>EVERY BABY IS BORN A DISGUSTING LITTLE SINNER FULL OF EVIL UNTIL THEIR HEAD IS DUNKED IN MY SPECIAL WATER>YES BABIES THAT DIED AT BIRTH OF DISEASES I INFLICTED UPON THEM ARE BURNING IN HELLFIRE (DE PECC. MER., ST. AUGUSTINE)>OK AND YES I KNOW I SAID THE SINS OF THE FATHER ARE NOT VISITED UPON THE SON (EZK. 18:20) BUT.. BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT AND IF YOU QUESTION THIS YOU BURN TOO!!!!!Do people in your country still believe this?
>>217176956there's no people on earth who believe it. there's just subhuman golems that are the enemy. it's impossible for a human to worship the sick and evil abrahamic creation
>heh I will take the risk of going to eternal hell to own the believers!
>>217176956Baptism like most rituals you associate with Catholicism were historically done later in life. Dean Stanley describes early baptism as some hardcore simulated burial ritual. Part of me thinks it Catholicism was at one point the equivalent of a hardcore tantric death cult. It really is mysterious no matter how much Protestants tried to whitewash it as a 'revealed' religion.
>>217177020I demand reparations from the Jews for my mutilation.
>>217176956>ONLY THE MATERIAL IS REAL I AM SO SMART
>>217177031This was literally a philosophical thing few centuries ago. Some guy went with: If faith i wrogn i'll waste a bit of time be practicing, if faith is right then i'll burn in hell forever for not partaking in it.The question is which faith is right, but you have to play the game to have any chance to win, by doing nothing you can only lose
>>217176956Catholicism is false and doesn't represent real Christian doctrine.
>>217177400>have to play the game or you lose even if you don'tPascal's wager runs on an even dumber premise, there's no express win condition in religion apart from dying. Considering that no one tells you what happens after Pascal for some reason asserted that IF there was an afterlife then would you not want to hedge your bets, even when provided no proof of one. It assumes you accepted their maxim of afterlife to begin with.
>>217177400But if you have "faith" only to play the game, it is not true faith. Doesn't this matter?
>>217177400>worship a demon because his followers tell you you're going to be tortured forever if you don't?>heh, so what if i worship the demon? he might not torture me according to his cultist. i'm a genius. who cares if it doesn't work. i kneelthere's a reason why that philosophy isn't worth wiping your ass with
>>217177031>>217177400What if it's all a test and you'll go to hell if you're dumb enough to believe in religion?
>>217177445Can I get a source on this? Would this 'otherworld' be related to an 'underworld'? Because there really isn't a dualistic concept of afterlife in many other religions, not even Judaism has one.
OP is a yid who will never make aliyah
>>217177665>Would this 'otherworld' be related to an 'underworld'? Not necessarioy, more like 'of a coming age'.
>>217177658it is and every abrahamic vermin is going to have their soul annihilated. think about it>demon cultist tell you their demon is going to torture you forever and ever if you don't worship him>the demon they worship does the most evil ritual of humanity a pedo sexual torture ritual on a newborn baby>it was created by the most disgusting group on earth>when it came into power there was no golden age instead just darkness and ruin while they slaughter for a millennium>they didn't give humanity any of the most essential things even according to their own demon theology instead they just try to act ownership of what comes laterthere's absolutely no reason to think anything abrahamic is something besides a demon cult. especially the wicked and worm like nature they always display.
>>217177776Christianity explicitly condemns genital mutilation. The God of the Jews is not the God of Christianity. Only the God of Christianity is real. Hell is an unChristian concept that has no basis in the New Testament, hell isn't mentioned at all in the New Testament.
>>217177658Who's testing you and what is hell if there's nothing supernatural for you to beleive in?
I'm agnostic but I appreciate how christianity is infinitely more rational and humane than both islam and judaism, where instead of a symbolic dive in water you must mutilate your genitals to swear your allegiance to the divinity. There is no dumb shit about specific meats being impure either
>>217177864where is the pope writing the edict to ban it?where is the protestant leaders advocating to ban?why don't christian nations BAN IT?you're a little vermin that's complicit in it and doing pilpul. western nations ban mutilating females, but they don't ban it for men because you're little vermin cultist that will have your soul annihilated at death. it's a test to see if you're a worm who conspires to assist evil or not and every abrahamic vermin is like you.ACTIONS. not words little pilpul abrahamic worm.
>>217177910Christianity is a purely philosophical thing, Islam and Judaism is a 4000 years old desert survival guide. They're lucky drinking cammel piss wasn't mandated
>>217177776Almost no one is circumcized in Europe. There needs to be more to where ever circumcision comes from. Muslims (who hate jews btw) do it more than Europe and even the US. Circumcision only started in the US after the civil war, I'd imagine whoever spread this practice were the same kind of people behind Islam/Talmudic Judaism. I'm even dubious about it being historically religious because even in the Ottoman empire they didn't do it to newborns, it was a rite of passage for adults.
>>217178020>NOBODY DOES IT IT'S NOT A THING. X GROUP DOESN'T COUNT.why isn't it banned and illegal, worm? why the fuck did your faggot jew on a stick have it done to him along with all the other demonic followers you call "saints"?on the planet earth it's just abrahamic vermin and some demonic african cannibal tribes who do this.
>>217177923>where is the pope writing the edict to ban it?>where is the protestant leaders advocating to ban?Many Christian figures heoughout history explicitly condemned it.>why don't christian nations BAN IT?Most Christian nations sadly have a Jew infestation, those Jews use their malign infouence to oppose any bans on male genital mutilation.>you're a little vermin that's complicit in itNo I'm not, you retard. I would personally execute every single genital-mutilator myself if I could. I didn't choose to be born into a world controlled by Jews, crawling with Jews, I didn't choose to have my nation controlled by Jews.
