Why don't they want to be mothers anymore?
women never wanted to be mothersthe number of abortions proves itwo-man is not accuratejust call them abortionpeople
>>218210593Why don't men want to be fathers
Women do not wish to revert to being child-bearing machines who obey their husbands and their husbands' parents.
>>218210660because i didn't get to fuck around like every single woman did so until i do why should I get babytrapped by some used up roastie
>>218210660I'm autistic and I don't want my hypothetical children to suffer like I did
>>218210652>PeopleThe term is abortion demonsAnd you have the wrong answerOP asks about now, you give an answer about now and then say neverWomen used to be mostly human before Marxism
>>218210593>>218210660Everyone is poor now and nobody can afford housing. Most of us were also raised online and sheltered by our parents who also taught us nothing so we don't feel like adults.
>>218210593Plot twist: her mother would’ve been the same as her if she had the same environment and comfort.>>218210660What’s the benefit from it. Easier to just donate to a sperm bank or just pump and dump
>>218210593Because they're retarded. No, that's literally just it, they're fucking retarded.
>>218210805You need to be 6'4" athletic and 140iq to donate to a sperm bank
>>218210749>Women used to be mostly humanNo.
>>218210660I want to be a father but not a husband. My dream scenario is I impregnate some girl and dies shortly after delivering it.
>>218210593>>218210660infantilization of society, because of retarded helicopter parents and big government
>>218210593people live longer nowhundreds of years ago people got married at 14 because they'd probably be dead at 40
>>218210844Yes. Europeans will do anything but blame Marx and actually read what their ancestors wrote.
>>218210660Instinct, anon. If in this society and economy you are still wanting to be a father (or even just a mere, married to a woman) then you're dumb and you have retarded level of survival instinct in your head.
When asked what era they like best,men would likely name various periods such as the feudal age or the pioneer era.Women, however, would answer the present or the future.
>>218210660It's not like I can even find a gf
>>218211009I watched “ The Good, The Bad and The Ugly “ last night. I would say the Wild West. Even though it lasted for only like 30 years. What a cool time period. Modernity sucks ass.
>>218210593Gender wars in South Korea are so fucked, Christ
>>218210999>If in this society and economy you are still wanting to be a father (or even just a mere, married to a woman) then you're dumb and you have retarded level of survival instinct in your head.And that's just cope. People have been struggling since forever, maybe even worse off than most of us ever have. If women weren't gatekeeping us from familyhood/relationships then now would be a good time as any.
>>218210660I actually doI want to marry and have children
>>218211355people breed when they feel safe. These days you see men choose to be alone because they dont feel safe, whether they dont feel financially safe, they have constant pressure at work, or maybe they think that the present day women or the women from their generation arent good enough to be a mother, or simply just any other form of doubt that leads them to feel unsafe and prefer to be alone
>>218211355>People have been struggling since foreverMaybe if you live in a thirdiestan shithole. Life's been pretty good in our neck of the woods since about 1850 up until the present day. Hell, we had an almost limitless homesteading migration Westward offering up free or nearly-free lands in exchange for homesteading and development of that land, then we had a Gold Rush, a big economic expansion tied to the Railways, and then like a decade of shit economy before the during-and-post war boom.Life has been good in America since we got rid of the natives and Yellow Fever. People here expect that standard, not the thirdiestan struggle.
>>218211667this is such a tired cope. do you think cavemen felt 'safe' back then? are animals not reproducing because predators can eat them?
>>218211667>people breed when they feel safeis that why africans have 6 children while developed world pipo have 0?
>>218211850Thing is, unless you instate a Land Value Tax (good luck convincing landowners), then the US has run out of land to manifest destiny, unless you want to live in the Midwest Desert or conquer another country and expel the people living there like what happened to the American Indians.
>>218210593>mental age frozen at 17kek im taking this one>>218210660Zoomers are completely and utterly mindbroken by modern politics, and as you can see by that fire in switzerland, they are mindrotten by social media and AI
>>218210660>>218211585
>>218211667>people breed when they feel safelmao, if we could teleport every single zoomer to 500 years ago and replace that generation with zoomers the human race would get even more devastated than during the bubonic plague>What do you mean there is no social media and chatgpt?>w-what there is no penicillin and I can literally die by a single small cut? why would I bring a kid to this awful era!Makes me laugh just by imaging it
>>218210660Cos no women want to have a second date with me
>>218210660>Why don't men want to be fathersBecause video games are more fun
>>218212472real answerwe're past the point of natural reproduction. too many distractions, porn, birth control is widely available, and women don't want to get pregnant.
>>218210660I don't want to dedicate time, money and resources to a little parasite that I would not care for.
>>218210660I do want to be a father.
>>218212581If they removed child labor laws that little parasite would cease being a glorified housepet and be an actual investment. There was this case called Little Hercules where a father trained his kid to be an absolute beast who could bench like 5x his body weight, but the feds intervened because of steroids. Fuck this society, they EXPECT you to let school raise your kids and they don't even teach them anything useful.
>>218210896incorrect. most early deaths happened while in single digit ages.
