Burgers literally killed each other over an obvious ethical question of whether it's okay or not to enslave people
>>217199846>peopleThey are archaic hominids albeit
>>217199846>ethical question of whether it's okay or not to enslave peopleYeah, people.The slaves in the USA were African.
You city folk wouldn't understand
>>217199846it's ok if it serves israel's interests
>>217199859>>217199869Not very nice things to say>t.negro who’s family who has been here longer than yours (most likely) give or take a century
>>217199846Burgers literally killed each other because one half of them had all the lucrative slaves and the other half was jealous
>>217199950I really wish black people were banned on 4chan like they are back home on stormfront
>>217200002But you wouldn't be allowed to post here then?
>>217200017my genealogy is mostly scots-irish on my mom's side and russian on my father's, so I am pure white
>>217200028>russian on my father'sNEGRO
>>217200028>scots-irish
>>217200039You're not one of us, HIVan, despite the name.
>>217200081>g-o’rilla
>>217200081I'm not a papist
>>217199846White people are like this in general. They didn't enslave blacks until recently and enslaved anyone they could (especially each other) for thousands of years. In that timeframe, they never spared women or children. There's this thread where many of them argue in favor of forced or even unpaid child labor: >>217090825
>>217199846>over an obvious ethical question of whether it's okay or not to enslave peopleIt was really the ultimate showdown between aristocratic agrarian societies vs. industrial urban societies and slavery was the most literal manifestation of this conflict in the U.S given we are a democracy and devolved federation. If the U.S weren't a democracy slavery ywould've been abolished more gradually like it had in Brazil.
>>217200243Most people didn't own slaves, it was just the issue of large, influential industrial plantation owners who wanted to preserve their power.People who wanted to bring a European aristocracy style of government here. Aspirational hacendados. Lords over serfs. That sort of society, contrasted with one of mutual respect of equals. Where the people you see everyday are dignified and not beneath you.There's a reason that in places like India and Africa it's seen as normal for the elite to have low paid maids that serve basically as serfs, but if you ask the average American it sounds degrading to do that to someone. That is the society we were trying to fight against.It's reminiscent of how today elites want a to live in gated communities and have low paid foreigners who can barely speak the language deliver food and perform all sorts of cheap labor for them. They don't want to live in a society of the dignified. They want a society where they envision themselves as elite benefactors of a quasi slave caste to the dispossession of the native working people
>>217200666>it was just the issue of large, influential industrial plantation owners who wanted to preserve their powerThat's what I was saying, it was the conflict between the emerging elite of the South and the emerging elite of the North, who had conflicting values, social structures, and ideals. They compromised later on by letting the Redeemers establish Jim Crow and work together on foreign policy, i.e Spain and China.>People who wanted to bring a European aristocracy style of government here.What are you on about, the U.S was founded by a bunch of intellectuals, Freemasons, and aristocrats that infamously hated democracy lol. >There's a reason that in places like India and Africa it's seen as normal for the elite to have low paid maids that serve basically as serfsElites and companies in the U.S still do this, that's the whole reason illegal immigration and H1Bs are a thing. They just don't do it with their own populace anymore so they can keep up a facade of being "normal" and manufacture consent of the goevrned while doing everything every elite of every society has ever done.>That is the society we were trying to fight against.Time and time again normalfags have proven themselves to be retards that should zero say in running a country. There's a reason democracy died after the Greek experiments and didn't come up again until a group of people became affluent enough to be deluded by its utopian promises again.
>>217199846>civil war was about slavery
>>217200894>>civil war was about slaveryIt's not that it wasn't about slavery, but more that what the war being over slavery represented in the U.S and world history. It was the manifestation of the industrial revolution wiping away the old world and orders we came to take for granted.
>>217200028>>217200002You seem like a whiny faggot. Maybe you should go back stormfagt. Fellow Scot’s Irish from Texas
>>217200028>russian on my father's side >I am pure whiteHIVan...
>>217199846Where does this rhetoric about the North attacking the South to take away its rights (to slavery) come from, if the war began with the confederates' attack on Fort Sumter? Even Lincoln couldn't convince the North to go to war, especially against their recent compatriots. If the South had remained peaceful, the war would never have happened and it could have maintained its independence
>>217200081Scotch irish are a mixture of protestant lowland scots and northern englishmen.
>>217200969>Where does this rhetoric about the North attacking the South to take away its rights (to slavery) come fromBecause Fort Sumter wasn't really the point of no return for the U.S, the dispute over slavery existed pretty much since the founding of the coutnry and was inevitably going to be an issue given the U.S was the only thing close to a true democracy at the time.
>>217200823>What are you on about, the U.S was founded by a bunch of intellectuals, Freemasons, and aristocrats that infamously hated democracy lolLiberalism, even if it was "liberal democracy for high achieving propertied anglos" was actually extremely radical for the time period. It literally influenced a bunch of revolutions in europe that defeated the entrenched aristocracies, the french revolution among others
>>217199846should have deport all blacks to africa
>>217199950>>t.negro who’s family who has been here longer than yours (most likely) give or take a centuryI'm old stock and Huwhite and I say pipe down Tobey
>>217200002>people use stormfront in the big 25
>>217201773>extremely radical for the time periodYeah but much like the French revolution it was very much driven by merchants, generals, and aristocrats that wanted to cut out the monarchy and church for their own self interest rather than a genuine niggerbrained revolutionary movement based in the masses like communism, islamism, or fascism.And frankly, I'm increasingly inclined to believe that getting rid of those systemic arbiters and referees like the church and monarchy was a mistake.
>>217199846Japan is most evil country despite cute lolicon facade
>>217202137>Japan is most evil countryShit like picrel and worse is a daily occurence in the West to where it's not even news
>>217199846Southerners aren't American
