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Can we agree 1950s USA was the peak of humanity?
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>>216600302
nah
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>>216600302
it was good but 1920s and 1990s were ostensibly better
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>>216600302
for me it's 80s till early 2000s japan
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>>216600375
1910s was much better than the 1950s in terms of aesthetics, but 1950s America was a good time for anyone who was not black, Mexican, gay, a communist, an atheist, or a niggerijuana-smoker.
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>>216600302
New York 1950s or Los Angeles 1960s.
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>>216600302
The cost of making another NYC today would be worth more than every prefab city in the Gulf. The quality of steel back then was far better than today and almost every building in NYC is built with brick. Labor unions were right to oppose automation and they were cucked by OSHA massively. Look at pictures of construction workers from the 1930s in NYC and you'll see what I mean, they don't make them like that anymore insurance companies make sure of that. I hope there's a vision for this machine Babylon of the future, because the fact that NYC is most likely a once in history ordeal is beyond depressing.
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>>216600404
>What was the Lost Decade?
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>>216600452
>Look at pictures of construction workers from the 1930s in NYC and you'll see what I mean, they don't make them like that anymore insurance companies make sure of that
ah yes, let's go back to people falling to their death and dying of led poisoning because hard men
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>>216600302
dunno about that, but aside from a brief period in the 90's it was probably the most hopeful/optimistic time in recorded history
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>>216600493
Not because 'hard men' because that's what it takes to build that high without creating buildings entirely out of prefabricated parts. You can't do it with modern building standards, I don't care about the machismo element they were an entirely different breed.
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>>216600573
you'd love this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKPApAsJbj4
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>>216600573
>You can't do it with modern building standards
Get an engineer to sign off on it, and make sure everyone's following OSHA protocols. It will not be cheap, but if (a big IF in modern North America) there's minimal fucking around and middle-manning, a reasonable bid made by a reasonable firm could come in on time and on budget.
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>>216600375
explain what you think "ostensibly" means
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>>216600650
lmao done him
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>>216600650
seemingly, apparent, obvious
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>>216600302
1910s America was more sovl
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>>216600452
>The quality of steel back then was far better than today
Source?
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>>216601007
wrong, dipshit
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>>216600302
Renaissance Europe objectively takes the cake
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>>216601417
and eats it too
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>>216600302
the peak of humanity was when we understood the need to live in a society but didn't invent government yet.
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>>216601062
https://whiteknucklerbrand.com/blogs/wk-blog/early-american-steel-history-1901-1950
>Steel manufacturing had undergone significant changes with the well-known Bessemer process and open hearth furnaces. Coming onto the scene at this time was Paul Héroult's electric arc furnace, known as EAF. This kind of furnace would send an electric current through already charged metal. The result was exothermic oxidation and very high temperatures in excess of 3,000°F. While EAFs were originally specialized, by the time World War II broke out, they were being used for producing alloys. They were soon deployed across all major steel manufacturers because they were a relatively low investment solution to making lots of steel, faster.
>A big advantage of EAFs was that they could make steel from scrap and required less energy to run
EAF (electric arc furnace) produced steel relies almost entirely on scrap metal. Also between 1900 and 1950s the US used something called the open-hearth process, which is largely replaced by cheaper methods like basic oxygen steelmaking which wasn't as quality intensive. Open-hearth replaced Bessemer, but it was slower and more focused on quality, they stopped doing this process entirely by like 1990. Most likely because it was too expensive.
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>>216600302
even if you care about nigs, they saw an increase in quality of life that allowed the civil rights movement to begin with. Shit was the best time to live.



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