>>216623176
>they're unable to get love, commitment and a relationship
why would anyone want any of that?
that's actually the negative side effects of having easy access to sex (like in relationship)

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>>216623176
posting the REAL femcel phoebe experience

They just need to get a reality check. A caring boyfriend is a cuck. A real man doesn't give much shit about women's emotional problems. He provides for her and fixes stuff. If she needs a shoulder she can find herself a cuck and put him in a friendzone.

Gender-specific intimacy issues with Ghibli AI.
Wowzers.

>>216623176
They don’t exist

>>216623200
Because these are primal processes encoded in your DNA. Your conscious self can grasp no pussy as an incel isnt that big of a deal, but to your physical body and ego it means annihilation, so they suffer. A relationship means protection and security for both you and your child as a woman and the absence of that to your physical body and ego means annihilation, so they suffer.

>>216623200
because growing old alone sucks?

femcels are literally a myth

>>216623869
you will be always alone even if you have a partner
he won't cure your cancer, he won't take your pain from you, all you get is that you'll have to take care of his/her problems instead of just yours

>>216623242
True, if you were to do emotional labour for your gf you'd get instantly dumped

>>216623209
I am a fakecel, and I feel like I am become a misogycel by the day. Kazakhstan

>>216624313
this, it's womankeeping

>>216623209
It would have been funnier to pair the most misoginist with the most misandrist. That black chick is not an incel at all lol

I don't understand how a girl is unable to find a relationship and love, unless they're just really unpleasant to be around

>>216623176
>femcels do exist, but instead of not getting sex they're unable to get love, commitment and a relationship
Because they are always fucking random dudes and no one with love and commitment in mind wants to fix that dumpster fire.
You got to stop being a whore to be loved.
If your plan is to stop being a whore once someone loves you, you are fucked.

Bait post

>>216624664
Anon, are you 12? For women is just easy to find sex and one night stand. Not a real and great relationship

>>216624704
Then you shouldn't be fucking guys on the first date. You should go on dates with quiet guys who don't get too pushy about sex and instead want to just spend quality time. This isn't rocket science. Unfortunately you're just lying to yourself that sex isn't what you want

>>216624664
They want it from Chad. They want Chad to ask about their day. They want Chad to tell them they love them. They want to purchase this via sex. But since Chad gets unlimited amount of free sex, he doesn't give anything in return. It's called hypergamy. Obviously they used to get freebies from friend zoned cucks, but the blackpill movement became so strong that incels now openly hate women. Chads are still pump and dumping.

>>216624774
I'm a fatass biological man. I just stopped having this way of thinking like 10 years ago. Thanks to 4chan ann r9k i spent like years being extremely paranoid of women.

>>216624704
Men don't have a massive list of criteria for a gf, it's enough to be have a nice personality and look okay enough. There's a ton of men looking for relationships. Of course there's also a ton of men just looking for a quick bang

>>216624704
The thing is it would actually be easy for women to find a real and great relationship if they weren't completely oblivious to what that looks like and actually thought about it for a little while. They just want to shamelessly ride dick and are too retarded to know it

>>216624978
I think a lot of women get rejected without realizing it. Men's libido is such that they'll gladly have sex with a girl, even if they're not interested in a relationship with them. So they hook up, then the guy disappears and the woman wonders why everyone's such a pig. But they were just never gf material in the first place

>>216624978
>if they weren't completely oblivious to what that looks like and actually thought about it for a little while
Maybe, just maybe it's also social media fault? Ragebait and retarded shit make people believe they need to be toxic, both women/men.

