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Why are the Japanese held to a different standard? Doesn't seem very fair.
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In truth many of them are shitty overated. Nobody can believe that Japanese killed more than 300,000 people in Nanjing that its population increase from 200,000.

Chinese' exaggeration are just another level.
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>>218216807
Because they act like they didn't do them like that Tomio Tomogatchi whatever the hell his name is
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>>218216910
no other country openly admits to their war crimes either
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>>218216883
I really wish the Occupation forces let Japan keep Korea to wipe out Korean language and culture because you Koreans are so annoying, it's a shame America is so benevolent
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>>218216807
This lie no one says japanese people are genetically predetermined to be pedophiles or violent savages
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>>218216931
only thirdies and former thirdies
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The great purification of Nanjing was heroic and righteous, it must happen again except all over China and the casualty must be 1.3 billion
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>American cums in the ocean
Poles:
>Japanese cums in the ocean
Taiwaners:
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>>218216910

It's similar to the propaganda that Britain caused the Bay of Bengal famine during World War II, killing five million Indians.

It's like.... Japan raped three women in the past, and nowaday people blame that Japan raped seven children and dismemberment one of them.

Even here in Korea, the comfort women issue was a complete fraud. The claims that 'Comfort woman were forced and they were sex slave' were unfounded, many former comfort womans constantly changed their past stories and lied. It's true that Japan is being judged by a strange standard.

And don't be nonsense Chinese. Here many Korean knows your country is full of liars
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>>218217087
If the past is used for precedent then you just eliminate the conditions that lead to whatever 'war crime' that needs to be presented. There's 0 need for guilt it does nothing if this belief in culture and law is so strong. I get sometimes bureaucracy and law gets stale/rigid and someone needs to shock the system, but a state isn't an organism it's not going to go feral nor is it layered. There's 0 reason to view the past as anything other than a series of conditions and particulars.
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>>218216807
because they lost the war

winners are always right, even if they're horrible nightmare fake countries like muttland
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>>218216910
>Because they act like they didn't do the
Where did you get that information?
The Japanese government acknowledge it and is apologetic.
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>>218216883
are you the fabled zainichi on holidays in the home country or what exactly is happening here
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>>218216807
Guilt trip does not really work on Japan, which is why Japan still refuses to learn English even after American Occupation. If you can't write, read, or speak Japanese, Japan will ignore you and 80% of the Japanese population does not even own passports, so foreigners are unlikely to encounter a Japanese in real life, either.
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>>218217284
It's kinda crazy how much of a rotten third world country they are while at the same time having such a massive cultural impact. There's lessons to be drawn from Japan before they're NTR'd out of existance sometime this century.
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>>218216807
>>218216883
VPN off takeshi
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>>218217283
95% of koreans who use 4chan are part of the gen-z new right who are sympathetic to japan and it's history and very negative about china and communism
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>>218217319
That Korean is a ilbe bug that is contrarian to everything mainstream and therefore thinks he’s better than others.
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>218217128

So, you mean it can be justified to make a biased discourse based on exaggeration. I don't think we should criticize China for refuting the exaggeration of the recently revealed atrocities committed against Tibetans and Uyghurs. Even if someone deserves criticism, it must be based on truth.

There's no need for excuses like "good intentions." Discourse based on exaggeration, even if intentions aren't good, inevitably leads to negative consequences.

And what China is saying is that Japanese should concede forever, bow their heads down, and not contradict the other person even Chinese are lieing and exaggerating. What China is doing to here Korea.

In the 1970s, Mao Zedong said, "The Japanese always apologize and feel sorry when they meet Chinese." Rather, the Germans spread the false theory of clean Wehrmacht. Nowaday the criticism of Japan is derived from the strange way of thinks that "Japan has been criticized less so it is justified to criticize it exaggeratedly now," while ignoring all the complicated situations.

It's will never be justified at all.


>> 218217284

Do you know the real history of Korea and what the hell is happening here? Shut the fuck off.
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>>218217064
fuck off you morbidly obese foreskinless quarter-g*rman mutant
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>>218217128

So, you mean it can be justified to make a biased discourse based on exaggeration. I don't think we should criticize China for refuting the exaggeration of the recently revealed atrocities committed against Tibetans and Uyghurs. Even if someone deserves criticism, it must be based on truth.

There's no need for excuses like "good intentions." Discourse based on exaggeration, even if intentions aren't good, inevitably leads to negative consequences.

And what China is saying is that Japanese should concede forever, bow their heads down, and not contradict the other person even Chinese are lieing and exaggerating. What China is doing to here Korea.

