>people revolt against corrupt government>Islamists take overWhy does this always go like this in muslim countries?
Because real sharia has never been tried
>>217707536Democracy does not work in Muslim countries, All the good Islamic countries are monarchies so they should stick with that.
>>217707692Indonesia is better than most of other muslims though
>>217707736Indonesia is a shithole, Malaysia is doing better.
>>217707769Malaysia is not absolute monarch either
>>217707943Is he wrong though?
a lot of middle eastern countries abolished their monarchies through military coups. this might have seemed like a good idea at the time, but the effects of this strategy have been terribile in the long run: they removed the only institution that could have worked independently of the military, which was essential for a proper, gradual democratization. on the other hand, the military fears losing power so it squashes any real opposition. result: islamists are always kept out of power and appear like poor innocent martyrs in the eyes of the population.what I'm saying is: let them rule. islamists need to see "lions" like jolani suck jewish and american cock before they decide to abandon their delusional victimism
>>217708060when you let them rule you get afghanistan
>>217707555This is unironically what they believe
they use commies, liberals, and all kinds of lefties who think of islam as a postcolonial reaction to western imperialism and then dump them hard in the aftermatch
>>217708133when you remove them forcibly they're welcomed back as victims of foreign interests and revolutionaires, and it's not like the muslim brotherhood is the same as the taliban anyway. if they ruled egypt for a while, people would realize that "islam is the solution" is a meme that works as long as they're the opposition to the status quo
>>217707536>revolution happen>no established, organized demogratic movement exist, need to shoddily find itself within months>established islamist groups already exist with support network, hierarchy and all (even if outlawed)>election happens>the organized, pre-existing islamist faction can mobilize all of its followers>the democratic side is still fractured and a mess, votes split between 4 different democratic parties>you now get a islamist ruling party
>>217707536because western powers fund them
>>217707536Unironically CIA niggas in a lot of cases, ISI niggas in some cases, Saudi capital in other cases.
>>217708133Couldn't have picked a worse example than Afghanistan.
>muh cuckmocracyEuroshit delusions due to their tiny continent always being divided, originating from Athenian cucks inventing a snowflake form of government by mixing oligarchy and plutocracy so they can stick it to Spartan chuds.Enlightened Monarchy or Benevolent Dictatorship are the only correct and universal forms of government which also stand against pisslam. Thankfully, more and more are waking up against this abrahamcuckery poison.
>>217707536You got that wrong, it was always islamists revolting against the government since the beginning, it's just that western media portrays them as westernized freedom fighters because the government is hostile to israel
>>217707943Yes, anyone with a mudslime epidemic will seethe about them.Completely reasonable.
>>217708060>t. TunisianThe Middle East was great under European control (1800s-1950s).m and secularized heavily - mostly as quality of life drastically improved, with islam coming back when the European powers left and quality of life plummeted.
>>217709231you must understand that assad gassing women and children and sisi tortuting people in his rape dungeons isn't a good look for secularism. middle easterners associate it with these dictatorial figures now and delude themselves into thinking that islam is the solution to all their problems
>>217707536Brown people is retarded. Some nordic countries might be able to make sharia works somehow if they tried.
>American puppet government gets overthrown by coalition of Islamist and leftist groups>as soon as the CIA realizes they can't reassert control they give infinite support to the Islamists to stop da commies from taking overmany such cases!
>The Middle East was great under European control (1800s-1950s).m and secularized heavily - mostly as quality of life drastically improved,The sheer illiterate ignorance in this bait is staggering. Not even worth a (You).
>>217707536islamists are populist and popular among the common man most muslims want a pan arabic / islamic caliphate they dont give a shit about secularism
>>217709231who cares? let them make their own choices
>>217709140>the government is hostile to israelwhich one? no arab govt is anti israel they're all pro israel puppets>>217709108so when you toppling your shia heretic regime?
>>217710229It's not gonna happen because these people are retarded and coward cucks who have been throughly Americanized.I'm gonna leave this helplessly sinking ship and leave for Italy. These people deserve nothing good and all the bad things that continue to happen to them.
>be dumb urban liberal>think everyone else is like you too>chafe under corrupt dictator>get rid of him>implement democracy, looking forward to having lively debates with your fellow countrymen on the merits of a progressive versus flat tax system for capital gains>turns out most of your countrymen are actually barely-literate inbred retards who are just going through the motions of life while waiting for the armageddon they were promised in their holy bookMany such cases
>>217710229>no arab govt is anti israel they're all pro israel puppetsIndeed, not that they all got arab spring'd they are
>>217710502>notnow*
>>217707692True. Or a Saddam type dictator.
