>alright everyone, we have undisputable evidence that the defendant committed the crime, but it was gathereed in the wrong manner therefore we must pretend we don'tdoes this happen in your country?
>>217676453Its about setting a precedent for the system, if you reward unlawful behaviour it will just propagate.
>>217676589>precedentCommon law bullshit that doesn’t mean anything in civilized countries.
>>217676453Only with drug dealers, rapists, murderers etc. Specially if they're ethnic minority.People who offend women online or say things that might be considered mean about unprivileged groups don't get such leniency.
>>217676453When you put it like that it sounds bad but this is the only way to protect privacy. A society where people can't have secrets would be crime free.
>>217676453Would you be OK with the state illegally planting "undisputable evidence" that you committed a crime to frame you?
>>217676673This is why I'm in favor of instrumentality/pluribus/becoming a collective consciousness.
>>217676648>>217676679>sudaca thirdies talking like they have a justice system
>>217676609It is the very difference between your system and ours; here the police will beat you on a minor suspicion or even arbitrarily, until they get a confession. They are incentivised to, it is more important than preserving human dignity.
>>217676752Nigga you have one of the most sudacoid justice systems in Yurop lmao Borsellino and Falcone got murdered and Berlusconi got away with stealing everything. Don't pretend you're special just because your cops accept less lowball bribes.
>>217676829>your systemWe don’t have common law. Do you?
>>217676832To be fair, Falcone and Borsellino got murdered specifically because they were too good at jailing Shitcilians.
>>217676609We have that as well. It's called Beweisverbot.
>>217676949We don’t, you fucking retard. Common law is an anglo thing. We have civil law.
>>217676752Whose procedure is largely Italian. If it doesn't work it's your fault.
>>217676832our system is thirdie tier, but at least it's not anglo tier retarded
>>217676971I know but a court can decide to ignore an evidence that touches on a sensitive Grundrecht. Like very personal diaries, or parts of it that are very intimate.
>>217676648Lol
>>217676453>the police illegally tortured you for a confession like a bunch of 15th century inquisitors and spied on you without a warrant but we're going to accept those into the evidence because people who can't afford a million dollar lawyer aren't really people!this only happens in third world countries like USA
>>217676453This is referring to the Luigi trial, isnt it.
>>217676589>if you reward unlawful behaviourcircular argument. you couldve said "if you reward immoral behavior" but instead you are justifying the law by saying it upholds the law. not surprising, asian philosophy is a poison to the mind.
>>217677828All police interrogations are on camera, and the judge will outright dismiss a case if it’s there’s flagrant abuse from a cop. While police interrogators are allowed to lie, all you have to do is remain silent or say you only want to talk to a lawyer. The only victims are naïve retards who incriminate themselves
>>217679190I meant acquiring evidence in a manner forbidden by the penal code/code of law (or whatever the euros call it). It doen't have to be immoral. even if the underlying aim is legitimate, beating a confession out of someone through torture, spying & entrapment, unlawful searches, etc set a precedent for next cases to follow. It isn't circular, and I'm not arguing semantics over what becomes lawful if the hon. judge allows it. if violations produce results that are judicially accepted, said violations become repeatable offenses and erode the entire point of a "due process". Isn't this one of those liberties americans always talk about?
>>217676453it's just a disciplinary measure for the law enforcement do things right or you will just waste everyones time, it's not that hard to understand
>>217677130>It's your fault if your attempt to bring civilization to my rogue pack of rabid monkeys failed
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