as an older galician, ever since speaking in galician was legalized at the end of the dictatorship and galician nationalists wrote a dictionary with new language rules, I really struggle to understand galician anymore.nobody talked like that before the dictionary, the rules they invented are completely made up, and nowadays every gen z speaks like that, and I don't understand shithappens in your country?
you're spanish, places like galacia, catalonia, basque are about as real as independent michocan, sinaola, and sonoracalifornian spanish is closer to it's own language than any peninsular european spanish dialect, and californians are all gay
>>217855610>galacia
>>217855575>galician nationalists wrote a dictionary with new language rules>the rules they invented are completely made upeles são castelhanos zainichi senhoooor
>>217855610Being under a meme jurisdiction doesn't erase local cultures, the basque region for example speaks some weird language found nowhere else in yurop
im sorry to hear that broit makes me sad knowing languages are dying out across the world how many people speak galician in daily life?
>>217855679in fact, most galicians used spanish words that the galician nationalists hate, because they say spanish oppresses galician identity, so they said those aren't correct galician words anymore and substitute them with portuguese words that nobody had heard until recently.every time I use a traditional galician word nowadays zoomers make fun of me and tell me that I'm a uneducated dumbass who doesn't know galician>>217855718depends on the city. galicians nationalists made it mandatory to use galician on universities, and that's almost the only place where it's talked now
>>217855575They spicfied Galician. It's not Galician anymore
>>217855777>substitute them with portuguese words that nobody had heard until recently.holy based
>>217855777>>217856429>galegos say carro and grávidathey chose civilization
>>217856441>>217856429the first time I head the word estoxo for pencilcase and cemiterio for graveyard I was deeply confused.and they called me a chud when I told them that's not galician
>>217856477>cemiteriowhat do you call it?
>>217856477I don't have a dog in this fight but you should be calling the shots since the language was born in Galicia. Just my two cents.
>>217856494cementerioI know it's almost the same, but if I write it like that people laugh at me and tell me I misspelled the word
>>217856519in the middle ages, galician and portuguese were the same language, that's why galician nationalists turn to portuguese when they have no idea how a word is supposed to be in galician
>>217856521lmaogot any more?
>>217856557avogado and abogado (lawyer)in spanish the letter b and v are pronounced the same, so if you write the wrong letter people think you are are a stupid hick
Galicia no existe. Es un meme
>>217856622>high testosteronelmao sigma males think this is pejorative
>>217856622>proclive a la violenciaYo soy soyboy
>>217855575portuguese has negligible arabic influence unlike spanish so that's a good thing boomer
I known some galicians irl, visited then in their regiongreat guys>>217856622>capacidades comunicativas mermadas, testosterona alta, alcohólico, proclive a la violência
>>217855575bo día, amigo
>>217855575>>217855777I'm not sure if this is proper Galician or modern Galician with the new rules:https://youtube.com/watch?v=rU0u4FBYzrsBut I unironically understand it better than certain Azorean Portuguese dialects:https://youtube.com/watch?v=u7efyRaaTUU
>>217855575>galician nationalists>>217855777>most galicians used spanish words that the galician nationalists hate, because they say spanish oppresses galician identityI knew about Catalans but not these guys. Why does Spain have so regionalists? Spain unified 650 years ago
>>217856899imagine how based it would be if all 50 US states hated each other and half of them had unique languages which sound the same to outsiders
>>217856620this carries for some words in portuguese, like taverna - taberna, sovaco - sobaco, assoviar - assobiar, covarde - cobarde
>>217856899Europe has identity. Canadians and Americans don't hate themselves because they didn't exist 300 years ago, so they have no shared history among regions>>217856897>galiza>estudosthat's zoomergalician
>>217856899>>217856910It's just bizarre to me. France for example beat the shit out anyone who spoke anything other than Parisian French during and after the French Revolution. In Spain it seems like the opposite happened
>>217856910That's the current reality.
>>217856917this phenomena is called betacism, lolhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betacism
>>217856956>Canadians and Americans don't hate themselves because they didn't exist 300 years ago, so they have no shared history among regionsNah Quebec has a big chip on its shoulder. Western Canadian provinces also disdain Ontario and the east. Newfoundland joined Canada under shady circumstances and is largely ignored by the federal government so there's probably some disappointment there but I'm not too well versed in Atlantic Canadian history. I'm sure Americans can give you similar stories about the relationships between different states
>>217856975we have like 5 words that people disagree on and it's mostly food items also your map is from 2003, soda has been steadily gaining ground since then
>>217855575It happens with many previously uncodified languages.Hawaiian has the same thing happen where the elderly don’t understand the new generation because they speak “college hawaiian”.
