Luther focused on the gospel and its message about grace (also hinted about catholic priests being boy fuckers in the 1500s already). Focus os on Jesus. This causes lutheran socities be way more universalists, egalitarian than other societies.Calvinists on the other hand focused way more on God the Father and old testament. This caused them to be way more about Gods judgement and how God judges and sees people. Calvinists think some people are destined to go to hell and often see success in wordly life as a hint that they are going to heaven.Catholics on the other hand are just pagans. Happens in your country?
I'm an Episcopalian, we are neither Lutheran, Calvinist, nor Catholic.
>>217818346rent free
>>217818419>SAAAR BITCH LASAGNA YOU ARE RENT FREEthis is what Luther saw in Rome by the way
>>217818346Calvinism is an evil heresy
>>217818346Now say it without a Jewish cock in your mouth
>>217818346Majority of christians today are brown and black, and they're gonna steer that ship towards an even browner destination
>>217818346t.
>>217818346Calvinism dooms people by saying some are pre destined to go to Hell. This is antithetical to Christs teachings that anyone can be saved. Calvinism is heretical. Luther wanted to reform the Catholic church instead of leaving it. If he saw modern Protestantism he would have never done anything.
>>217818900>some superstitious peasants in some third world country take a procession too seriously and? the church is very clear when it says that worship is for god only. should I reply with clips of brazilian protestants saying made up words through the power of the holy spirit?
why does god need human worship
>>217818900Then he went back to Germany and schismed so he could see this.
>>217819407>third world countrythat is Spain and if its a third world country than look at youLuther saw that in Rome. Idol worship.
>>217819569Because you're going to burn in hell if you don't worship him so he's actually trying to save you o algo
>>217818346I am a Catholic but I sympathise with calvinism far more than lutheranism because predestination is rooted in reason and theology. It also may be possibly due in part because i was raised Anglican, which is far more pro-reformed than lutheranism, but i think thats reaching. Aquinas, Scotus & Augustine all affirm predestination, although people, Catholics included, are very reluctant to accept it because it makes God and his reasoning much less easy to understand than if humans had complete free will, as in, God did not create a set course of history for the world to abide by. The way I see it is that God, since he is all powerful, and by extension all good, can do whatever he wants. When you consider how depraved, subhuman and evil the average human is, it is proof of his absolute mercy that he does not condemn every single one of us to hell. As for why he allowed us to develop this way? It is a divine mystery, given that God, in his infinitude, cannot possibly be fully understood by the finite and profoundly retarded mind of man. Although it could be argued that for the non elect to burn eternally in fire is just, because everything God does is just, because God is justice itself. I should read up on this topic more thoughever
>>217819837>designs people just to go to hellNot really merciful is it
>>217820156If God really did that He would be evil, good thing that God didn't, and that He isn't evil
>>217820235I agree thus Calvinism is false.
>>217819837God hates the world because the world is evil and was made by the Devil. Repent or perishhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9o1X_TNXWAhttps://x.com/GODHATESTHWORLD
>>217820156it is merciful to let them live on the earth, even just for a while instead of sending them straight to hell. It is merciful that he does not send all of us to hell instead of just some
pagans are worshipers of the yearly weather forecast
>>217818980The thing that doesn't quite add up about jews is that they're supposedly waiting for a Messiah in the future yet only follow the Torah as their source of law. The Torah doesn't say anything about a Messiah, that's the Talmud and the Talmud was made after Herod's temple. Jewishness can't be both waiting for a Messiah to come and adhering to a legalistic tradition that makes no mention of a Messiah at all. What an absolutely bizarre people, there's 0 eschatology in the old testament yet the promise of a Messiah to come is a, if not THE, primary descriptor of Judaism.
It’s the wierdest thing how regular lutheranism have been cropped together with insane american evangelicalism as some kind of catch all protestantism. I chalk it up to catholic psyop
>>217824970explain to the folx at home what lutheranism and evangelicalis is
>>217818346>This causes lutheran socities be way more universalistsStrongly disagree. The Catholic Church is far more universalist in its hierarchy and reach, whereas protestantism of any kind invariably leads to smaller, more splintered churches, none of which can aspire to reaching more than tiny communities (which often turn into echo chambers). This is precisely what protestantism has been in America for ages now (e.g. Southern Baptism being a separate entity from Baptism), and that trend only seems to be accelerating, with countless synods currently undergoing schisms (largely along retarded political lines, as you'd expect of Americans).The more egalitarian aspects of Nordic cunts are also comparatively recent, compared to the healthcare and education institutions which Catholic countries enjoyed far earlier. If anything, the logical conclusion is that Nordics became egalitarians as a result of their widespread atheism and their 20th century histories, rather than their religious heritage.
>>217825052evangelicals arent one religion its interfaith protestantism. There are some of them here as well, but not a lot but they are usually some kind of pro-israel conservatives who are usually creationists etc.lutheranism splintered off catholism but at least in Sweden / Finland it remained structly pretty much the same and it has way more liturgy and structure to it than protestantism usually haslutherans differ from catholics with no pope, bit different idea on justification albeit its very much the same but not really in practice as well. lutherans read the bible more since the idea was always about getting people to read the bible in their own language
>>217825395you can call it chicken or egg problem, but nordic countries were always like this one way or another
I'm not Christian but I respect Lutherans I read a biography of Luther and I relate to him a lot as someone with OCD, he seems much more of a real person than Calvin does who comes off as an absolute psycho
>>217825417>>217824970I don't consider evangelicals to be Christians at all, Evangelicalism is a Jewish heresy.
>>217825417i have read what you wrotei refuse to infuse the way of thinkingi hope you did too before you wrote itdont be like that ever, thats my primebut when shit comes to sihv, you as the poster with a finnish flag above, what is it ot you personally, the winter celebrations of whatever the fuck , the needities and commodities that followhuillleeyhhhule yuhle or whatever the fuck the coookhhh or chochhhh faggoths pronounce itit was there thousands of years ago, the winter cheer, its here now, but what is it to you personaly?for me it is success, yes we have food to survive the winteryes if this continues, we will survive many wintersayes we will frolic in the winterslets treck the snow and celebrate furtherlet God see us how much we love changebut none of you gnord mongoloid faggots come closewhy is that?you have more dieties than we ever had, you have more reason to celebrate than we can ever hope for in next 300 years, yet you americant and community and anxiety and depress and supress and vicctimise youreselves for absolute 0 reasonwhere is life
>>217825971The most common Christian denomination in the US is Anglican. After James VI and I took the throne the Puritans saw him as a Catholic transplant and left for the colonies. Trying to hone in on some particular sect of Christianity in the US doesn't change the fact that they're the idiots that didn't stay in England and fight the civil war in the 1640s. It's wild to see someone from the UK bitch about various abominations of Christianity in the US rather than calling them cowards for not fighting for their schizo beliefs when the time came up. Although a good number of the original people in the colonies were prisoners who were sympathetic to the Church of England so it wasn't entirely voluntary.
>>217818346Yes, Catholicism is only for subhumans like nigs or Poles
As I get older, the more I start to realize how metaphysically shallow Christianity is.
>>217818346>Catholics on the other hand are just pagansMost of my cunt's pagans practices were just merged with the Catholic Church's lens.
>>217818346The Catholic Church is the one true church founded by Christ, Luther was quite literally insane. This is not up for debate. Every single thing wrong with the Western world can be traced back to Luther.