>>217178090ACTIONS. ACTIONS. worm.we already know evil says everything and contradicts itself constantly. it will say one thing and do another. it will give the appearance to gain power and do the opposite.CHRISTIAN nations don't ban it. christian nations advocate for it under the guise of "religious freedom" and try to stop it from being banned. your pope can advocate for refugees but he can't condemn mutilating newborn babies?>BUT 400 years ago somebody said something>A RANDOM PERSON SAID SOMETHING 800 YEARS AGO THAT CONTRADICTS WHAT THE OTHER GUY SAID 1500 YEARS AGO SO UHHHHH umMMMACTIONS NOW WORM. i see christian subhumans advocating for porn bans and every other sorta thing so where are they trying to make it illegal do this demonic ritual for their demon?
>>217177194prove the opposite then genius
>>217176956We settle the mood by singing a horrible song about these horses fucking
>>217178088>>217177923christians don't get circumcised because, in the gospel, jesus constantly redirects focus from outward semitic ooga booga rituals to inward transformation. the culmination of this process is jesus' statement about "circumcising one's heart" or the one where he says that "nothing that goes into the body defiles the soul", which are the biblical foundation for the abandonment of circumcision and kosher/halal food distinctions. later, the apostles reaffirm this by saying that circumcision is meaningless as the law has been fullfilled and the new covenant is about belief in God, not cutting parts of your body.
>>217178403>"nothing that goes into the body defiles the soul"why do christians think being gay is wrong then?
>>217178403actions not words, worm.
>>217177776Sometimes I feel bad when I'm distant to my parents or go long time without contacting them. Then I remember they had me brutally tortured and mutilated as an infant and I stop feeling quite as bad.
>>217178440I think that's a Protestant/Jewish thing mostly. Sincerely why does the modern conception of Christian afterlife almost entirely come from Augustine? The only other people who had a problem with gay sex were Persians particularly Manicheans and Zoroastrianism. Incidentally Augustine was a Manichean for like 10 years before converting to Catholicism.
>>217178736I'm sorry you suffered such mutilation. I hope foregen is successfully in restoring the foreskins of genitally-mutilated males and intersex people.
>>217178440if you get raped it's not a sin, so it's not the dick going inside you that makes you impure, but the lustful thoughts and act
>>217177020Reminder that every usanon went through this in his life
Circumcision makes me sad
>>217177902there might be a god who rewards atheism and punishes religion
>>217176956>EVERY BABY IS BORN A DISGUSTING LITTLE SINNER FULL OF EVIL UNTIL THEIR HEAD IS DUNKED IN MY SPECIAL WATEROriginal sin isn’t personal sin>YES BABIES THAT DIED AT BIRTH OF DISEASES I INFLICTED UPON THEM ARE BURNING IN HELLFIRE (DE PECC. MER., ST. AUGUSTINE)Not what St. Augustine taught concerning hell, he did not teach that they are actively punished like the damned, something closer to limbo (ie not punished because they committed no personal sins, but no supernatural bliss either because they are unregenerate)>OK AND YES I KNOW I SAID THE SINS OF THE FATHER ARE NOT VISITED UPON THE SON (EZK. 18:20) BUT.. BUT THAT DOESN'T COUNT AND IF YOU QUESTION THIS YOU BURN TOO!!!!!Inheriting a damaged human nature isn’t the same as inheriting punishment for personal sin. >people actually fall for 2007 /r/atheism-tier bad faith argument and caricatures of Christianity
>>217181209Limbo does not exist. St. Augustine said explicitly if you are not with God you are in Hell.
>>217177445>Muh catholicism even though every branch of christianity has hell among its beliefs
>>217181209>>217181269https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/cti_documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20070419_un-baptised-infants_en.html>In countering Pelagius, Augustine was led to state that infants who die without Baptism are consigned to hell. He appealed to the Lord's precept, John 3:5, and to the Church's liturgical practice. Why are little children brought to the baptismal font, especially infants in danger of death, if not to assure them entrance into the Kingdom of God? Why are they subjected to exorcisms and exsufflations if they do not have to be delivered from the devil? Why are they born again if they do not need to be made new? Liturgical practice confirms the Church's belief that all inherit Adam's sin and must be transferred from the power of darkness into the kingdom of light (Col 1:13). There is only one Baptism, the same for infants and adults, and it is for the forgiveness of sins. If little children are baptized, then, it is because they are sinners. Although they clearly are not guilty of personal sin, according to Romans 5:12 (in the Latin translation available to Augustine), they have sinned “in Adam”. “Why did Christ die for them if they are not guilty?” All need Christ as their Saviour.>The sole remedy for the sin of Adam, passed on to everyone through human generation, is Baptism. Those who are not baptized cannot enter the Kingdom of God. At the judgement, those who do not enter the Kingdom (Mt 25:34) will be condemned to hell (Mt 25:41). There is no “middle ground” between heaven and hell. “There is no middle place left, where you can put babies”. Anyone “who is not with Christ must be with the devil”.>God is just. If he condemns unbaptised children to hell, it is because they are sinners.Augustine would call you a Pelagian heretic and have you killed.
>>217181296Nor every branch. Many Saints believe hell doesn't exist.
>>217181325>The sole remedy for the sin of Adam, passed on to everyone through human generation, is Baptism.This is morally reprehensible. Augustine was wrong about original sin.
>>217177087Hey retard, muslims are supposed to get circumcised too. We're on the same page though.
