>Went to Anatolia during the summer>Tour guide be like>Here you can see the Hettite ruins>Here the Hellenistic Kingdom's ruins>Here the Roman bridge>There is the ruins of the Byzantine Church>And this is the National Library built by our founder in 1934>and this is the Erdogan Mosque built last yearWhy didn't Ottomans develop Anatolia?
>>216382731The Ottomans didn’t give two shits about their supposed “empire” which in reality was a bunch of eyalets extracting local wealth and giving it to the Osmanoglu family, which was too busy fucking all the 9000 women in the royal harem.
>>216382731Depends on where in Anatolia you were. If you go to north-western Turkey you’ll see more Ottoman buildings especially in Bursa. The corelands of the Ottoman empire were basically everything between Edirne and Bursa.
>>216382782It was in the East
>>216382778That’s some early republican propaganda anon. The Ottomans did invest a lot in the area I mentioned before and in the balkans too. You’ll see that especially if you go to Bosnia for example.
It depends on which region you were in. The western part was already developed. But I get what you mean.
>>216382830>saaaaar it’s ataturk propagandaNo, it’s the reality.>they invested a lot in the tiny bit of land they directly controlledyeah no shit
>>216382816Yeah they did neglect that part, you’ll find more Seljuk period ruins there and in central anatolia.
>>216382842Bosnia was the outermost region for a good while and it’s filled with Ottoman period buildings. The same was the case with the rest of the balkans but the christians destroyed most things after their independence.
>>216382865Bosnia and Albania are like the two regions where Janissaries were recruited from. My point stands. Anything that didn’t directly enrich the royal family was completely ignored. That’s not to say this is automatically bad: this produced a remarkably tolerant regime for its time where the Patriarch of Constantinople just did his thing in the capital of the caliphate and Jerusalem went from autistic crusader-on-saracen bloodbaths to the equivalent of the coexist sticker.
>>216382921Actually janissaries were taken from the whole balkans. Besides you can find even Ottoman buildings in Hungary despite them ruling there for only a century or so. I’ll admit that they neglected most of Anatolia but it’s wrong to say they didn’t do anything in north-western anatolia, thrace and the balkans.
>>216382731i dont think there is a place that fits in your descriptionthe legacy left by the ottomans is more widespread than any of the others you mentioned which is also normal because they were the most recent
>>216382969Janissaries were only taken from Christians and forcefully so. That Bosnia and Albania converted while others stayed Christian should tell you everything. Well, you could make the case that Bosnia’s bogomolism heresy was also a factor, but in practice heretic movements are actually harder to convert than the mainline ones.
>roach thread>filled with dutch and German flagshmm
>>216383019I know they were taken from christians but what I’m saying is that there were many greek and bulgarian jannisaries too. Besides neither Bosnia or Albania were fully muslim, even today they are at equal numbers or one group is slightly bigger than the other.
>>216383104Bosnians today are a literal ethno-religious group. You are Bosnian if you’re Muslim, Serb if you’re Orthodox, and Croat if you’re Catholic.
>>216383144I know but there are still many serbs there. They even have autonomy.
>>216382830They built a (ome 1) stone and mortar bridge?
>>216383151Yeah, and they ain’t Bosnian.
>>216382731It was a very decentralized empire. Mostly Istanbul, Bursa and Aegean coast, host much of Ottoman architecture and development effort(Istanbul was the richest and most populous city for a good while) other areas had some kind of autonomy. You cant rule an empire from Baghdad to Budapest and from Sudan to Ukraine otherwise.
>>216383335>You cant rule an empire from Baghdad to Budapest and from Sudan to Ukraine otherwise.Sweatie…
>>216383365They outlived though thanks to eternal anglos
>>216383335If it was decentralized the regions would have developed regional centers and contain local developmentIt's clearly a sign that Istanbul collect all the wealth and don't distribute them evenly aka centralization
>>216383365>empire gathers wealth from its territories and develops its capital(white)>empire gathers wealth from its territories and develops its capital(brown)
>>216383026Euro flag = TurkTurk flag = Kurd
>>216383443learn to read kyrgyznigger
>>216383441Not even close. The ottoman empire lasted 465 years. That's less than half of ERE's history. And less than 1/4 of the whole roman epic.
>>216383453You can find a Roman bathhouse in Northern England or an amphitheater in Tripolitania. Not so similar, huh, muzzdog?
>>216382778slavized
>>216382778>ottomans>fucking women
>>216383633Their father is british. These kids have nothing to do with Ottomans.
>>216383489Why are you so rude?You said the Ottoman Empire was decentralized but then point out examples that show it was centralized around the Balkans/Western AnatoliaIf the empire had been decentralized they wouldn't be able kidnap Xtian from the Balkans and have a bureaucratic class
>>216383532Bathhouses and hole in the ground theatres are not proofs of development ranjeet, the pantheon, the great roman colliseum are, which are in rome, same as the suleymaniye mosque and famous works of minar sinan . Romans did truly develop economically frugal areas like south iberia and anatolia, to their credit, but a ranjeet wouldnt know that
>>216384214>bathhouses are not proof of development showering too spicy for mambets apparently >the Pantheon, the Colosseum ah, yes a bunch of panem et circences shit is development, but roads, aqueducts, plumbing etc etc aren’t apparently. Typical muzzie obsession with bling.
>>216384288you tell me. 1 in a 5 chance you dont wash your hands after shitting>but roads, aqueducts, plumbing sure the ottoman sultans campaigned into mesopotamia persia and the balkans without roads or means to carry water. they also washed 5 times a day to pray without plumbing
>>216384350Name one aqueduct built by the Ottomans. I am waiting.
>>216384350My dick is squeaky clean
>>216384417Italians aren’t white though.
>>216382731Only wypipo have ethnic and national ties. Everybody else when they obtain power, just see their own territories as cows to milk for clan benefits.
>>216384350They campaigned into those places using roman roads
>>216383019>Janissaries were only taken from Christianshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissary#Recruitment,_training,_and_status>In response to foreign threats, the Ottoman government chose to rapidly expand the size of the corps after the 1570s. >Membership was opened up to free-born Muslims, both recruits hand-picked by the commander of the Janissaries, as well as the sons of current members of the Ottoman standing army.[49] By the middle of the seventeenth century, the devşirme had largely been abandoned as a method of recruitment.[50]I REALLY like how everybody on this board just fucking makes shit up to make themselves look knowledgeable and prays they don't get found out. /int/ is just the slightly less inbred brother of /his/.
>>216383026Orientalism is fun, trad, cute and valid, you chud
