isolated finds of Nordic weapons and coins in Galicia and along the Cantabrian coast.Oral traditions and local festivals, such as the Romería Vikinga de Catoira (Pontevedra), inspired by the attacks along the Ulla River.Ancient surnames or place names that might derive from Nordic foreigners who stayed after the raids (though this is linguistically hard to prove).
>>216362042And there is also a scientifc research that counts more than 100 viking incursions, especially in Galicia. Viking Raids in the Iberian Peninsula 1. First Incursions (9th Century)The first Viking expeditions into the territory of what is now Spain and Portugal took place around the year 844.They came from the north (probably from Norway or Denmark) and traveled along the Atlantic, raiding the coasts of Galicia, Asturias, and Portugal. 2. The Attack on Seville (844)The most famous episode was the attack on Seville (then part of al-Andalus) in 844.The Vikings (called madjus or lordemanos in Arab and Christian chronicles) sailed up the Guadalquivir River and sacked Seville, causing widespread destruction.They were eventually defeated by the troops of Emir Abd al-Rahman II, who strengthened the coastal defenses after the attack.Some captured Vikings were executed, while others converted to Islam and settled temporarily in the region as mercenaries. 3. Galicia, Asturias, and the NorthChristian chronicles also mention attacks along the Galician coast and at A Coruña (Farum Brigantium).In 859, another Viking fleet attacked Galicia and the Portuguese coast, even reaching the Mediterranean.They passed through the Strait of Gibraltar, attacked Algeciras, and went as far as the south of France and even the Balearic Islands. 4. Settlements or Temporary BasesThere is no archaeological evidence of permanent Viking settlements in Spain.However, there were seasonal or temporary bases used to repair ships and gather supplies, especially in:The Galician rías (possibly in Arousa or Muros).The mouth of the Ulla River (Padrón or Catoira).In fact, Catoira still celebrates the Viking Pilgrimage Festival (Romería Vikinga) today, commemorating those raids.Some historians believe that small groups may have stayed and interacted with the local population, but they did not establish formal colonies.
>>216362193so no actual proof? thanks chatgpt
>>216362335Ok, you are a retard that you are making people lost their time. Nice from you.
>>216360490"Raids" nigga they literally just visited nekor (the kingdom that was subsequent to ummayads in northernmost morocco) and noped the fuck out iirc there's no archeological evidence only telltales of the ships sailing then moving away
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>>216362393show some actual proof lol. Hard mode: write it yourself instead of asking chatgpt
This turd was found in York, a city founded by the Romans and the very colony in which Constantine the Great was first proclaimed Emperor. The turd itself dates to the 9th century, the Viking Age of 'Jorvik', and thus represents - in physical form - the Nordic race shitting on the ruins of Med civilisation
>>216360490All the smartest and most ambitious norsemen....left. Ponder that for a moment.
>>216360490>Vikings were uncultured snownigger savagesBecause despite finding America way before the Spanish they managed to do fuck all but abandon it, Normans themselves don’t claim to be vikings so making the kingdom of sicilly viking is even dumber.
>>216362625>Normans themselves don’t claim to be vikings so making the kingdom of sicilly viking is even dumberHenry of Huntingdon, writing in the 12th century, references William the Conqueror making reference to his 'Norwegian and Danish ancestors' at Hastings
>>216362042scandinavian iron, silver and viking artifacts found in 6-9th century villages si its either trade routes or viking settlements hard to tell
>>216362488>>216362757There are no known archaeological sites of the Scandinavian type in Russia, which is one of the compelling reasons why many of our scholars believe that the Scandinavians were simply elite mercenaries with no real political power. Alternatively, the Rus' people themselves were not of Scandinavian origin.
>>216362625Even so, interestingly, when Sigurd the Crusader stopped by Palermo in 1108 he and his army were welcomed as "kinsmen", Roger II even held like a week long feast for him
>>216361948>>216362042There's the case of Póvoa do Varzim, where they still use viking runeshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siglas_poveiras
>>216360490Ruś was uncultured before Christianity
How complete the boat's forecastle.Then the ancient Wainamoinen, Wise and wonderful enchanter, Heavy-hearted spake as follows : " Woe is me, my life hard-fated I Never will this magic vessel Pass in safety o'er the water, Never ride the rough sea-billows."Then he thought and long considered, Where to find these words of magic, Find the lost- words of the Master : " From the brains of countless swallows, From the heads of sw;ans in dying, From the plumage of the sea-duck ? "For these words the hero searches. Kills of swans a goodly number. Kills a flock of fattened sea-ducks, Kills of swallows countless numbers
>>216360490Viking is just a job description / verb.And you are right that they were very political, in fact the entire purpose of going on a viking was to amass wealth and power to further your political career at home. Gather some lads, go raid/trade, become rich, hire some warriors, come back home, challenge local chieftain, fight and win, become new chieftain. Gather more lads, go raid/trade.......
>>216362791that makes sense. runestones are mainly found in scandinavia. most of them serve as a memorial to family members or trading partners, with the subject matter of the inscriptions often being about their trade expeditions either to the east or west. there is only one stone that is geographically close to russia, at the mouth of the dnieper. most of the scandinavian travelers seemed to have returned home is what im saying.
>>216367332That's Stasyan. He makes up stuff for some reason. We have a few layers of settlement in Aldeigjuborg.
