Brazilian war of independence, which side do you support here anon?
>>217219840The slaves
>>217219859Brazil then?
>>217219840I'm glad this didn't happen. No brother wars
>>217219840How did mere rebels have that many fucking ships? Imagine if half the British Royal Navy defected to the 13 colonies during the American Revolution.
the indigenous people of the continentdeath to brazilians and death to portuguese
>>217219968>How did mere rebels have that many fucking ships? Imagine if half the British Royal Navy defected to the 13 colonies during the American Revolution.You're underestimating our power
>>217219971>>217219968The actual Portuguese navy went to Brazil
>>217219971The things 1% native ancestry makes a vato say
>>217219840>macacos vs allies of bongsI grab popcorn
>>217219968Mere rebels...? What kind of mere rebels could pull this off?
>>217219840None cause this war was stupid and should've never happened. Brazil and Portugal should've remained together with Brazil being the dominant empire, that was the only logical conclusion but it hurt the prides of both sides and now both countries are shitholes.
>>217219968Brazil at that point was an extention of Portugal, it was by itself a full kingdom. It wasn't Portugal against a bunch of savages anymore at this point but a giant emerging empire vs a old small and desperate one.
>>217220502Can you tell my why would Portugal accept being in an union where they will eventually become the weaker side forever?
>>217220365>Brazil (including modern-day Uruguay)What could've been...
>>217220618They wouldn't because of pride, as I said. But the logical conclusion long term would be to stay together, even if at the cost of their influence.>option 1: be a somewhat still independent part of a great empire created by us, under the same crown and with protection (remember brazil was strong enough to ward off the burgers, brits and frogs at this point in time)>option 2: lose my biggest partner and go back to being a small irrelevant and struggling country in a continent of thriving giants
>>217219971smart Mexican
>>217220787That's not a matter of pride that's just selling your entire country away for another's benefit, no one would ever do that. Plus the "international" community would just separate us anyway sooner or later, they would keep funding nationalist sentiment in Brazil or Portugal until we went our separate ways, and it would be very effective since the Portuguese would feel insulted being on this union and the Brazilians would want their own identity separate from the portuguese crown.
how did such a big country get raped into existence by such a small one
>>217221734Ask Britain, jeet-san
>>217220787what fucking empire my nigga brazil is a fucking shithole
>>217221843Why can't empires be shitholes?
>>217221843>PoolandBack then, retard
>>217219968>Following the return of D. João VI, the Portuguese Cortes began taking measures aimed at recolonizing Brazil, reversing its status as a United Kingdom. They demanded, for instance, the return of D. Pedro to Portugal.D. João VI was Portugal's Emperor and his son was on Brazil's side.
>>217219991>>217220025SOBERANIA
>>217219840It's crazy how this was basically just a civil war between nobility
>>217224008Worst part:>Brazil had to pay an indemnity for Portugal to recognize its independence in 1825.>However, this indemnity was paid to Portugal, not directly to the United Kingdom (UK). The United Kingdom (Great Britain) played an important role because it mediated the agreement between Brazil and Portugal and also because Brazil had to contract a loan with English bankers to pay the indemnity
>>217224291This is like what Haiti had to go through but with less ass rape
>>217224008Every single independence war in the Americas was (apart from Haiti), and in Europe tooBut the Brazilian war of independence had popular support
>>217220025>>217219991Gramps is a cowboy, he owns land and cattle and absolutely hates natives kek He is the most chill guy ever, until he speaks about indios.
>>217219840Portugal. An independent Brazil is inherently wrong.
>>217225607>flagOf course you'd say that
