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Why do Americans move so frequently within their own country, often relocating from one state to another?

In France, people tend to live close to where they were born. Only some young professionals move to Paris, mainly because job opportunities are more abundant there. However, once they gain experience, many choose to return to their home regions.
Also France is a relatively small country compared to the United States, so Americans are sometimes very far away from their parents.
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greatest country on earth
they care about making it big and they do if they move
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>>217626263
In american culture youre seen as a burden on your parents past 18 and the further you move away from them after high school, its a signal of success. Heres the american culture tier list of success markers and pretty much thats where it all starts.
>Graduate HS and move to the east coast for ivys
Youre like a golden child
>Graduate HS and move out to a state school
Good too, you moved out and youre moving on thats great
>Graduate HS and go to junior college and live with your city
Now people start to see you as below average
>Live with mom and dad, no college
Youre a failure
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Because of the history of western expansion, that's why
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>>217626263
>Also France is a relatively small country compared to the United States, so Americans are sometimes very far away from their parents.
So? We have phones, the internet, cars, and planes. I live on the other side of the country and I talk with my parents almost every day.
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>>217626735
If I want to visit my parents, it takes me less than an hour.
If you want to visit yours, you have to go to the airport, wait three hours, and then spend several more hours on a plane.
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>>217626394
This is an accurate summary of how success for young people is perceived, but it's often detached from reality.

t. went to a prestigious out-of-state university and still ended up a NEET after graduating
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>>217626394
Are there specific states people move to? People only stick to the biggest cities in the country? Or are people just moving to random places on a whim
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>>217627607
Texas, Florida, the Carolinas, Tennessee, Georgia, Arizona, Washigton gains a lot of people.

California, Illinois and even New York are losing people
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>>217627499
every little city in america has their own airport with gazillion of flights to other little american cities. their country was built for continent-size travel
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>>217626394
Do parents really kick their children out of their houses once they turn 18, or is it just a rage-farming tiktok meme?
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>>217627806
Maybe when my parents were growing up, but very uncommon now. I moved out at 23, but I had a job and finished school by that point. My brother still lives my parents’ and he’s 26. Times are tough

>>217627695
I lived in the Midwest, West Coast, and East Coast.
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>>217627806
I have never heard of anyone doing that to their child, I think it's something gen X dealt with.
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>>217626263
>Why do Americans move so frequently within their own country, often relocating from one state to another?
why shouldn't they?
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>>217627607
My state of North Carolina, it seems. I’m not originally from here either
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I assume you're some kind of bot since your post is based on a strangely specific premise that is the total opposite of reality
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2022/07/theres-no-place-like-home.html
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>>217627806
It was a 1970s-1980s thing mostly.
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>>217627695
Can american anons confirm that. I thought that went people meant the east coast they meant new york/boston.
>>217628442
Is NC the most popular state people move to? Do people move there just because its cheaper than say california or because of local governance/job market
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>>217628605
They come here to Texas, unfortunately. Fortunately they stay in places that were already shit to begin with, so they're at least contained. I would like them to stop coming though.
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>>217626263
>The capital of Vermont is Montpelier.
Today, I learnt something.
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>>217627806
it's a rage-farming tiktok meme, obviously.
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>>217628637
recently I've started to realize how crazy it is that people are just allowed to move somewhere without consulting the people who already live there.
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>>217627607
texas, florida, tennessee, the carolinas, iowa, etc
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>>217626263
Moving has just always been common here relative to Europe.

Different job sectors have different locations that are good to be at. Cost of living ends up being cheaper in some places.
>>217628605
North Carolina has a lot of corporate relocations so a lot of people have moved here for work. Lower cost of living plays a role certainly, a 150k salary in Charlotte stretches much further than a 150k in New York City. The neighborhood in NC I live in is pretty much entirely young adults from throughout the country working white collar jobs.

For manufacturing sector, state governance definitely plays a role (right to work law), though south also has weather and access to ports on its side.
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>>217628605
>Is NC the most popular state people move to? Do people move there just because its cheaper than say california or because of local governance/job market


We’re the 9th most populated state in the country now. People moved here because of work and the fact that the weather is typically mild. Of course, our infrastructure sucks and simply can’t accommodate more people moving here

>>217628690
I learned that Ozarks was just the American way of pronouncing Aux Arcs
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>>217629103
>iowa
>>217627806
That's not very common and I don't know anyone who actually did this.
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>>217626263
We've always had a history of moving, probably since we're both a settler colonial country and a frontier country.

Florida and California were barely populated in early 20th century and now they are both in top 3 by population.
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>>217626263
California is losing population since they are a boomer occupied state. Boomers get their property assessments frozen so they get to pay taxes based on whatever their home was worth in 1965. On top of that, their boomers use all their political power preventing any more housing to built for young people.

The same will happen to Florida who is also being boomer occupied (they're trying to abolish property tax).
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>>217626263
Why not its fun?
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>>217626263
I'd be miserable being with the same fuckers you spent childhood with.