>>216623176
>cels
>not celibate
not even trying. next!
>>216623869
preferable to being a cuck. if it wasn't you wouldn't be here trying to desperately justify your decision to simp for some mid whore with a triple digit body count. everybody dies alone, anyway

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>>216625111
>Ragebait and retarded shit make people believe they need to be toxic, both women/men
That's such a crazy thing. You'd think that anybody who ever spends time around other humans know what kind of people others like to be around. Nobody enjoys the company of some mentally ill grinch. But then there's a ton of those meme pick-up artist """alpha""" guys telling people that they need to be a douche to pull pussy, which might be true to some extent but those guys aren't looking for a girlfriend in the first place. And maybe that also makes women think that they need to be a bitchy girlboss as well. Meanwhile normal people are just looking for someone nice and fun to hang out with. The internet was a mistake

>>216625280
you say that but the average woman fucks drug dealers before getting walled and having to settle for some engineer in perfect physical condition and salary twice hers, and then she lives the rest of her life fondly remembering the former while resenting the latter

>>216625416
Maybe if they teach sex education better at school things like this won't happen? Teach girls the dangers of going after a piece of fucking shit? It's their choice in the end, but better be awared.

>>216625416
True, and that goes back to that part about being an antisocial douche to hook up with girls. But again nobody's looking to make a wife out of girls that go for guys like that, and those girls are crazy if they think that they'll get love and commitment from Switchblade the coke-pusher. So again I'm wondering what those "femcels" are even looking for and what they're doing wrong if they're genuinely unable to find a normal loving guy

yeah..they still dont exist because they can easily get love, commitment and relationships, but don't think normal guys are good enough, or don't make a move, or are mentally ill
"incels" can pay a prostitute to masturbate their cock with their pussy, but they won't be intimate or loving to them. which is what its really about, the love, intimate and relationship that women gatekeep from them

>>216623200
Nah you're just low IQ with low impulse control

>>216625500
>Maybe if they teach sex education better at school things like this won't happen?
Sex education is basically: being a whore makes you stronk and independent, the more you whore, more independece You get.

>>216623247
this but unironically

>>216625280
The part about looking for someone nice and fun was funny.
When a woman is young, she looks for someone masculine and confident who will dominate her. So they meet and fuck and optionally get married, then he leaves her, often with a baby and she stays a single mom.
Then she tries her luck with other men like that and realize she needs a nice, caring guy who will provide her with resources. She starts looking for some incel and works all her magic on him pretending to be just the dream of his life and his soul mate. The poor fucker swallows the bait and takes her and her child. Then she seals the deal with another child from the nice guy and the job is done. The rest of her life she sucks the resources from him while bad-mouthing him for being too weak behind his back, with other men. At least that's the way it happens here.

t. A man whose female colleague bad-mouthed her poor second husband with

>>216625785
That sounds very familiar lol. Just from observing life, it seems like women say one thing and want another thing, it's like navigating a minefield. Like when women say they want men to open up and share their feelings, it does not mean that you should say you're depressed and show weakness, it means you're supposed to get angry about some dumb shit to seem passionate or something

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>>216624664
Because they want only guys who have plenty of options, of course those guys only want to fuck them but not settle with them.

They don't even see their looksmatch as an option, thus the "nobody loves me" bullshit.

>>216627403
>want to be treated like a sex slave rather than be good to a <=8 man who treats her with respect and makes up some bullshit
I really really don't want to be a misogynist

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>>216623176
Incels think femcels don't exist because incels secretly want femcels to be something they're not. What they want is a 10/10 girl who's somehow also a shut in anime addicted virgin just like them, basically pic related. It's the "I can fix her" meme, every incel wants to be the hero who arrives to save his princess who will then fall madly in love with him and only him.
In reality femcels are 225lb mystery meat brown girls with faces covered in acne scars who smell like shit and get off to rape and bestiality porn. In other words they're women who are so ugly that even incels don't want to fuck them, so they just pretend they don't exist.

