why did they, out of nowhere, decide to burst out with knowledge and philosophy vastly ahead of their own times and human civilization of that era, only to fall down afterwards and turn into a regular Balkan eastern European poorhole again?
>>216820547most of ancient asia was like that its just that westerners appropriated it because they could say it was european to justify their racism against non europeans
>>216820596show me one Asian philosopher who said something as wise as this:>Not to be born is, beyond all estimation, best; but when a man has seen the light of day, this is next best by far, that with utmost speed he should go back from where he came. For when he has seen youth go by, with its easy merry-making, what hard affliction is foreign to him, what suffering does he not know? Envy, factions, strife, battles, and murders. Last of all falls to his lot old age, blamed, weak, unsociable, friendless, wherein dwells every misery among miseries~Sophocles, 406 BC
>>216820547Because of contact with Eastern thinking via colonies
>>216820547Your kind (slavshits) ruined the area together with the roaches
>>216820634Human nature is evil; its goodness derives from conscious activity. Now it is human nature to be born with a fondness for profit. Indulging this leads to contention and strife, and the sense of modesty and yielding with which one was born disappears. One is born with feelings of envy and hate, and, by indulging these, one is led into banditry and theft, so that the sense of loyalty and good faith with which he was born disappears. One is born with the desires of the ears and eyes and with a fondness for beautiful sights and sounds, and, by indulging these, one is led to licentiousness and chaos, so that the sense of ritual, rightness, refinement, and principle with which one was born is lost. Hence, following human nature and indulging human emotions will inevitably lead to contention and strife, causing one to rebel against one’s proper duty, reduce principle to chaos, and revert to violence. Therefore one must be transformed by the example of a teacher and guided by the way of ritual and rightness before one will attain modesty and yielding, accord with refinement and ritual, and return to order. -Xunzi, 310-238 BCE
>>216820634>>216820728
>>216820547Ancient Hellenes were from Nordic stock. Akin to great thinkers and poets from our era such as Hitler, Varg Vickerness, The Golden One "aka. the Lion of Sweden", STJ, Marie Cachet, etc.Brownoids or slavshits could never create such civilization. It's like saying a chess table with all its pieces could form itself alone.
>>216820724Slavs were actually invited by Greek emperors to have settled in Greece because they were seen as worthy contribution that could be easily assimilated (which eventually worked out, even Ataturk was of Greek-Slav origin
>>216820929Shut the fuck up Vargiño
>>216820728this is just Buddha's teachings bro, nothing innovativethere is a reason why pretty much all philosophical ideas were transferred from India to China and never the other way roundand Indian and Greek philosophies stem from the same Indo-European root
>>216820965Romans were akin to North Italians (Nordics)
>>216820979???That's not true at all though. Buddha taught that attachments caused suffering and proposed his ideas of non-attachment as a way out of Samsara. Xunzi was a Confucian philosopher, what he was talking about here was about social order, although his philosophy was not popular because of how pessimistic it was and Mencius ideas became most prevalent. Not related but I dont get a chance to share much pessimistic stuff, so heres one of my favorites, native mexican midwives would say this after delivering a child:>“You have come out on earth, my youngest one, you have suffered, you are exhausted. You have come to arrive on earth, where your relatives, your kin suffer fatigue and exhaustion; where it is hot, where it is cold, and where the wind blows; where there is thirst, hunger, sadness, despair, exhaustion, fatigue, pain. The Lord and Lady of the Night Sky have breathed life into you, sending your soul to this place of burden and torment.”
>>216821083>Buddha taught that attachments caused suffering>Xunzi was a Confucian philosopher, what he was talking about here was about social order,...and lack of social order is seen negatively because it causes suffering, that's where the connection isand this general idea that "trying to indulge desires brings suffering" is so typically buddhist/hinduist so it's clear it was borrowed from there
>>216820547>>216820634>DUDE LIFE IS... LE DEEP!!111!!!Wow, so profound, bro.Sumerians built human civilization and structure as we know it.Stop embarrassing yourself.
>>216821463you're just jealous because despite building great political empires, Persians have never invented any interesting and groundbreaking philosophical ideas. (No, Zoroaster hasn't really created anything like that, it was just a silly religion with weird rituals and zero rational philosophy we could see as a source of relevant ideas today).
