whitey can never have nationalism because they aren't as collectivist as east asians
nationalism only works when you have a benevolent dictatorship government that incentivizes good prosocial behavior and brutally punishes antisocial behavior.

>>217831885
>nationalism sounds good on paper
Does it? I mean, it did make a lot of sense during the decline of empire in the 19th and 20th centuries, but with contemporary global economic integration it is entirely a barrier to progress. In fact we are rather seeing the consequences of nationalism not having been abandoned on the dust pile of history right now.

>>217831943
is my cunt the only modern example of having a benevolent dictator? :O

OP either weighs 50kg or 150kg

Nationalism makes a lot of sense when you're part of an empire keeping your people down .
Then you free yourself and start doing retarded shit, like trying to purify the country, claim the maximum ammount of land based on where your people live and try to become the kind of empire you abolished.
Attaturk was the only one with the vision to have self restrained nationalism, even if he didn't get it all right.

>>217832037
t. skinhead retard
I'd rather be a hanania tier gigaliberal than ally with normgroid aussies

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>>217831974
>Does it?
Yes it does. Nationalism promotes a variety of prosocial behavior
>In fact we are rather seeing the consequences of nationalism not having been abandoned on the dust pile of history right now
Care to elaborate on these consequences?

>>217831943
>benevolent dictatorship
Doesn't exist. Humans don't work like that.

>>217832097
Failures of economic coordination, economic stagnation and increasing costs that are relayed to the now shrinking middle class.
>Nationalism promotes a variety of prosocial behavior
Sure, but it is no longer necessary as both transnational and international solidarity are existing phenomena.

Nationalism is a good way at maintaining above replacement fertility rates. If a people lose confidence in their national and historical destiny, what would compel them to pass on that destiny? That's why one of the oldest maxims in the Hebrew Bible is to "Be fruitful, and multiply".

>>217832169
>Sure, but it is no longer necessary as both transnational and international solidarity are existing phenomena.
That's not a thing. Look at how easily Moscow traded Soviet internationalism for Russian centralism. Or the Sino-Soviet split. Even the German communists had to separate themselves from the Leninist project in order to appeal to their countrymen.

>>217832280
>an example of nationalism is a pre-nationalism religious text
verdict: pofound mental retaedation

>>217831885
i went outside like you said didnt see a single goy. what the fuck are you talking about

>>217831885
Nationalism is a cancer and a weapon of mass destruction.
It attract the worst lumpen scum and teams them up with the most soulless psycho gangster milioners to do white collar crime at best and just murder peopel at worst,and it dosent stop at material destruction either but subverts culture,social interactions,mental health,relationships everything.
It leaves nothing behind but poverty and death.
Evil shit.

>>217832415
shahar I kneel

>>217832415
maybe that's why nationalism works so well in your cunt
no goys

>>217832020
The chud élite admire you

>>217831885
We killed our identity intentionally to become multicultural bioslop like Amerimutts

>>217832389
The Hebrew Bible is the genesis of nationalism. It chronicles the Israelites' struggle to free itself from the yoke of multi-national & ethnic empire across the entire text. From Pharaonic Egypt, to the Neo-Assyrians, to the Neo-Babylonians, to the Seleukids, and after all that, the Romans.

https://www.yoramhazony.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/does_the_bible_have_a_political_teaching.pdf

>>217831885
I see what nationalist turns people into and immediately rule it out.
It's behavior and thinking that's best kept in the third world with all the other violent and unintelligent shit.

>>217832169
>Failures of economic coordination, economic stagnation and increasing costs that are relayed to the now shrinking middle class
Care to elaborate how nationalism leads to these?
>Sure, but it is no longer necessary as both transnational and international solidarity are existing phenomena
These do exist but they have never been as strong as national solidarity, and will never be

>>217832540
>It's behavior and thinking that's best kept in the third world with all the other violent and unintelligent shit.
Funny that, because you keep importing those same third world unintelligent tribalistic nationalist, thereby forcing many in your own native population to engage in tribalistic nationalism as well because otherwise they'll just lose and go extinct.

