Can we all agree that Germany is basically the "ground zero" of civilization and the West?
>>217611137france*
>>217611176france is basically a museum at this point anon
>>217611202france is the reason why burgeois society exists and why countries in europe are all democracies with some tricolor flag that imitates theirs
France-GermanyCharlemagne was basically the forefather of modern europe and he is most closely associated with those two lands.
>>217611296Yeah but that model is starting to lose relevanceEveryone is starting to realise the French Revolution was kind of a necessary mistake
>>217611509>Yeah but that model is starting to lose relevanceActually, people are only switching to the right wing burgeois instead of the left wing burgeois we had before.Rejecting the French Revolution would mean rejecting Liberal Democracy altogether in favour of "unconstutional monarchy", something that will not happen.
>civilizationgreece (specifically athens) and rome>the westUSA is the default "western" culture through its cultural exports (movies, music, books)
>>217611137Lol
>>217611860>USA is the defaultMaybe like 20 years ago we were. It's a mixed bag now.
>>217611202Why