Being able to just move somewhere else and make a new friend group improves by happiness.
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>>217629103
I have heard about all of those but
>iowa
Really?
>>217629262
Found the pic i was looking for. So people are basically moving to the southeast these days?
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>>217626263
It's like how big European empires functioned before our modern states. You often read about so and so that relocated hundreds of km away from home .
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>>217626263
I'm 7 miles away from the hospital i was born in, but I also lived in Kansas, Colorado and England.
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>>217632831
>iowa
>Really?
well, that's where I went.
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>>217632831
>people are basically moving to the southeast these days?
they're moving from liberal states to conservative states. really jogs the noggin.
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>>217633541
I wonder if moving from their state changes their behavior in any way.
But i think after seeing what happened here during covid with urbanites moving to villages i dont think they do.
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>>217633639
no, because they're moving to liberal cities or they're finding the little liberal enclave in the conservative city and circling the wagons.
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>>217627806
I knew one guy growing up whose parents literally kicked him out the moment he graduated high school. This was in the mid 2010s. He wasn’t even a bad kid, his dad was just a retard who believed it was what a parent is supposed to do since his dad did it to him in the 80s. And when I say kicked out, I mean he got home one day to find his stuff packed in boxes and was told he’d have to find a place to stay that night. He ended up living in the garage of a friend’s family while working at a hardware store until he managed to find a landlord who would rent to an 18 year old with no parents to cosign. Then he went to college. I hope he’s doing alright now.
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>>217633781
I've never heard of that happening in my life. If that's true that's crazy.
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>>217635317
It’s the only time I’ve ever heard of it happening first hand either. Like I said, his dad was just a retard.
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>>217627567
what career you took?
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>>217626263
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>>217633781
>He ended up living in the garage of a friend’s family while working at a hardware store until he managed to find a landlord who would rent to an 18 year old with no parents to cosign
I mean not a bad idea especially if it's an INTP, so he could become more independent and hard working, I kinda had the opposite considering how I didn't had to work (neither I was allowed to) while in the university, I'm still in after 7 years (to be fair it got inflated because of the pandemic and the retarded way they structure the career)
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>>217627806
If you are white, you aren't "kicked" out. You would already be prepared to move on.
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>>217627806
I don't know enough because I am from Eastern Europe and in my country parents are happy if you aren't a raging alcoholic but when I read the Financial Times I often find the "pull yourself by bootstraps" Western boomers, picrelated is the last one I saw in the comments there. If a guy is crazy enough to be ok with his child working 80 hours a week, he is crazy enough to kick the child out as well
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>>217626263
Usually it boils down to
>school
>work
>retirement

The first one is completely random, most people will stay in their state just because it's almost impossible to qualify for in-state tuition outside of it unless you found a job before moving. The second is dependent on the first, if you study CS your ass is going west whereas if you study tourism management your going to Florida. The final one is dependant on how much money you have and how much you like paying taxes. Generally your old geriatric ass is going to Florida
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>>217639354
Where in eastern europe?
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>>217639835
Ukraine. Since 2022 they are also happy if you are not mincemeat
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>>217639847
How come you're up so late bro?
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>>217639859
I have to live up to my status as a refugee and live on the dole, plus I draw digitally, which you can do 24/7
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>>217639882
Kek. How long have you been in Germany? Do you like it?
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>>217626263
This reminds me of something I have been curious about.
Do Europeans have it where you might say 'Well my dad's side is from here in Cherbourg but my mom is half Dutch'? Has intraEuropean migration been historically significant or is it like if you are French guy your family has pretty much been there since Charlemagne? Is it common to have family all over your country?
Americans often have a very weak sense of place and many just want to live in the few meccas of 'cool' or 'culture'.
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>>217639896
2 years and no, I hate Germany. Jad a lot of respect for the people and the country prior to arrival, did not understand the immigrants that refused to integrate in Western societies but the more I interacted with Germans the less I liked their society and the more I emphasized with the Arabs sabotaging it. At this point I am just a white-washed Orthodox Arab, sad but true
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>>217639936
Understandable
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>>217639936
>the more I interacted with Germans the less I liked their society
truth nuke
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>>217626263
Why not?
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>>217626263
>Why do Americans move so frequently within their own country, often relocating from one state to another?
i actually hate this. i know internal migration has stabilized in the last century, but when people move around a lot it breaks apart families, friends, etc
ive had too many valuable relationships destroyed by this
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>>217626263
because there are a lot of economic opportunities on the coasts, jobs can be hard to find, and many americans hate their parents.
also the country is massive with every biome you could want, sort of like the EU with less muslims.
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>>217626263
moving to new places is fun
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>>217626263
this is why america is productive and france is becoming a running joke
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>>217639936
>>217639882
>online work
then haven't you thought of moving to a cheaper place? idk like greece or whatever?
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>>217626263
>surrender monkey cant comprehend moving around for work.
That why france is a failed state and an utter shithole.
Mfs country looks like haiti.
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>>217632831
>2021-2022
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>>217642580
Doubt anything has changed since then
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>>217626263
It's not that common. People want to live close to their family so a lot of people don't move. My family has lived in Utah since it has been settled. It's common to resent people who move as not caring about their family and feeling embarrassed of their origins.
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>>217642696
That was during peak work at home and before Roe vs Wade was repealed. It most likely changed a lot.



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