>>216627403
this is what happens when you make relationships transactional. if you have any responsibility to your partner, if your partner has any expectation of you at all, you're a "sex slave" and a "housekeeper". fucking grim.

reminder that there was a femcel reddit board that had to restrict posting to only verified users because it was flooded with guys trying to befriend the girls

>>216628100
Trvke nvke moids don’t get it

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>>216628100
when everyone wants the best, that's the end result
incels lie if they say they just want "somebody to love them" when in reality if a fucking fuggo whale offers them love, they'd be repulsed and reject her without hesitation
they just want stacy, and that's how it always was, they don't even want becky, they want the most beautiful woman and won't settle for less than a becky IF brought to the extremes

>>216628100
>225lb mystery meat brown girls with faces covered in acne scars who smell like shit and get off to rape and bestiality porn
Wow how horrible. Who could ever live with that

>>216628780
everyone wants someone they're attracted to, only when incels dont want a whale or 1/10 is it a problem
average women wanting >9/10s is perfectly fine and reasonable

>>216628975
Are those whales not allowed to identify as femcels, those who can attain shit sex but are hidden and unable to have long lasting respectful relationships?

>>216623176
>femcels do exist
Wrong femcels doesnt exist anon

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Would this be considered a true femcel?

>>216628780
I've never seen a incel do the
>what does she see in chad
thing. only medium to low SMV normalfags do this.

>>216628780
I do want an average or above girl who loves me, genuinely
Obviously I love beautiful women, but I don't even like what I imagine "stacy" is
don't think I'm an incel though, women have shown interest, I'm just really fucking shy and dont know what to do

>>216629140
most men think like this which is why all girls in the 3-7 range have 300+ bodycounts, and the top simp magnet streamers are all mid

>>216628780
I'm sure glad that young woman of color appeared at the end to deliver the incisive, biting punchline. that young fellow will thing twice before expressing his opinion again, I can tell you that.

>>216628537
Tranny

>>216629351
who had the flag first, you or austria.

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>>216624978
What's stopping Western women from randomly washing their BF's laundry and making him breakfast along with their own food when they wake up, and not acting like a whore and intentionally trying to make him jealous to point out his "insecurities"? It'd instantly put them ahead of 90% of women even if they're not particularly attractive. It's literally the classic forumla for what men want from women in every single story from ancient tales and the Bible to modern Disney movies. Mate security and less worries in his life and ready access to sex that's it.

It seems extremely easy and yet none of them are willing to bend to their gender role to put themselves ahead of every other woman in their league who won't stop acting like women with a vagina and 0 accountability. Why tf??

>>216628100
No one wants a 10/10 girl you're delusional and falling for incel copium. Men will fuck anything that walks under the age of 30~ . If you want a husband act like a wife and don't go after a man who gets 100 different women in his bed every month. You're the supposedly empathetic gender you should have this shit figured out already for fucks sake

>>216623176
>femcels
No such a thing you retards.

>>216630994
>What's stopping Western women from randomly washing their BF's laundry and making him breakfast along with their own food when they wake up,
Nigga, you want a second mother? Because i prefer killing myself before living with an overbearing do it all woman

>>216630289
this country didn't exist before 1918 so go and riddle that one out, genius

>>216629081
no, women like that always have some dude fuckin them. or rather, some dude who is kept around by the promise of occasional sex no matter how rancid

>>216631109
>if you disagree with me you’re a woman
yawn

>>216631109
You’re responding to a mentally ill man pretending to be a woman

>>216632671
forgive me, anon, I was home sick during Latvia History Day at school.

>>216623200
You are too far gone. Better luck next time.

>>216628780
this comic doesn't work because in reality the girl would say she likes his personality

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>>216623176
Sorry to break the immersion but women like this do not exist. There will never be a female incel. All self-identified femcels are turbowhores. This is stolen valor.

>>216632876
>ask retarded question
>don't even google/GPT it first
seems like your mom didn't skip the Dropping My Son On His Head As An Infant day, thoughbeit

>>216628100
>225lb mystery meat brown girls with faces covered in acne scars who smell like shit and get off to rape and bestiality porn.
these can all trivially get some nog to fuck them, and most wouldn't let an incel anywhere near

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>>216633306
>This is stolen valor.
preach, brother

>>216633306
truth

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>>216633306
you were saying?