>>218211904An Africans standard of living is so low that a child would have little impact, and after a couple years they will be able to help and bring in additional income. Meanwhile westerners have more to lose given how more expensive and time consuming children are(and no half decent person would willingly subject their children to a poorer quality of life than what they enjoyed)
>>218211850Yeah, lets forget all the periods of time in which Europe was at war and people were starving, and still had children.The real reason is that there are no communities anymore, people had children because they felt part of something bigger, even if they had to struggle, growing the community was goal.Now with AI, inequality and individualism, people feel worthless.
>>218210652>>218210749no one fucking cares about your hillbilly doctrine CletudThis world needs more reluctant single mothers like (You) need more Christian LARPing on this porn addiction cesspool
>>218213469no, this is bullshit againa child is a mouth to feed, food is even more valuable if you're miserable.rich people have less children than poor people even within the same countries.again, real reason is because you don't want to. you'd rather watch netflix and goon.
>>218210660bodied those incels
The reason is the pill and capitalism you fucking idiots.Think about it: a system that rewards wealth while also clamoring for doing the obe act that is GUARANTEED to rape your income potential.It is not fucking rocket surgery guys.
>>218213581>muh capitalismthat's not the reason either, zoomer
>>218211850>Life's been pretty good in our neck of the woods since about 1850 up until the present day.Well you and those ancestors probably live(d) better off than the rest of your other ancestors.
>>218210660because I'm already old enough to be a grandfather and having a kid now would be lame
>>218213581Why the fuck would capitalism be the issue? If the market doesn't demand more people then people simply don't want more people. If you need to do all of this bullshit printing to keep up interest in GDP and make all of this fake work then clearly people want higher quality of life rather than more people. Would you live in poverty just to raise a child? Do most of these people want a kid for any other reason than it being fashionable? Like what function does it even serve if you can automate so many jobs? Most people just want a personal sex slave, that's it, if their wife told them sex is only for procreation suddenly marriage looks less appealing.
>>218214429You're almost there. What really lowers birth rate is a higher quality of life because that heightens selfishness.
>>218211009>When asked what era they like best,men would likely name various periods such as the feudal age or the pioneer era.No they wouldn't.
>>218210660settling down is worse than death
>>218213564Starvation is normal in Africa, they'll have no problem going a day without food so their kids will have something to eat.
>>218213469you are confusing cause and effect, fertility rate doesn't drop because of raising standards of livingfertility drops off the cliff when the women get equalitythis correlates with increased prosperity since the labor pool basically doubleswhen standards of living sharply drop in countries with female equality (see ex-ussr), fertility drops even further because of hardships
>>218210593>>218210660Keep crying about both cases.
>>218210660Where's Lee?
>>218210660conflicts with my fat stinky neet lifestyle and im not handsome or interesting enough to marry an older woman and be a househusband
>>218213550I much prefer treat women like the Taliban do than ever allowing abortion.
>>218210660They do, women just dont want kids.
>>218213550nice sperg-out. solid 7/10.
>>218210660>become a father>give the woman of your children "the ick" literally once and she jumps on another dick and takes your kids and house away, maybe lets you see your kids once every other weekend but you still pay for them
Korean women are just waiting for chad jewish guys
>>218210660we do THOUGH
>>218211904It's a status thing. in Africa people have big families because having a big familiy means you are high status. In America having too many kids is associated with low class.
>>218210660every western man desperately wants a serious relationship and would eagerly have children if they had a woman. Women as the gatekeepers of sex, relationships and childbirth and in developed countries they have collectively decided that none of those things are on the table any longer.
>>218210593The pic goes in both ways. I think I would like to have a family. But I'm 26 yo KHHV, who has not really good job with not really good future in it. So I cannot provide fully for the family.Besides I live with my parents, because property prices are too high.
>>218210762I suffer with zoomer men. My dad also tought me nothing. Typical boomer mentality of ”do what makes you happy” and then just neglecting me and letting me spend my formative years doing nothing. I guess he forced me to always have atleast one sport i was active in and that small detail formed essentially everything positive about me. My entire 20s has been spent learning essentially everything from scratch. I didn’t even have a drivers license untill i was 26
>>218211667It's literally the opposite though, poorer countries = more childbirths per woman. During the Swedish famine in the 1800's it was way more common for households to have five or more children. Poor African countries shit out babies and it's not just because of a lack of birth control: it's life insurance.
>>218210942Marx was a cipher and covert apologist for the landowning nobility & robber knights that lost some power & influence to the city manufacturing guilds and merchants/logisticians.His primary works, “The Communist Manifesto” and “Das Kapital”, all attack the manufacturing-commercial nexus and especially in Britain during a time when the nobility & royalty were the weakest. Unfortunately for Britain, they still have that caste...We will never know the subterfuge force that created & permeated Marx into existence – for all we know, he could very well have been another covert operative (like Kant, Hegel, Weber etc.) conducting asymmetrical destabilization attempts against the junkers' enemies in the British emporium (first and foremost), or a covert “court Jew” stereotype that was helped by & was helping all the gentry/nobility throughout Europe that owned land as a status though functionally lost tremendous power since 1789.I'm convinced this is the ultimate white pill regarding Marx, Marxism & Marxist “economics” – which speak on the behalf of a dethroned, weakened (“classless/stateless”) nobility & royalty, than that of peasants that found liberty outside their hereditary “liege's” fief.A “classless” nobility – that sees itself above everyone else (the meaning of “Aryan race”, nothing to do with the mindless cannon fodder German serf drone) – that has nothing else to lose but the chains of currency & manufacturing centrifugal forces – “the capital” – of the European non-nobility populations that broke out of their control.To Jews, Marx is categorically classified as an “erev rav”.