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>>217832432
>but then you remember that people are goyim when you actually go outside
but then i went outside and there was nothing like that. so op is telling straight up lies why should i believe one thing if i saw another thing for the lie it is with my own eyes

>>217832626
>you keep importing
I don't keep doing a fucking thing. Our elites who want cheap labor are to blame for that chaos.
We could all be normal and civilized if they weren't able to burn society for their greed.

>>217832626
The comparison on national allegiance between Han Singaporeans and Han Australians is truly astonishing.

>>217832714
Elaborate? I dont particularly care nor pay attention to how my ethnic diaspora act in western lands.

>>217832747
You'll find out when the Formosan question is pressed upon them. I think that will be when multiculturalism is really put to the test in this country. I don't see it staying the course in that event.

>>217831885
Everything looks good on paper, but when you put it into practice it devolves because people are goyim not cogs in the machine

>>217832675
Ignore that Singaporetard. He posts in every thread. I don't think he has a life. Watch him screech and skreel at this post, too.

>>217832020
Supposidly Ghadaffi was quite good for the country for the first decade or so. Which is often the case with dictators. See Putin. 00s was genuinly great for Russia

Nationalism is good if you are a developed country or a country that lifted its people's social status up where you have the right to be proud of. The most proud countries are actually you guys, Americans support Americans, British support the British, Australians support Australians so on and on... not shithole countries where everyone is trying to constantly kill each other and leave like mine.

>>217832169
>Failures of economic coordination, economic stagnation and increasing costs that are relayed to the now shrinking middle class

All of these are caused by a lack of nationalism, leading to selfish behaviour and fifth column hostile foreigners like jews and indians in positions of economic power.

>>217832389
Nationalism is a biological instinct, it wasn't invented you mong

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>>217832650
lucky you I went outside on saturday night and didn’t hear a single word in jewish and saw crowds of indians and africans

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>>217832834
I suppose you're implying they'll support China over Taiwan + AUKUS?

>>217833956
There's at least 2 of us (3 if you count that Indonesian), possibly more.

I've only commented on this thread, the Japanese idol group thread and the Gaijin one (which I've made lol). The other dude is on this thread as well, some of the SG flags ITT is not (me).

It's currently holiday/winter break season here, it's more or less a national custom to take vacation leave during the last week of the year, so you're probably going to be seeing my flag quite a bit until the New Year. Apologies if it annoys you.

>>217831885
I'm afraid of the increasing surveillance in these shitholes, but normies will eat up everything from the state propaganda that plays into nationalism

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>>217831885

Our nationalism still fairly works THOUGHBEIT

>>217832130
That's exactly how humans work.

>>217831885
Trvke

New world countries attempt to form identities (like America in the 1950's) and then the Jews freak out and import infinity browns to muck it up

Nationalism itself is an attempt and movement to form a cohesive unifying identity out of an identityless, amoebic patchwork of identities. And it's been highly successful many times. Some would say it's the only thing that's ever successful.

The only successful communist revolutions, for instance, had a nationalist component. No one fights for an idea, or "global trade" or whatever. They fight for a people, their people, and if you create a new "people" that most can gather around you get nationalists willing to wage your wars. Otherwise you don't. The greatest trick neolibs ever pulled was turning "communism" into a lazy globalist religious movement, it has no teeth now.

In history, German nationalism was formed out of hundreds of little HRE principalities, Italian nationalism out of a patchwork of lordships and kingdoms, British nationalism out of united Scottish, Welsh, Cornish, English, and Irish identities, and Spanish nationalism at the end of a sword after Asturias freed Castile/Leon/Galicia and Castile united them all under one banner. Nationalism works.

>>217840197
It works up until the moment one starts asking questio what exactly is being defended and when the answer is "the nation" you realize that it's like a self-serving ideology entire goal of which is to defend itself.
Questions like why and whether it's worth it are intentionally left unanswered.
Or they get answered in a very simple manner
>because it's better than something else
with something else being other nations or ideologies and you know what follows after that.

>>217840197
Nationalism as an idea, cosmovision and practice seems to be much stronger than either liberalism or communism.

>>217831885
Trvke