>>216625500
That won't work, that'll just make already rebellious teens seek out what the adults tell them not to do.

>>216633306
the femcel phenomena is just another expression of typical female behavior ergo observing a male behavior mimicking it and making it abut them for thier advantage
if there was a male sub culture about committing suicide via wood chipper there would be female woodchipper cells who walk around complaining how they are wood chipper cells despite not currently being a blended pile of meat outside of a wood chipper

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>>216633560
>age 32
>single for 15 years
QED. fuck off fakecel stolen valor poser

>>216632647
I'm not saying she has to wake you up at 3AM every night from washing your ass for you, I'm saying she could try to act more "domestic" and feminine-coded than an exceptionally temperamental roomate who occasionally has sex with you. Basically making up for a lack of looks with desirable feminine behavior of which there's an extreme paucity in the West ,other than with muzzies who acquire it through domestic violence, so it's a service with very low supply but high demand which will considerably raise her SMV (her real SMV not her "pump and dump" SMV) while only costing her an extra 30minutes~ of chores every day.

>>216633630
Why not just say how it should be, two grown up adults that do chores every day more or less depending who has more free time. And they are both emotionally mature.

>>216632647
not everyone can live with his mother into his 50s like you, luigi

>>216633690
>like you
If i was still living with my mother i would have already killed myself.

>>216633592
You could learn a lot from people that are mostly like you, but you gatekeep and stay retarded.

>>216633733
what exactly should I learn from whom? I have nothing to learn from retards who think noncels are anything like incels in any way.
>oh no I haven't had sex for 6 months I am totally like you
fuck off, unvirgin scum

>>216633733
She still had her first time with someone, there are people like me who doesn't even know how a kiss or holding hands feels

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>>216623176
Saaaaaar

>>216633689
You're either retarded, female (retarded), or baiting. I refuse to believe a biological male doesn't see the appeal of a woman that doesn't act like a man who screeches at you about equality every 5 minutes, and actually makes your life easier for you and doesn't cause drama like every other woman.

>>216633809
You are all
>me me me
What about her? If i had a girlfriend i would also do the same to her anon, making her life easier and shit. You are writing as if you want to laze around while she do most of the stuff

>>216623200
No, you are just recognise the same problem that women are more capable of verbalising. You are having sex with people who are a net negative on your life outside of their wet pouch. What we all want is someone we love deeply and who makes are life better and genuinely likes us back, and we can show our affection to eachother physically. Men are often willing to do the sex thing then just try to put up with the naggy bitch, or disappear quickly after the deed, but women value physical sex a lot less, and so can much more focus on just finding love.

>>216623869
thats your reason for finding a partner?
poor woman

>>216633779
>How could having a similar control group possibly be useful data?
Stay retarded
>>216633795
I understand that has specific issues but your only one awkward first time away from many other men and then their game will matter to you

you're*

>>216630994
Unironically bad upbringing and cultural brainwashing. Feminists in the west brag about not knowing how to cook, clean, or do anything feminine, ironically. After they've been indoctrinated at school and university they are simply unable to grasp that doing those small things would make them go from a 5 (avg) to a 8 in most men's minds.
On the other side of the coin I've seen them completely switch their personalities for someone they like, but unfortunately it's not their default state so as the feelings fade so does their feminine attitude and actions. We just need to raise 1 generation well to get back to normal and I hope it happens

>>216633876
We're talking about femcels here not women who have no problem attracting and locking down adequately attractive mates in long-term relationships. I'm telling you how you can get an adequately attractive male mate to stick around after the first couple nights of fucking you when he usually gets bored and leaves. She wants a good mate so she'll do this and get one. Do you know how many men grind for years or decades to get money/power/authority to attract attractive women? Making two extra eggs for breakfast in the morning and handing them to your BF on toast is not harder than that.

