most fucked up demographics in the world?
What are Caspian languages
>Daniel bait from the previous containment threadMental illness.
>>217739747turks fear ethnic diversity>>217739783a group of northwestern iranic languages (which also includes kurd and baloch) spoken along the caspian sea. i think they're mostly being replaced by persian
>>217739747This one is hard to beat, reee karens
Ethiopia is the winner for this
>>217739747>caspian languagesinterestingi didn't know that those guys got their own branch
>>217739827My mom speaks Karen
>>217739827Is this the Land of Eternal Civil War?
>>217739895Sean*
>>217739827At least they have 1 major one
>>217739783It's like basque but in Asia
>>217739783This is being generous. Dialects change from town to town which are just fifteen minutes away from each other and there are loads of them.
>>217740086lankaran should be iranian
>>217739747Iran can be either a feudal monarchy or a theocracy. A nation state is impossible there, because it would fuel national movements among dozens of its minorities.
>>217739747god I wish
>>217741193You can always immigrate there.
>>217739747It's sad that Iranians and you too Anatolians are mudslims. You would be normal if you weren't arabophile mudslims.
FYI, to all the foreigners in this thread. 90% of the population is Shia and almost every ethnic group is genetically close It’s like taking all the meme languages that used to be spoken in France and Italy and saying theyre all different ethnic groups
>>217741074Iranian ethnic minority separatism is as fringe as White Nationalism in the US. They’re meme movements that are vocal online but pussy shit irl.And the most separatist ethnic groups are the Iranic Sunni ones (Kurd and Baloch).
>>217741261...what?
>>217741423Because the current shiite theocracy binds shiite peoples together with a single religious identity. If the policy changes and persian nationalism takes center stage, this could trigger national movements among minorities.
>>217741514“Persian” nationalism is a meme term that butthurt belters from hostile countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel say, Iran is a very civic nationalist country similar to the Arab states of the Sykes Picot agreement and btw, the guy who started the Persianization policies idea in the first place was Ahmad Kasravi who was an ethnic Azerihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmad_Kasravi
>>217741514Also, most the ethnic groups mingle in the cities and intermarriage is extremely highI’m literally from 4 different ethnic groups (Kurdish/Azeri on dad’s side, Isfahani Persian and Qashqai on my mom’s side). I’m not unique in thisThe only reason Persian is prioritized as a language is cause it has the most literary material and is the most utilitarian as a lingua Franca. If Kurdish had more literature it could have been it instead
>>217741593Persian nationalism may be weak now, but over time it could radicalize and gain strength. Who knows? >the guy who started the Persianization policies idea in the first place was Ahmad Kasravi who was an ethnic AzeriThis is a classic. Napoleon was corsican.
the bad part about iran having many ethnic groups is the moment the IR falls israel and the uae will jump on it to balkanize it
>>217741816But it doesn’t exist, being “Persian” is just some label certain Iranian people (especially Jews) use in Los Angeles to distance themselves from their home country. I personally don’t use it.Probably half the self described “”””Persian””” people you meet are part or full Azeri because most of us come from Tehran and Tehran is like 1/3rd Azeri. Also, people tend to identify more with their city than being “””Persian”””. A “””Persian””” from Tehran is much closer to a “””Turk””” from Ardabil than he is to a “””Persian””” from Kish Island
>>217739860It's going to be extinct in a few decades.thanks your people flooding in to our lands and breed like literal rabbitAnd im not gonna mention kurds and persians
>>217741935are turks moving to the caspian lowlands? why?
>>217741875Closest thing they could get is turning the Kordestan province into an autonomous region like Northern Iraq (i don’t really care if that happens). Azeris are too assimilated and intermarried, Arabs are too tiny and incompetent, and Baloch are too isolated.