>>217856975>saved the thumbnail awardhow common is to see someone naturally saying "Soda-Pop" instead of just Soda or Pop? I learned to call it that because of the Hey Good Lookinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bntn1mLP_b4
>>217857056>how common is to see someone naturally saying "Soda-Pop"It is common if you are from the Greatest Generation.
>>217855575Not quite the same, but unlike most of the UK, people in Liverpool seem to be developing a stronger accent over time. I feel like their dialect is just descending into gibberish - Gen Z scousers sound completely different than someone like The Beatles (working class lads from 1960s Liverpool).
>>217857103this, it just sounds old timey and no regions use it. not very common, if somebody uses that all the time i would assume they are autistic or esl. however i do use it sometimes to sound old timey on purpose just for fun (autistic)
>>217857103I'd figure it would be more prominent than that since it's more of a catch allPokémon uses Soda Pop, as well as that one Kpop movie
>>217857128just to make it clear, Kpop Demon Hunters is an American movie.
>>217855575My paternal grandfather was basque and was born in the early 1900s. Learned spanish in Vitoria-Gasteiz but 1st language was euskera. I'm curious as to how the standardization of basque affected the language, and I assume this akin to other iberian languages as well (Galician, Catalan, etc). I'm aware standardization of a language effectively neuters dialects, and now the internet has basically killed many. Anyway thank you for reading my blogpost.
>>217857158>My paternal grandfather was basquebro get a spanish passport so you can travel Europe with ease
>>217857214In the process of it, it's just taken about half a year despite having sunked a few thousand. Now with Christmas I can only assume I won't get any action until mid January and by then I'll be busy with med school so no time to go to an embassy (which there is none where I study).
>>217855575>>217857048>>217857158I read from a few places that similar things are happening in Ireland, that older rural Irish-speakers and younger urban Irish-speakers struggle to understand each other.
>>217858085btw I was half joking when I made this thread. it is true that rural old galicians speak differently than young urban ones, but we understand each other just fine. the difference may be a few letters like cemiterio and cementerio, but unless you're retarded you can understand just fine.I just feel frustrated that those who claim to protect the galician language are destroying it
>>217858085>younger urban Irish speakersHow many of these are still present? Irish seems like a dying language, at least amongst the young.
>>217858186I'm not quite sure. I read somewhere years ago that while Irish is indeed rare, especially in urban areas, it's considered trendy and culturally conscious or something for upper-class college-educated people to speak Irish.
>>217856897I was in são miguel earlier this year and it actually feels weird there,they are my people in my country but I was surrounded by a weird ass language that everyone was speaking that I couldnt understand anything.
>>217857056quite common with old people, otherwise only occasionally. I say it sometimes because I'm used to it from my great grandparents, but typically just say soda (although thinking of it, to me 'soda' only works at the start, like 'soda can' and ending has to be pop, like 'a can of pop')
Bon día senhor galego, eu seu de mexico, voçe pode entender meu sotaque? Eu nunca assistei na escola de portugues en a minha vida pero eu estou falando vostra lingua galaica-portuguesa. Minho avó era de origem galego e su apellido era Barbosa. Ele era muito branco e su mãe tenia os olhos azuis. Eu seu de origen Galego?
>>217855575>speaking in galician was legalized at the end of the dictatorshipIt is a lie that during the Franco regime it was not possible to speak Galician (or Catalan or Basque). Editorial Galaxia was founded in 1950. It was created by the writer Ramón Otero Pedrayo and from its beginnings it only publishes books in Galician. The first Galician Literature Day was celebrated on May 17, 1963, organized by the Royal Galician Academy and dedicated to Rosalía de Castro. Twelve Galician Literature Days were celebrated until Franco's death, all of them dedicated to authors writing in Galician. In 1970, Andrés do Barro released the song "O tren" in Galician. It reached number one on the Spanish charts. This singer from Ferrol had three other Galician songs that reached number one on the Spanish charts during the Franco regime: "Corpiño xeitoso" (1970), "San Antón" (1971), and "Pandeirada" (1971).https://youtu.be/CUAOwBknH5I?list=RDCUAOwBknH5I
>>217855575boludo como todo gallego