>>216821414You really couldn't be further from the truth but its whatever
>>216820547aliens
>>216821539yes Zhang, you just have to accept that India was more progressive and developed than China back then
>>216821612I am a member of the human race and all the world is my heritage.
>>216821003Salût
>>216820547kratos killed all their gods
>>216820547You shouldn't put modern day greece in place of ancient greek city states though they are hardly related
>>216821003>posts brown statue>immediately backpedals from Nordics to North Italians
slaveryalso aliums
>>216821511>Philosophy >A bunch of hyper educated faggots saying what everyone knows but because the rest of the population is illiterate the garbage words of those fags stand outTypical euroshart brain, absolutely unable to see past the glitzy surface.
>>216822058well, Europeans are all well fed and have all their basic needs met because they created self-sufficient and well-functioning countries for themselves, so they naturally think about 'higher' ideas more than just necessities for survival, you can't blame them
>>216822356Uh huh.Explains why they're crying 24/7 about taxes and low income while chimpingout at each other over shitty politics then beg at every turn for daddy America to lend lease their asses for everything including crying about russhits.Everyone has seen your so-called higher ideas (good thing you put it into quotations too since you knew subconsciously that they're a joke.)>Life is le deep>My skin color makes me special>My diet consists of coffee and cigarettes >We should make lolis legal for fucking>Rapes underage boysSpare yourself the embarrassment.
>>216822058Just accept our culture and history are kinoer and superior to yours
>>216822508if you were born in 500 BC you would have probably become a founder of a new religion my sarmatianbro
>>216822531You're a joke. The biggest of them, probably.>Needs NapoopaN TotallatoT to remind them what a unified state meansThen again, you may just be a Somali in Italia so who knows.>>216822554I would never subject people to rubbish.>Worship this dildo and text otherwise you shit freezing popsicles
>>216820728Here's your teacher bro.
>>216822727legitimately thought that was supposed to be keanu reeves
>>216821511persians created the idea "devil" you idiot.
>>216823838stop worshipping shias
>>216820547Unironic answer? They probably wasn't the first who came up with that but they were just at the right time relevant were papyruspaper became popular enough to captchure them firste.g. Aristarchus of Samos, who is concidered the first person to mention a heliocentric worldview and the only reason we know abt him is bcz other greeks made fun of him, no work of his is preserved Was he the first human who thought so? Most likely not, but the greeks were the first were we had written source in enough quantity that even small things were preservedAnother example ist Aristotles, at his time and until the middle ages he was concideres a lesser thinker and only bcz muslims preserved his writing we have his work and then it became apreciated for the greatness it is
>>216820547>why did they, out of nowhere, decide to burst out with knowledge and philosophy vastly ahead of their own times and human civilization of that eraThey didn't.It's not a coincidence that the part of Europe to first adopt contemporary MENA standards and advance ahead of the rest of their continent was the part closest to Mesopotamia and Egypt. Alexander would magnify this effect by netting Greece more translations of the works of the great empires of his day, but osmosis had been ongoing since prehistory there.
>>216820634>wise>Life is hard. We should enjoy the easy bits, then die. You don't want to end up like the elderly.This is a pretty typical take for every era.
>>21682182623andme
>>216820547Greeks took their alphabet from Phoenicians and their mathematical and proto-scientific ideas from Babylonians and Egyptians. Greek intellectual ferment didn't emerge from nothing.
>>216824526>Alexander would magnify this effect by netting Greece more translations of the works of the great empires of his daygreatest Greek philosophers lived before Alexander's conquests THOUGH
>>216824800Perhaps?
>>216820547Real Greeks live only here, these Aegean larpers whose ancestors were forcibly brought there from deep Anatolia by Turkish sultans should stay quiet
>>216824746The Phoenicians took the alphabet of other people, too. Besides that, Greeks had their other own alphabet you shitskin.
>>216824851also reminder that Greeks willingly adopted the Slavic language because of its greater ability to convey complex philosophical concepts than any other language on earth
>>216820547it was the zainichi christians, sir!(unironically thougheveralbeit)
>>216824913>slavic>languageThe what?
>>216821414>"trying to indulge desires brings suffering" is so typically buddhist/hinduistIt's really not
>>216820547wtf you taliking about, hellenic civilization not only ignited the flame but hold the torch for the longest and in the darkest of human history