>>217741935fuck timmy gon do
>>217741935>your peopleاولن اون استانبولیه هیچ ارتباطی نداره با آذری های ایران، دومن، چرا فحش میدی به ما؟ مگه تهرانی ها زر زدن وقتی که شمالی ها اومدن تهران؟
>>217741514I really hope one day we can get the balkan treatment but its now impossible thanks to that safavid faggotI would literaly do anything to not hear someone speak Turkish or kurdish in front of me Fucking hate them, no offence i know you guys don't like iranians either >>217741984drought and dog shit economy
>>217742107>اولن اون استانبولیه هیچ ارتباطی نداره با آذری های ایران، دومن، چرا فحش میدی به ما؟ مگه تهرانی ها زر زدن وقتی که شمالی ها اومدن تهرانAsk average azari if they feel closer to anatolians or iranians and you will get your answer And im not poorsian nationalist either For me isfahan and tabriz are sameNot my people, not my land
>>217739747>dravidianSHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
>>217742285
>>217742196تو داری راجع به بعضی کسخل های طرفدار تیم تراکتور سازی صحبت میکنی. هیچ وقت نرفتی تبریز. عموم پر سال رفت اونجا https://youtu.be/EFivEpH4ATo?si=5CCzPbmvnPWdGl72
>>217742332من برام مهم نیست اگه خواهان کشور خودشون باشن راستش.سرزمین خودشونه، آینده خودشونهمشکل من اینکه خودشون درباره ما همچین فکری نمیکننچیزی که دارم میگم اینکه ادامه این روند یعنی نابودی مردم من، من حاضرم ایران فدرال یا نابود بشه ولی گیلک ها ومازندرانی و ها تالش ها تو سرزمین خودشون باشنتو سال هاست فکر کنم نبودی، نمیدونی چخبره
>>217739747
>>217742403بیشتر تجزیهطلبها فقط توی اینترنت شلوغ میکنن. من فکر میکنم چون تو خیلی توی اینترنت میچرخی، اینطور به نظرت میاد که انگار کل کشور میخواد تجزیه بشه، در حالی که واقعاً آدمهای عادی اینجوری نیستن.تو واقعاً فکر میکنی مازندرانیها یه نژاد کاملاً جدا از بقیه ایرانیها هستن؟ یعنی فقط چون مثلاً توی جنگل زندگی میکنن و هواشون یهکم خنکتره؟ اجداد شما از مادها میان که همریشه با کردها و آذریها هستن
>>217742142>drought and dog shit economyso they're kurds and azeris fleeing the surroundings of lake urmia? why don't they move to tabriz? isn't east azerbaijan relatively industrialized? why are they moving to the caspian?
>>217742403حقیقتش رو بخوای، من خودم خیلی وطنپرستِ ملیگرا نیستم. ولی واقعبینانه که نگاه میکنم، به نظرم این کشور عملاً قابل تجزیه نیست؛ مخصوصاً چون هر کشور کوچیکی که ازش جدا بشه، توان ادارهی خودش رو نداره. ایران اونقدر از نظر جمعیتی و فرهنگی درهمتنیده شده که دیگه جداسازی معنا نداره. شاید صد سال پیش این موضوع قابل تصور بود، چون قومیتها و اقلیتها از هم فاصلهی بیشتری داشتن، ولی الان تقریباً همه شبیه تهرانیها شدن.اگه بخوام صادق باشم، تنها سناریویی که شاید بشه تصورش کرد اینه که استان کردستان وضعیتی شبیه شمال عراق پیدا کنه. من شخصاً هم مشکلی با کردها ندارم. از نظر فرهنگی، کردها تفاوت بیشتری با شمالیها، تهرانیها و اصفهانیها دارن تا مثلاً آذریها. آذریها خیلی بیشتر با بقیهی مردم ایران ازدواج میکنن و قاطی شدن.حتی کردهای کرمانشاه هم خیلی به بقیه نزدیک هستن. به نظرم توی ایران، شیعه بودن خیلی مهمتر از زبونه. مثلاً فارسهای جنوب که سنی هستن، از نظر فرهنگی تفاوتهای زیادی دارن و از بعضی جهات شباهتشون به عربهای خلیج فارس بیشتره
>>217742634Chiapas and Oaxaca people move to Northern Mexico for economic reasons too
>>217742546>>217742727south azerbaijan will be liberated sorry not sorry
>>217739747No armenian?
>>217742821Are you sure? >inb4 you post some meme page from Twitter/tiktok or soccer hooligans holding a banner
>>217742865They’re an almost exclusively urban population, except for a handful of villages
>>217739747Is it actually this diverse or are the maps just exagerated bby westoids in case America ever needs an excuse to spread freedom there? Hard to imagine that by now they couldn't just force the majority to be Persian speakers the same way Italy lost its regional languages (no they were not ""dialects"")
>>217739747Sex map
>>217743126Half those groups are just pseudo “Persians” with some meme dialect that’s mutually intelligible with Persian. Azeris are just Turkified Iranians who are highly urban and intermarry, same with Qashqais. Only Turkmen (1%), Arabs (2%), Sunni Kurds (Less than 10%) and Baloch (2%) are culturally and/or genetically very different
>>217739747Half of Afghanistan and Tajikistan speak Persian, yet Iran can't even get half of its country to speak Persian. What went so wrong?
