Fun fact: the most venerated deity in all of East Asia by far is an Indian woman, the boddhisattva Avalokitesvara. You can find as many statues of her in China/Korea/Japan as you can find statues of Virgin Mary in latinx countries.
I wish Europe was Buddhist instead of this Abrahamic nonsense
in east asia, Avalokitesvara is often portrayed as female, but this is because the bodhisattva is known for manifesting in whatever form is best for teaching in any given circumstance, and so many chinese female deities have been thought of as her manifestations over time and the bodhisattva his or herself has come to be portrayed in female form as well>To those who are to be saved by the form of a wealthy man, he teaches the Dharma by changing himself into the form of a wealthy man. To those who are to be saved by the form of a householder, he teaches the Dharma by changing himself into the form of a householder. To those who are to be saved by the form of a state official, he teaches the Dharma by changing himself into the form of a state official. To those who are to be saved by the form of a brahman, he teaches the Dharma by changing himself into the form of a brahman. To those who are to be saved by the form of a monk, nun, layman, or laywoman, he teaches the Dharma by changing himself into the form of a monk, nun, layman, or laywoman. To those who are to be saved by the form of a wife of either a wealthy man, a householder, a state official, or a brahman, he teaches the Dharma by changing himself into the form of such a wife.
IS THAT A GRAVEN IMAGE???
>>216441427>Bodhisattva>not a Buddha yet>still being worshippedIf Buddha saw how far had fallen his teachings, I think he would be a little upset.>>216441490I wish there were no religions nor philosophies, they never exist not even as a concept, and people just followed the Primordial Truth.
>>216441427Timmies try to say that India is more like the Middle East or whatever but India is Inextricably linked to the rest of Asia in many ways. Without India, a lot of what is considered "Asian culture" today wouldn't exist.
>>216442687The bodhisattva also manifests as a Buddha when necessary. As a being that resides in the pure land of Amitabha, his lifespan is effectively infinite, so there is actually no point that will come where he will die and be reborn into his final form as a Buddha, although he is irreversible from being only one rebirth away.Guanshiyin or Avalokitesvara is the ideal of what a compassionate bodhisattva should be, just as Amitabha is like the ultimate, perfectly luminous embodiment of Buddhahood. It is the ideal all followers of the mahayana should strive towards, and that is why he is worshipped.The universal compassion the bodhisattva represents is the root of all enlightenment. There can be no perfect equanimity of mind without perfect compassion equally for all things. In the Mahavoirocana Sutra, the lord Buddha Vairocana teaches that Bodhi is the cause of the Buddha's wisdom, but compassion is its root, and skillful means are its culmination.Some teachers say that there is no bodhisattva. Some say that the bodhisattva is yourself.It shouldn't be oversimplified.
>>216445231>It shouldn't be oversimplified.Yankibro, Post-Buddha Buddhism is just most overcomplicated syncretic stuff over more overcomplicated syncretic stuff.The whole point of Buddha's apostasy from Hinduism was because Hinduism was just illogical rituals, retarded superstitions and hellish-overcomplicated ("hellish" not in the abrahamic sense, but in the "it is all so tiredsome" one) divine bureaucracy.Again, if Buddha saw the actual state of Buddhism, he would not be angry, but surely disappointed.
>>216445827Buddhists usually believe the Buddha gained complete omniscience of past and future under the bodhi tree so he should have been able to forsee the future of buddhismHe didn't open his mouth to turn the wheel of the dharma without understanding the consequences
>>216442687there is no primordial truth without accepting our place as mortals below the gods. Our arrogance is what dooms us.
>>216445956I want to become a Buddhist of the original minimalistic teachings of Buddha ("In simplicity there is perfection."), not the actual hippie syncretic bumblejumbo of today (sadly the same shit happened to Taoism, if Lao-Tse saw how crazy his silly book had went, he would be disappointed too). Buddha and Lao-Tse were the literal embodiment of "do NOT make a mountain (todays' Buddhism and Taoism) out of a molehill (our teachings, observations)" and their followers missed the NOT part.>>216446348Primordial Truth is reality-check trinity: Fire, Blood and Steel. It is that simple / perfect. The rest (todays' religions, philosophies, ideologies, cosmovisions, etc.) is just mental masturbation.