>>216633930
>a similar control group
and what group is that? what group do you think is similar to incels? there isn't one. you're either a incel or a normalfag sexhaver

>>216634102
Pretty sure you're talking to a female. They stated basic living activities as "all the work" lmao

>>216634133
>it's sasha's first time encountering a med
they're just lazy as fuck and don't actually do any work

>>216634133
I'm a fatass anon >>216624875

>>216634150
We have our own version of them. They're called Montenegrins. Their women still make breakfast and do laundry like normal women though.
>>216634153
Okay well, it's not unrealistic for an average looking and able bodies woman to cook something simple in the morning and clean from time to time.
I've banged a couple girls that woke up before me the next day, washed dishes, and made toast and eggs in the morning because they wanted to send a signal that they're worth keeping around. It usually worked. The barrier to entry is literally just having hands, sub 80 IQ retards could grasp do it.

>>216634153
I'm calling bullshit desu there's a very low possibility that you're actually male if you're not baiting. I think you're a woman mister. Please post wrist with timestamp, many thanks beforehand.

>>216634285
>because they wanted to send a signal that they're worth keeping around
That's the thing i don't understand. Why should a signal be needed? I prefer a fatass woman that burn even eggs with my same mindset than a trophy feminine wife that know how to clean and to cook for me. Those signals with me would just fly out of the windows because i don't see anything other than a nice gesture i would replicate the next time i get

>>216634520
>That's the thing i don't understand. Why should a signal be needed?
Because people don't have inherent worth or utility without actions. Just having a fat ass and a vagina is not enough to keep around the type of men most women are looking for.
Trophy wives and trad wives are a meme. If someone can be replaced by 5 minutes with my right hand and an internet connection they're not staying for long. I do man stuff to make her life easier, she should do woman stuff to make mine easier. This isn't exactly controversial anywhere but pozzed feminist countries my friend

>>216634764
Also I'm almost certain you are female now or raised by a single mother or both with your last statement. Having to explain to someone they can't just lay around and take dick and be a worthwhile romantic partner is giving me flashbacks talking to shitty western women.

>>216634808
>Having to explain to someone they can't just lay around and take dick and be a worthwhile romantic partner
We are saying the same thing. But as i expect something from my wife she will expect the same. Just fucking that. Doing nice gestures to each others should be the bare minimum almost

>>216634869
Ya kos amk you're already giving her money, either directly or indirectly through constant dates and bills because she'll lose it if you tell her to pay for her food on date night. You're also giving her access to a high-value male (who they actually want) and she's a femcel who couldn't get one before. These are two things you're giving her and she's not giving you shit in return other than pussy which can be replaced with any other woman so why are you staying with her??? You're definitely a woman or being intentionally dense i won't reply anymore after this post.

Women can get anything with her vagina no matter how ugly and annoying she is. Women can't be incel.

>>216635044
Thanks god i'm not a woman, don't have to deal with a fag that think having a job entails anything. You do understand that women work the same jobs as you right?

I know I'm retarded for taking the bait but imagine it like this: Scarlett Johansson offers to go out on a date with you, would you tell her to split the bill or that you forgot your wallet back home or would you pay the tab? She's giving you her attention and time which is a very high-value object for the average male so you have to balance it out with money.

Reverse the roles but it's Chad giving his time, attention, and money to an average/below average female who's exceptionally picky and will not settle for any average male. Except here it isn't money it's just basic feminine chores.

>>216634869
I'm positive you're xx friendo. Relationships aren't equal partnerships. Each person usually does what they're willing and capable to do and women have the easier role. Fry some eggs, clean a bit, don't be a cunt. Femcel problem solved. Meanwhile the man has to grind for years if not decades to even be at a level to attract the type of woman he wants. On top of that during the relationship he has to put in anywhere from 50%-200% more effort, usually all the money, keep his emotions totally under control, and the list goes on. This is completely expected of men. Female expectations are in the floor until it's time to get serious and have children, then they go up a bit. But then so does the man's.

