How’s language learning going in your country
>>217215338I will make a conscious effort to forget english and get off the internet
>>217215402i kneel
Not great. I'm less than half-way through French and I realized it will take me a year to finish the lesson. It's just so grindy and repetitive at this point that I'm struggling to find motivation to continue.
I'm just trying to perfect the three that I know right now. Not even sure what I would want to learn as a fourth language.
>>217215338 (OP)Ça va>>217216656>finish the lessonJust use it bruh, go watch youtube videos in french with subtitles or play videogames. Language learning is supposed to be enjoyable because if you don't find joy in using it you're gonna stop doing it sooner or later and what's the point
I want to become fluent enough in Spanish that I can apply to jobs in Spain, but I'm so retarded I can barely learn what's widely considered the easiest language for native English speakers to pick up. Fuck my life.
>>217216726Estamos llenos
>>217216726I think French and Italian are a bit easier than Spanish to be honest. Spanish pronunciation is weird sometimes
>>217216724Watching videos doesn't help much. You need to learn the vocabulary and the grammar. People think you can just watch stuff in another language and you'll magically become fluent just by that. It takes active learning to do so.
>>217216726"Easiest language" is still going to be very hard due to the nature of it. There is no such thing as learning a language easily.
>>217215338En général, Je peux être paresseux. Par contre, je voyagerais au quebec l'année prochaine alors je suis excité, meme si mon français est encore cassé. Je suis en train de joeur des vidéojeux français pour améliorer ma vocabulaire Si je fais une erreur dans mon poste, corrigez-moi, je vous en prie. Je suis sur mon ordinateur et je n'ai pas un clavier français. D'habitude, j'utilise mon portable. >>217216726I took two years of Spanish in high school and college, and I could never embrace it. I just don't like the sound of the language.
>>217216809Well yeah just have a translator open and stop to translate what you don't understand. I have two Google Translate tabs open right now and sometimes I just wonder about how to say random words in french so I translate them. I also recommend having the translator for your web browser set from english to french, it's very easy to turn on and off and it's a good way to always maintain contact with the language, specially if you're just wasting time on 4chanSounds typical but you just need to find ways to use french as you would use english in your daily routine, not torture yourself with boring lessons. That's just how most people learn english
>>217216792Do latinx get butthurt if you call Español castellaño?
>>217215338The Spanish is going well. I can at least get the message of most things even if there are still some elements I don't understand. Lately I've been getting that curse of wanting to play around with other languages.
>>217216726Isn't the Spanish job-market JUST-tier? What would they even hire a burger to do?
>>217217031Dunno but it wouldn't make much sense since both "español" and "castellano" refer to things outside of latinamerica
>>217216809But so many ESL's somehow magically learned English from just playing vidya. Is that just a unique phenomenon with English, or is our language just so easy that every brainlet can pick it up without much effort
>>217215338Çok kötü. Türkçe dünyanın en zor dili. Türk kadınla düğün hiç yapmayacağım.
>>217216792>tfw had to translate thispleaseee I love Spain>>217217056I would enjoy living in Spain more than the US
>>217217089they learn it because they are forced to and exposed to it so much. If there were French games that I was forced to play due to them being miles better than english, then I'd eventually learn it too. Games are also very engaging so it makes it less of a hassle to be engaged.
>>217216997I guess I'll give that a try. I used to browse the French general here but even that was boring to me. I guess if I just go about my 4chan day and have a second tab open in french translated then it would make it more engaging.
>>217217393Nunca hablarás español. No tienes noción de los tiempos verbales, no conoces la pronunciación, no te sabes ni los géneros. Eres un guiri con un conocimiento nulo de cualquier idioma que no sea el inglés.Toda la validación que obtienes es falsa y no sentida. Detrás de tu espalda la gente se ríe de ti. Tus padres están asqueados y avergonzados de ti, tus "amigos" se ríen de tu horrible acento a escondidas.Los hablantes nativos te repudian. Miles de años de evolución lingüística les han permitido detectar tus fallos gramaticales con increíble eficiencia. Incluso los estudiantes de español que "encajan" suenan ridículos y antinaturales para cualquier hablante nativo. Tu mal uso del "ser" y "estar" lo hace obvio. E incluso aunque consiguieses acostarte con una latina, se daría la vuelta y escaparía en el momento en el que escuchase cualquier indicio de tu horrible, chirriante uso del español.Nunca serás feliz. Muestras una falsa sonrisa cada mañana y te dices a ti mismo que todo va a estar bien, pero en el fondo sientes la depresión trepando como una mala hierba, lista para aplastarte bajo su insoportable peso.Al final será demasiado que soportar - te comprarás una cuerda, atarás un nudo, lo pondrás alrededor de tu cuello y saltarás de cabeza al frío abismo. Tus padres te encontrarán, con el corazón roto pero aliviados de no tener que vivir nunca más con la insoportable deshonra y decepción. Te enterrarán con una lápida marcada por tu nombre anglosajón, y todo transeúnte por el resto de la eternidad sabrá que un guiri está enterrado ahí. Tu cuerpo decaerá y volverá a ser polvo, y todo lo que quedará de tu legado es un esqueleto inconfundiblemente no hispánico.Este es tu destino. Esto es lo que elijes. No hay vuelta atrás.
