Do your country's internal divisions have any history behind them? Or were they just made up without regards to history for administrative purposes?In Mexico most state borders are inherited from the internal division of New Spain although the borders of Michoacan with the State of Mexico and of Tlaxcala more or less follow the border between the Purepecha Empire and Tlaxcala Confederacy with the Aztecs. Almost all new bordes created since colonial times have just been states fragmenting.
>>217652165Yep its pretty much the old tribal areas like Suomi, Häme, Savo, Karjala etc.
>>217652165Our state borders are pretty much the administrative borders that existed upon settlement of the area. A lot of straight lines because many were drawn before anyone actually lived there or before they even knew what the terrain was like.
>>217652165Most of them are either historical statelets or generally sensible agglomorations thereofBerlin and Saarland don't really have historical precedence but also have good reasons for existingNordrhein-Westfalen, Rheinland-Pfalz, and Sachsen-Anhalt are pure post ww2 la creaturas
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>>217652165Isn't that normal for your country? Why would you maintain the borders of the previous peoples? Should Americans draw their states according to the borders of native nations?
>>217652285Are you referring to the historical provinces or the modern regions?>>217652437What was the criteria for drawing a new state then>>217652623>Nordrhein-Westfalen, Rheinland-Pfalz, and Sachsen-Anhalt Why were they created? From what entity were they carved out of?
>>217652623Bavaria is HUGE
>>217652165>Or were they just made up without regards to history for administrative purposes?That's wrong, our current borders have history. Not native american history, but still history.
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>>217652165Depends on where in our country. Out west it's just lines on a map. Farther east there were actual reasons for the borders. Michigan and Ohio fought a small quasi-war over their border, because both wanted Toledo. Michigan lost the war but was given its Upper Peninsula as a consolation prize.
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Im a little bit worried because Catalonian and Basque politicians are successfully balkanizing Spain, do you think the same will happen to Mexico, Mexihermanas?
>>217652165Many "provinces" used for fiscal purposes were already recognizable in the late 16th century. I drew red lines over the approximate current provinces' borders and a blue one over the autonomous communities'.
>>217659101por que hay tantos movimientos de independentismo en tu pais? de que le sirve a cataluña independizarse, si la UE se desintegra, tendran un espacio muy limitado para vivir y trabajar y no podran comerciar libremente con el resto de España
>>217652165yes>but why?because italians are retarded, happy?
>>217659168Porque es una unión de varios reinos y territorios con orígenes, historia e incluso idiomas diferentes y algunas son más reivindicativas al respecto supongo que por el idioma, las relaciones exteriores y la distancia respecto a la capital. Al principio lo único que tenían en común es que la misma casa real iba heredándolos todos. Incluso Portugal podría haber seguido el mismo camino ya que Felipe II también reinó allí.Realmente veo paralelismos con Reino Unido, con los galeses y los escoceses. Y la organización en autonomías moderna creo que se basó en la Alemania federal (los alemanes se unificaron relativamente tarde y tienen casos como los bávaros).En cuanto a Cataluña, ni idea porque no soy catalán. Supongo que los que se quieren independizar cuentan con unirse a la UE como país aparte o tener algunos tratados tipo Suiza o Andorra que tampoco están en la UE pero se relacionan con ella para muchas cosas. Y si no hubiera UE, pues serían un país europeo separado como otro cualquiera, no sé.
>>217659500Where did the southern provinces come from?
>>217654374>WhyTo follow the post WW2 occupation borders (NRW is British, RLP is french, SA is Soviet) and to create roughly equally sized states. Particularly SA had some smaller states like Dessau that needed to be merged into something, and I guess they didn't want Brandenburg or saxony to be too big>WhatNRW: Prussian Rheinprovinz & WestphalenRLP: Rheinprovinz and Bavarian palatinate SA: Prussian Anhalt, Dessau, and probably some minor Saxon states im forgetting>>217655043That's what siding with the French gets ya
