What’s the logic here?
They weren’t “fine about it” but per international law the republics of Yugoslavia had “the right to secede” whereas the two autonomous zones did not.If ethnic majority is all you need to declare your own country now, I suppose Staten Island can declare independence because its majority Italian?
>>217681616They weren't fine with Montenegro seceding, it's just that Montenegroes are too powerful to oppose. Kosovese, on the other hand, are weak and could never be independent without outside support.
>>217681669>>217681709But if a land full of Serbs didnt want to be part of Serbia, why would a land full of Albanians want to be?
>>217681616daily reminder that the montenegro independence referendum won by like 51% of the vote
>>217681616Idk but I hope Vojvodina leaves next.
>>217681669>>217681741We view montenegrins as our bros and we respect their decisions. In other hand we dont really care about albanians. Most of serbs are compliant about us just giving them max autonomy would any paying for their shit. They should have huge exclusive power but should nominally be part of our land, be under our army (this one would be the hardest to pull without some form of union).
>>217681741>still thinks the elections are truthful Anon, succession won by by like 5% and it was obviously rigged. Global Jewry wanted Montenegro to be its own country, not the Montenegrins themselves
What is the Serbian master plan for when they do get Kosovo? Like what do they plan to do with Albanians, just deport them?
>>217681875Montenegrins didnt allow people born in serbia by montenegrin passport holders to vote. They still arent citizens of montenegro despite living there for whole life. But they allowed german and european diaspora to vote (mostly albanians and bosniaks). Few dozen of thousand people were prohibited from voting while they would be able to vote in any other european country
>>217681888Be friends with them and build a prosperous economy
>>217681888Serbs live in fairytale that they would be agreeing to large authonomy. Their main argument is: no country has given 14% of their landmass only to get ascession to some gay union o algo
>>217681993Montenegro also allows holders of all nonserbian passports to have montenegrin (and have voting rights) but holders of serbian passport cannot hold montenegrin. They have to ditch their passports to do so
>>217681669yes, any population has a right to self-determination. the illegallity of secession is unethical.
>>217681993>>217682097Doesn’t surprise me one bit. It’s all rigged. It’s like Trump said, these liberals have nothing to offer anyone unless you are a Jew, a woman, or brown. They have to lie, cheat, steal, and murder just to get ahead.
>>217682036>no country has given 14% of their landmass only to get ascession to some gay uniongermany gave up 25% of its territory to join the ecsc
>>217682169America tried that once and the civil war happened. So are you saying we Americans don’t have human rights?
>>217681741Kosovo is Serbian land, that Albanians are currently squatting on it is irrelevant, Kosovans are free to move back to Albania.
>>217682169Does the same right apply to the Confederate States of America?
>>217682173Its not rigged. We accepted the conditions. Thats why we dont question it. Also even Serbian orthodox church (repressents even most of national montenegrins) didnt tell its believers to vote against.You have: Serbs speaking serbian in montenegroEthnic montenegrins speaking serbians languague (like 14% of population)Montenegrins speaking montenegrin (like 10% of them are muslim). Most still go to serbian churchAnd like 10% of orthodox people dont believe in serb church but in montenegrin (uncanonical)You also have regular bosniaks, croats and albanians
>>217682365Cope. It’s rigged.
>>217682310yes, they had the right to secede. the union also had the right to wage a war of conquest against an immoral state.
>>217682365The fuck even is an "ethnic Montenegrin" and the fuck even is the Montenegrin language? The shit that goes on in the Balkans looks about as legit as Yorkshire secessionism
It's funny to me that the original sorbs migrated from modern day Czechia to settle in the worst possible region of the world
>>217682518Kosovo is an immoral mafia state objectively speaking
>>217682518But slavery was also legal in the Union
>>217682239yes, that's right. the american citizenry is cattle. the only rights we have are some token rights not to be interfered with (even those are waived if we use them in a way the government really doesnt like). we have no positive rights toward any kind of human decency; we dont even have a right to water.
>>217682518something tells me the American Union would have still waged that war even if the CSA had banned slavery before secedeing. See the annexation of Hawaii and the Philippines indeoendence war.
>>217682592Positive rights don’t exist
>>217682544>worst possible region of the worldOther than the fact it's landlocked there's nothing wrong with that area. If they had the montenegrin sea access it would've been a comfy country.They even get Danube access.
>>217682568yes but the purpose of the confederate state itself was explicity the preservation of the institution of chattel slavery. read the confederate president's inaugural address. there is a difference between a group that happens to do evil versus a group that was formed for the purpose of doing evilalso, why do yuros think a war 200 years ago is some "gotcha" when an american talks about self-determination? everyone who was alive then is dead. when france talks about autonomy within nato do americans bring up the unified command structure of napoleinic europe?
>>217682653no philosophy "exists." it's all abstract.
>>217682763It’s okay because they only did it to black people
>>217682763Maybe America should let Puerto Rico have a referendum on independence.
>>217682856https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Puerto_Rican_status_referendum
>>217682169>muh ethicsRetarded tranny
>>217682798So stop invoking unreal things
>>217682913no.
>>217682880why did the PIP boycott the referendum?
>>217682999They knew they would lose
>>217682518You see the contradiction there between giving a right to be a shithole and a right to spread revolution adn annex shitholes
Why does nobody in Balkans wants to be part of Serbia?
>>217682679There is something wrong with that area because you are surrounded by bigger tribes that will domineer you.>Ottomans>Austria-Hungary>Russia>GermanyJust nonstop conflict.
