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What went wrong Proteschads?
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>>217158207
it went fine
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why was southern france always commiting heresy? what's their issue?
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They are fags and jews
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>>217158232
The Occitan yearns for freedom from the Parisian yolk
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>>217158207
Never understood why these maps always put Anglicanism with the other protestants. They have nothing to do with them.
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>>217158207
>>217158232
You're speaking Protestant right now sanchez

>>217158234
You're speaking Protestant right now luigi
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>>217158207
Good thing to know that there were no Calvinists in Slovakia, but there were Lutherans in Novi Sad
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>>217158336
>You're speaking Protestant right now luigi
Catholic kids are a relative majority in Ingurland
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>>217158207
Jews aggresively pushed secularism and Atheism.
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>>217158207
hussites appeared and lost before protestantism
all protties are essentially neohussites, but czechophobic germs won't admit this
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>>217158207
>most of the developed catholic regions of Europe were once protestant
Weber was right tho
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>>217158207
protestant priests actually studied paganism and thought it was nice to hug trees
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>>217158336
English was a catholic language long before protestantism existed, stop culturally appropriating us
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>>217158207

The Reform/Protestation wasn't much different with the creed in regards to [political] power structure(s). This is very important to remember, it's the most important detail ever sidelined or omitted.


Martin Luther & his wife were of the nobility. Martin spoke as their chief defendant of the princes & kings that united as a force, respectively the medium/petty nobility as well. This is from where he was labeled as a “Protestant Pope”.

Jean Cauvin (John Calvin) did the same essentially, focusing more on the blind spots & exceptions where Luther didn't knew, decreed something unilaterally or any other reason. Unlike Luther, Cauvin was more of a hands-on approach trainer, with absolutist consequences (you walk over the grass, you're burned to the stake; you accidentally scratch the wall, you get imprisoned for life; you celebrate something that belittles the faith or copies from obscure “pagan” idiosyncracy, you get tortured to death & everything you own confiscated). If you do anything bad, it's your fault, not the ones imposing the rules.

Blaming the victim is a calvinist impulse, more often than not.

Both of them were appealing for the nobility, kinglets, princes, and kings that weren't as proeminent within the primogeniturist Roman Catholic Church – hence, the Protestation Church.

>TL;DR 1

Luther was the personal PR secretary & chauffeur for the executive board, CEO & chairman; Cauvin was the coaching HR people's management director.

>TL;DR 2

Nobility, Princes & Kings – O7-O10 “Sottocapos, Capos & Capo di Tutti Capi”

Luther – O6 “Consigliere”

Cauvin – E4/E5 “Caporegime”
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>>217158207
>>217160840
(cont.)

Where did it failed?
Same story, as always: the nobility puffing itself to be above the regular people for abuse, the same abuse by the primogeniturist nobility with the RCC.


Eventually, the [French] Jacobins solved all issues & leftover questions from the Reform theologians & statesmen such as Richelieu and Cromwell.

What's pitiful, frankly, is that there are still monarchies & nobilities surviving.
Republicanism in Europe cannot survive under such abject duress.
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>>217158291
It was inspired by protestants even if they larp as pseudo-catholics
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The vatican loosened the tax burden and grip in general on catholic monarchs to decrease the risk of more of them simply founding their own curches. Which was the reason why so many northern rulers turned to protestantism in the first place. The degree to which it involved itself in politics at all after the 30 year war was never the same. Prior it topled kings and emperors on the regular. Popular support, existing or not was really an afterthought outside of a few regions in Germany
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nothing fails to make this board seethe more than protestantism

at the end of the day 99% of you are brown zoomers
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>>217158416
>hussites appeared and lost before protestantism
Wrong, Hussites won and even had a king in the end. The faith then naturally evolved into Moravian Church which was the dominant religion here until recatholization during and after 30 years war when other protestants were already in full strenght.
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>>217158259
>yolk
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>>217158291
>Anglicanism
it was literally made up so some king could unmarry and then marry another woman



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