>>216635044
I'm convinced anybody that doesn't understand this extremely basic things about intersexual dynamics is a female, more precisely a western feminist. I'm wasting keystrokes here, I'll stop reply too

>>216623176
As a hardcore incel i can kind of empathize with ”””femcels””” or really mid and ugly women (which is what they actually are)
Unlike men women have a hard time finding men attractive. This is a bit of a curse when you think about it. Would you rather be an incel, wanting most women and being unable to get any, or a mid woman, not being attracted to men but wanting to be attracted to men?
Both suffer in the end. You cant ask women to just decide to be attracted to their looksmatch

>>216635158
I'm not baiting, i'm just a 28 year old kissless handholdless retarded virgin. But with this you are saying the femcel isn't working? Then yeah, if she's going a stay at home woman it's another thing

I’m reading the thread and seeing a lot of men writing something like ”they can get love and a caring good relationship they just choose not to”
This isnt true from their perspective
Yes YOU would get love and a caring relationship because you’re a man and thus find most women attractive. She wouldnt feel loved if she’s in a relationship with an unattractive because love is reciprocal. It has to go both ways. And only chad can give her that love that she yearns. She is cursed in the end

>>216635228
My mother and every woman from her generation (pre-90s) could easily understand this, but my sisters who were raised when the "girlboss" movement landed here somehow don't really get it and i doubt it's probably much worse for full western feminists. It's not like women can't understand this they do on an instinctive level but they get conditioned so thoroughly in the West from birth until university that they end up becoming totally delusional. No wonder you guys have below replacement rate TFRs you're cooked.

>>216635454
I don't know why but it seems places that you wouldn't think would fall for this have fallen for it. Spain is somehow hyper feminist as well as most of their old colonies. Egypt somehow despite being poor and majority Muslim. It's happening here at a much slower pace, but there's a war in recent memory maybe that's why. Anyway my condolences, I've spent a lot of time in the west and finding a woman that even acts feminine at all is a nightmare there. Precisely because of the reasons you mentioned

>>216633930
>I understand that has specific issues but your only one awkward first time away from many other men and then their game will matter to you
You will never understand the hearts of men.

>>216623209
Imagine the hot, steamy hate sex between these two

>>216634106
>you're either a incel or a normalfag sexhaver
Retard. I'm a virgin woman(female) and I don't care about having sex at all and I'm certainly not a normalfaggot. Actually, wanting to have sex with 3dpd makes (You) a normalfag.
back to >>>/r9k/

>inb4 https://voca.ro/1aVUNyq9TVUq

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What is it about these threads that generates so many (You)s

>>216636115
Loneliness

>>216636115
It's top tier bait because everyone using this site is either an incel or an ascended ex-incel so it's a sore spot. Plus it's rife with misinformation and outright lies because courtship isn't meant to be easy so you can bait and play dumb and not instantly get called out for it. Plus money, sex (and fear) are the two biggest positive motivating factors.

>>216636115
incels see the word femcel and they start fuming

>>216623176
Women can only feel love through sex. Women will sacrifice it all just to get one good night of sex. They literally don't care about anything else.

They are sad because the guys who fuck them good are guys who naturally have sex with many other women, thus neglecting them.

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>>216636261
This is why women don't really care if their man cheats on them. They subconsciously know it's only natural for a man who's great at sex to get many other women.

>>216636506
Is this a viable romance technique?

>>216623242
I wish we could mass lobotomize women to not be subhumans like this

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>>216636645
It's better than to try to befriend them for sure. If you want a woman to actually love you, she needs to know you are always down for good sex.
Anything else and you will merely become a provider to her.

>>216636692
Okay but what about normal healthy women?

>>216636692
This woman has borderline personality disorder kek

>>216636713
'Normal women' are just women who aren't open about their fantasies to you.

>>216636769
fantasies are healthy
seeking out abuse isn't

>>216628100
TRUTH TSAR BOMBA

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>>216636798
Well, you just have to be lucky enough to have her never ever meet someone who she truly falls in love with. Nowadays that's hard to find.