>>218210942>>218219795(cont.)He took the sides of the nobilities & royalties throughout Europe that endangered both their lives in the ghettos (the abuse, the rape of their women & children, the mass killings on a whim at their command...) and the lives of Europeans. Literally took the sides of the pharaohs & their nobility, to make the comparison.This is the white pill about Marx & Marxism, and adjacent arguments: apologetics for the power-debased nobility, to slaughter those serfs & Jews that dared leave their fiefs or ghettos, and separate themselves as another power structure. This is why we've had two world wars, notwithstanding other conflicts. The nobilities still exist, still breathe, still hate Europeans & Jews for “not knowing their place”. This is what we're up against, in the last +250 years; most obviously since the turn of the previous millennium, at least...
>>218218780>Women as the gatekeepers of sexOf course it should be that way.After all, only women can bear children.The moment one has sex, the risk of contracting HPV (human papillomavirus) increases significantly, making regular cervical cancer screening essential.It is women who bear the risk after having sex. Men, well, they needn't do anything, I suppose.
>>218211882this. fuck you and sht the fuck up already indie virgin. >>218211667
>>218210660im trash genetic material
>>218219961Women gatekeep men from mediocre but otherwise safe men and fuck abusechad with Chlamydia it has nothing to do with risk
>>218220551>>218220320gatekeep sex*
>>218220573why tag me
>>218220551>murica educationHuman papillomavirus is a virus that even virgin men can transmit to women during sexual intercourse, making infection unavoidable.Incidentally, even condoms cannot provide complete protection.Sex carries far greater risk for women than for men.
>>218221018idk I'm phone posting and it somehow happened >>218221366Yea and women don't care about risk which is why the men they desire most have 1000+ bodies and beat them
>>218210660I want to but I literally can't rent an apartment for more than a couple of months most of the time, let alone find a gf
If anything has demonstrated the fact that Causality has nothing to do with history, it is the familiar "decline" of the Classical, which accomplished itself long before the irruption of Germanic migrants.The Imperium enjoyed the completest peace; it was rich and highly developed; it was well organized; and it possessed in its emperors from Nerva to Marcus Aurelius a series of rulers such as the Cæsarism of no other Civilization can show. And yet the population dwindled, quickly and wholesale. The desperate marriage-and-children laws of Augustus - amongst them the Lex de maritandis ordinibus, which dismayed Roman society more than the destruction of Varus's legions - the wholesale adoptions, the incessant plantation of soldiers of barbarian origin to fill the depleted country-side, the immense food-charities of Nerva and Trajan for the children of poor parents - nothing availed to check the process. Italy, then North Africa and Gaul, and finally Spain, which under the early Cæsars had been one of the most densely populated parts of the Empire, become empty and desolate. Depopulation can be distinctly traced in the background of the Egyptian New Empire, especially from the XIX dynasty onwards. But the same tendency can be felt in the history of political Buddhism after the Cæsar Asoka. And if we turn to our own civilization, we find that the old families of the French noblesse were not, in the great majority of cases, eradicated in the Revolution, but have died out since 1815, and their sterility has spread to the bourgeoisie and, since 1870, to the peasantry which that very Revolution almost recreated. In England, and still more in the United States - particularly in the east, the very states where the stock is best and oldest - the process of "race suicide" denounced by Roosevelt set in long ago on the largest scale.
>>218210660Its a pain in the ass.
>>218210593It's a shitty deal honestly. If governments wanted people to have kids, they shouldn't have let corpos shit up the world and make people wage cuck to barely live a life of comfort.For many couples having a child would disrupt that comfort, and a lot of them feel as though they wouldn't be able to give the kids the life they deserve unless they were more well off - hence they wait until they are in that position which never comes.And assuming you do have a kid, the best thing you can really hope for them to have is a shot at being a wagie. Literally bred for a lifetime of slavery.
>>218219664My dad taught me a lot of stuff like DIY, plumbing and carpentry. I have a cool dad :D
>>218219664>do what makes you happy>does nothing>ends up with = nothing makes you happy
>>218221366>Meme argument that not even women use as their reason for abstaining from sex
>>218215260The declining birthrates in the middle east shows that it's not just women having more rights. And collapse of the ussr didn't lower people expectations, the still have a expected standard of living that the successor states were unable to provide
>>218210593I don't know, my cousin is only 33 and she has five kids. One of my uncles has 8 kids. Maybe some people have more than enough kids for multiple families and the biological urge to procreate offspring is kind of balanced out over the species population.
>>218210660Because sadly transgirls cant get pregnat yet...
