>discussions about low birth rates on normie sitesWe need to improve cost of living and housing costs so we will be more likely to have children>4chan discussion on birth ratesThe reason birth rates are so low is because people don't have sexWhy are 4channlers so disconnected from the outside world ?
>>217032375Birthrates are low due to women being in the workforce. It is really that simple.
They always put the baby boomer era as an example, when in reality boomers lucked out big.Other generation were much poorer and still managed to have children, people are just too neurotic and narcissistic to have children nowadays.
>>217032375This is like the 6th time you've made this thread, stop begging for attention, get new material or get the fuck out
>>217032426Women are in the workforce because one income cannot sustain a family anymore.
Even affordable countries like Romania and Poland have a fertility rate below 2.1. I think this whole unaffordable housing thing is pure cope.
>>217033321>affordable countries like Romania and Poland>affordablenot for people actually living there, Jacques
>>217033321Warsaw literally has a worse property price to income ratio than toronto does. People will look at how cheap houses are in these countries but ignore how shit the wages are and how many people are without jobs
>>217033320Women are in the workforce and college regardless of their marital status. As if you ever heard a woman articulate anything along the lines that she is going to college/work because she wants to support her future nuclear family.
>>217032375>We need to improve cost of living and housing costs so we will be more likely to have childrenExcept majority of these retards want to live way beyond their means. I'm talking about wanting a home in the middle of LA, SF, NYC, and Miami. As well as eating at restaurants and bars, and driving expensive cars.
>>217032375Oh it’s this retarded Canadian thing again. Should go look into the archives
Normgroids will blame anything but the real problem (women), thankfully artificial wombs will exist within the next 19 years and we'll no longer have to pretend they are human
James also has access to post grad education while his grandfather worked his fucking body to the bone.
Why are incels getting so triggerd over this ? You tink middle class people want to have kids when they cant afford houses and combine their income to live in a shit apartment with thousands in student debt ?
>>217034228Opinion discarded
>>217034246>toronto was reported as being 15-20% south asian in 2024if it is that bad I cant even imagine how bad the usa looks
>>217032375>it’s le socioeconomic factors!No retard, Fourth world shitholes like Nigeria or Mali have high fertility rates because they treat foids like objets
>>217034337they also have no acess to birth control, medival tier health care systems, no pensions ( makes sense to have more children) and live in agrian socites
>>217032375This thread again how many times are you going to post this shite
Birth rates are low because having children is a low priority or to women. Look at at how the hordes of swifties turned on her with her latest album. Instead of writing another batch of songs about playing high school games with a string of boyfriends at age 36, she is singing about being attracted to her man and settling down. To western women, having children might as well be chattel slavery. If they whine about maternity leave, or cost of living, they are mostly being dishonest. A majority of women are still having plenty of sex with a minority of men. It's a majority of men that have now become sexless and extraneous in this new sexual landscape in which sex and relationships are a commodity.
>>217032679This is just gaslighting. Earlier generations did not have women in the work force. Inflation and cost of housing completely went out of hand when women entered the workforce in the 60s and 70s.
>>217034738>>217032679The baby boomers were from a baby boom, it was a historical anomaly on a downward trend that's been happening since the industrial revolution. Hell, France had tanked fertility rates as early as the early 18th century.
>>217032375why do people act like low birth rates are a problem? the world doesn't need more midwits and useless eaters consooming with 0 valuable output.
>>217033320No, women are in the workforce because HR hires women. Most women in the workforce are unmarried.
>>217033321Poland's tfr is a whole 1.0 below that lol
>>217034894are you purposely being dumb ?
>>217032375The soyboy on the bottom answered the question, he should have joined the army instead he's a bum
>>217034738>Earlier generations did not have women in the work force. Yes both in medieval and industrial eras, the children also worked, everyone workedYou're norwegian you should know how crucial women are in the fishing industry
>>217032375I dont have kids because im incel. I don't know why normies dont have kids tbhdesu. yeah life is hard but it was always hard. >>217032426Explain israhell
>>217034796Not saying the baby boom wasn’t its own kind of exception, but even my working class great grand father was able to buy the family farm at age 24 and start a family twice (his first wife died, so he got a new wife and new set of kids with her). Now it’s the expectation that you need a double income to even afford a home, and of course when women are working they don’t have time to raise kids so that too gets delayed.
>Online discussionIt turned out you were just talking to either NEETs or Indians
>>217034796>FranceThey were always known to be degenerates. How did the degeneracy spread
>>217034945They worked at home / close to home and only for a few hours at the time. And also the larger family units were around to take part in raising the kids. The «spending more than a third of your day toiling away for a a wage» didn’t happen until after the Industrial Revolution.
>>217032375people don't have sex because guys don't make enough money and women won't settle for a guy when they can use an app and be in chad's harem>>217033320you can't sustain a family on a single income due to women being in the workforce
>>217034796I think the decline before was understandable, with the great depression and wars, after ww2 ended the world became somewhat stable and people started to have children again.Now the economy isn't great but still manageable, but it would mean, leaving hypergamy behind, working as a team and making sacrifices in order to raise a family, but many people don't want that, so they scapegoat le heckin' economy, when in reality life has never been easy but they still managed.
>>217034971Shut up sex tourist.
>it's another /int/ tries to unpack a nuanced problem episode
Firsties are not having kids because even the poorest families are expected to spend quite a bit for their wellbeing like education and nutrition. It's not like the good old days when you could have had shitloads of them and sent them to work in the fields or factories once they turned 5. At the same time we're not making enough money for dual income families to hire nannies to care for them all day.Normies have it bad
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