>>217216984>je voyagerais au quebec l'année prochaineJ'irai (from the verb aller, to go) is better. Your post is like "i will journey to quebec"be careful of not mixing up futur simple and conditionnel.Je voyagerais (i would go) Je voyagerai (i will go)>alors je suis excitéCommon mistake. To excite isn't used the same way in french. It's used more in the sense of pushing to, provoking or animating something, like an emotion or action. "To excite his wrath", "his speech excited the people to revolt">meme si mon français est encore cassé.english phrasing, prefer "même si mon français reste pauvre", for example>Je suis en train de joeur des vidéojeux français pour améliorer ma vocabulaireà des jeux-vidéosmon vocabulaire
>>217215338>japanese learning stalled for weeks>can barely understand anything above peppa pig level>anki reviews built up to a point where I probably may as well give up on itI just can't do this vocabulary grind and memorizing funny chinese runes anymore. It's too fucking boring
>>217217504@grok summarize this in english please
I've to study more, Spanish is just so boring (o algo).
>>217217089Trying to force a language into your brain through sheer input without translators or grammar guides is very inefficient and only works if you consume 10s of thousands of hours because English content mogs all of your NL's content even if you don't understand a word of it. Plus most ESLs on this site learned English when we didn't have many responsibilities like a job and could spend all day on the internet. Unless you're willing to spend like a decade learning Spanish through input alone or leave all Anglo content and do AJATT for Spanish you're gonna need dictionaries and grammar. It doesn't have to be dry and boring like classroom learning but you'll still have to use em desu.Y'know what just go ask the Serb on /lang/ he knows about all of this and can explain it much better than I
>>217217511Merci pour votre critique, ami. >Common mistake. To excite isn't used the same way in french. It's used more in the sense of pushing to, provoking or animating something, like an emotion or action. "To excite his wrath", "his speech excited the people to revolt"These false friends really keep fucking me over.
>>217218199is spanish really the much different?
>>217218714Like English and French, there are probably a fuck ton of false cognates
>>217218616>amii know anglo saxons think we say l'ami but unless you are a main character in a swashbuckler movie from the 1970s set in the renaissance, try avoiding that>These false friends really keep fucking me over.worse is "i'm excited" can be seen as being sexually excited. that's pretty much the only logical meaning left that can be extracted from this sentence. i'd avoid this word completely if i didn't know how to use it, it's not that common in french anyway
>>217218616also don't vouvoy people online. it's pointless
>>217218901>>217218851Noted. >i know anglo saxons think we say l'ami but unless you are a main character in a swashbuckler movie from the 1970s set in the renaissance, try avoiding that So, what do you guys typically say now? Pote, copain, reuf?
>>217216726Easy to read sure, but speaking is always going to be difficult.
>>217215338I've been properly learning spanish recently and just realized that 40% of spanish words are the same as in portuguese and also mean the same thing, other 40% are the same as in portuguese but mean completely different things (false friends), and only 20% are completely different words that don't exist in portuguese.There are so many fucking false friends it's insane.
>>217215338English:Slowly getting better... I got to a point where I can understand most of the things that are being said/written and that already made the access to "global"/anglophone part of the internet being acessable, so got lazy (also I don't have a need to) and gave up on practicing my pronounciation (and clearly, spelling)Russian:Stopped studying grammar for a while and now, started at the beggining of this month, I am using that method of learning 2 verbs, nouns and adjectives a day to acquire more vocabulary. (I also am listening to songs and watching some videos from Russian vloggers that appear on my for you page on Youtube.
>>217219265we don't really have many words like the english do to refer to an interlocutor, like mate, dude, lad, buddy, pal, bro, etcYou can say mec, which is the most common and almost the only one people say today, but it's not used as often as it is in english where you say a word like that at the end of every sentence.I don't know what reuf is, but I assume it is verlan for frère, which only maghrebi migrants say. The induced cringe from a white man saying frère could kill a manPote is the familiar word for friend, we don't use it for an interlocutor. It's also basically the only word we use for friend now because ami sounds too intense and formal, and copain/copine now has basically become the word for lover since nobody says petit ami(e) anymore, unless you say "a friend (of mine)" as opposed to "my friend", since the latter means lover. Fuck I feel old since I literally saw these changes occur through the course of my life
>>217215338I've been trying to keep to a schedule of no native language (so, English) on the Internet Mondays and Fridays to force myself to practice other languages.
>>217215338Know matlab and python, gonna start learning C soon...
it's not going
>>217217504geg
>>217215338I took an intro to japanese in uni about 5 years ago. I have forgotten most of it.
