Why do some yuros argue that russia and turkey aren't in yurop? do yuros just have really shitty schools? st. petersberg, moscow and constantinople are in yurop
>>217698434Its not about geography but culture
>>217698434Yuros used to argue that even Berlin isn't in Yurop
>>217698445russia is christian, the same language as eastern yurop and had a king who was a member of the bongaloid royal family and 1.5% of russians have aids from all the gay sex and global homo comes from yurop
>>217698501how and why?
>>217698510>russia is christianChristianity isn't an European religion. Besides most Russians are secular. There are a lot of others religions in Russia too, like Islam, Buddhism.>same language as eastern yuropSo English and Spanish speaking countries are European too?>and had a king who was a member of the bongaloid royal family Nobles never concerned themselves with ethnicity, Russian princes used to marry German princesses and it led to German Romanovs getting the throne.>HIV So Russia is more African than European
>>217698530Something about how Prussia is an oriental authoritarian culture. West = freedom and Catholicism.
>>217698579 (me)>West = freedom and CatholicismEurope*
>>217698434If Constaninople would be Greek nowadays, it would be Europe.
>>217698579>yurop >freedom>>217698574>no it's only culturally and geographically yuro and basically only interacts with yurop
Russia is a european country with a bit of land in Asia; Turkey is an asian country with a bit of land in Europe.
>>217698786Russian culture is mostly Asian after the Mongol yoke.
>>217698434turkey is not Europe. Russia is. Simple as.
>>217698434Europe starts at the Rhine and the Danube.
>>217698434Constantinople is, moscow and russia were far away swamps in scythian lands when the term Europe was made.
>>217698434It seems that there are 2 separate reasons.For Turkey, they have 1000 years of trying to invade Europe and subjugate Europeans, so no matter how much Turks want to self-identify the Euros themselves are excluding them based upon their identity. So European identity is in opposition to Turkish identity.For Russia, part of their country is clearly geographically in Europe but regardless of how Euros feel, enough Russians (leaders mostly) have tried hard to claim they're something different. So Russian identity is in opposition to European identity.Does that seem right?
>>217699445Literally the first division ever between Europe and Asia is from the ancient Greeks and was the water between Anatolia and the Balkans, which still is the baseline for the division. It has nothing to do with Turkey or Turks because they didn't even exist back then.
>>217699445>how much Turks want to self-identify the Euroswe don't want to self-identify as Euroswe have some self-hating people like anyone else but the majority of people don't think they're European
If Russia and Turkey are European then Baltics are Middle Eastern.
>>217698434Parts of Russia are in Europe, but you can't convince me that random moskal conquests at the caspain sea and Caucasus are suddenly European just because they said so
>>217698434Turks too brown. Russians too animalistic.
>>217698434Some people are retards and think geography is about people and identity politics. Russians are the biggest culprits here as they constantly deny that Russia is in Europe and that they're European because they've started to conflate "the West" with "Europe" and see themselves as something "anti-West" so they can't think of themselves as European. Turks go the other way in this and want to be seen as Europeans so they claim to be an European country despite their country being in Asia and their people coming from even further Asia.
>>217698510>russia is christianSo is Brazil>the same language as eastern yuropMexico also has an Euro language>and had a king who was a member of the bongaloid royal familyBongoloid royal family still rules over Canada, Australia and countless other shitholes