>>216446552Then absolutely you should follow that path.But already you're clinging to identities ("I want to become...").You way the Buddha wouldn't have wanted any kind of expansion on the teachings, and that's fine, but I say the Buddha wouldn't have even wanted people to call themselves Buddhists, because that's falling into the trap of attachment and ideologyWesterners who dive into Eastern religions for some reason frequently have this purist mindset of "I only want the original, pure, undiluted version of the teachings" and gravitate towards schools like the theravada because they think it's more refined or something without any historical or cultural context of their own to guide them. Its very protestant.
Avalokitesvara owes me unlimited handjobs
>>216447195Mahayana is corrupted by fake and gay oogabooga nonsense though
>>216445231In Theravada, a bodhisattva is someone who makes a vow to become a Buddha and is recognized by another Buddha. Most people don't do this because it's an incredibly arduous journey that'll take many lifetimes over billions of years, whereas the journey to be an arahat is shorter. Siddhartha Gautama made this vow as Sumedha in a previous life when he met Dipankara Buddha. He had the qualities to become an arahat and attain nirvana. Instead, he chose to become a Buddha and spend aeons cultivating parami. Most people who take this vow fail because it's a commitment that must be kept for aeons.>>216442687>I think he would be a little upsetHe said that the dharma would decline after his death in stages and eventually be forgotten.
>>216448455>billions of yearsYou don't really believe that legendary bullshit do you?
>>216448539No. My mom is religious. We used to have long discussions about why everything she believed in was fake, when I was in my new age atheist phase.
>>216447195>Its very protestant.Lol this, they think all the ritual is pomp and circumstance because they don't understand that Hinduism, Buddhism, Taoism are life philosophies rather than religions in the Western sense
>>216447195>>216448685Jews have been seething in overtime about Protestants this yearIt's a weird new d&c I don't really get
>>216441427no one in india worships her because they are too obsessed with shitty festivals about bursting loud crackers in the afternoon and late nights (when babies and elderly are sleeping) and littering the entire country including the water bodies
>>216448756Jewish converts actually do pretty well with the legalistic aspect of Dharmic and Oriental religions, but they have clockwork minds as a result of their upbringing which unfortunately limits them from embracing the dharma as an esoteric conceptBetter than Protestants at least
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India, that is bharat is extremely important both historically and presently, to western world and eastern world.Our trade with rome and importance of spice trade, basically oiled the era of travel and tradeOur cultures and ideas and thoughts, our medicines, our martial arts helped countless countries and civilisations in the east.
>>216448383All things are created by mind and devoid of essential self-nature, without dichotomies. The heart sutra is frequently recited as part of mahayana liturgies even after seemingly paganistic rituals like ones for offering food to hungry ghosts to serve as a reminder of this.Part of the mahayana is understanding that actually reality itself is fake and gay nonsense and not getting caught up in any of it
>>216451472Okay but in reality what it does is proliferate pagan nonsense that distracts billions from the true dharma
>>216451082only indians think thisno one wants indians in their countries right now besides jews who want to max out on profit by hiring cheap slave labor
>>216451661It's a parajika offense to create schism in the sangha
There’s a giant Kannon(Avalokiteshvara) statue near where I live too.
>>216451874Do you live near Kyoto by any chance? I visited the Ryozen Kannon when I went two years ago
>>216451731And? That's my point, reliance on skillful means went too far and backfired, causing most people to have a skewed and incorrect view of the dharma
>>216441490>AbrahamicGood morning Saar
>>216452509there's no point in dividing further, to say this buddhism is fake and this buddhism is real, this buddhism is bad and this buddhism is goodall of it can just be as it now isin the mahayana sutras they teach not to drive people away from the lower sravaka path if they're drawn to it, even by telling them to pursue the mahayana instead, because each vehicle is an important part of the singular greater vehicle of the mahayana
>>216452651We are just talking over each other now and won't ever agree on this pointGood luck anon