In the 1970s, Mao Zedong said, "The Japanese always apologize and feel sorry when they meet Chinese." Rather, the Germans spread the false theory of clean Wehrmacht. Nowaday the criticism of Japan is derived from the strange way of thinks that "Japan has been criticized less so it is justified to criticize it exaggeratedly now," while ignoring all the complicated situations.

It's will never be justified at all.


>>218217284

Do you know the real history of Korea and what the hell is happening here? Shut the fuck off.
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waiting for the day when Korea and Japan is re-annexed again so I can give skinny manlet bowlcut jap incels some handjobs
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>>218217357
Calm down dude I can smell the cum on your breath when you yell like dat
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>>218216807
>two nukes weren't enough
This phrase is peak normie sadism. On par with "FAFO" and "Darwin award"
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>> 218217319
Nope


>>218217333

Turn your VPN off Chang. Here so many Wumao and Chinese propaganda among female community and Internet. And I also fucking hate Ilbe. Yoon was terrible and racism is kind of disgusting.
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>>218217380
i didnt know wonjongs were this gay *blushes*
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>>218217319
Nope


>>218217414
Wonjongs weebshits are another full of dumbshit. But I at least strongly agree that anti-Japanese propaganda is shithole. We don't have to idolize Japan's occuption. Nothing could be idolized.

In truth Kawai Japan WUW meme is also dumbshit.

What Many people have to know is that the word 'meme' was made by Frankfurt School. They use the word 'meme ' to explain the impulse and madness of masses. It was 1930s Germany.

Imperial Japan during WW2 was bullshit but their 'war criminals' are also exaggerated.
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>>218217283
You know the real history of here Korea and what the hell is going on? Shut the fuck off. Or you are just Bot.
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>>218217414
what's wonjong
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>>218217330
KTU(Korean Teachers and Eudcation Workers Union) is full of nationalist and spreading anti western-Japan propaganda. Not only KTU, so many stupid groups and medias are. Do you know how much nationalism and anti western-Japan propganda spread here Korea for decades? They also spread Pro-North Korean propaganda.

The frame that 'There are so many Pro-Us and Pro-Western,Japan propaganda among South Korea' is absoultely wrong.

I see a lot of arguments that many North Korea's horrific abuses are exaggerated(It's not) and many North Korean defectors and groups that helping them are liars(It's not). Shithole tankies and Wumaos spreading it.

At least here Z generation totally find the truth of Korea history and such dumbshit situation during few decades.
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>>218216807
This is my reaction to chuds moralfagging about natives killing their enemies trying to spin a narrative about them being the most evil bad guys ever. It's so pathetically dishonest and self serving.
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>>218216883
Kim at that time lots of refugees fled to Nanking including KMT soldiers.
Also, whether 0.1 million or 0.2 million, massacre is massacre.
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>>218217330
For decaeds, here South Korea was full of nationalist and anti America-Japanese propaganda. Korea's leftist governments always support North Korea government(sunshine policy) and did appeasement polocy toward North Korea.

The result was absolutely shithole. It was worse than Chamberlain's policy toward Nazis.

Are there any blame toward it? Hell no.

Above there, some Chinese holding US flag claims that lies are necessary because we need some shock and change. And why are Chinese blaiming Korea and Taiwan's Pro-Japan public opinion? Even here many Pro-Japan public opinions are based on truth.
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>Jap warcrimes apologia while having this flag.
No wonder you fuckers lost the mainland.
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>>218216807
>japanese war crimes
never happened
they deserved it
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Because America wants to justify to the world that it dropped two nuclear bombs.
China has started using Japan to unite its people, and it's working rather well.

For any country, it's more convenient to portray Japan as the ultimate devil.
That's why criticism of Japan will never cease.
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>>218217687
Yes, it's like Chinese and tankies are blaiming Tibet and Uyghur's independence activists. I see a lot of Chinese blaiming China's anti-government movement people or even someone who blame their society.

You guys are far more full of pathetically dishonest and self serving.
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>>218217363
No I'm saying that if you're going to form a discourse on history at all it should be one based on causation. Simple things like if you have two parties that border each other and both are feudal eventually their desire to expand intersects/leads to overgrazing. That's all, if you have a monetary system that incentivizes certain things (kind of like a pellet dispenser they use for rat experiments) eventually you start noticing that people behave a certain way to get the incentives. If there's an argument against something like caste systems being dysgenic or arranged marriages leading to mafias, then that's a useful way to frame history. If you're listing atrocities rather than the system of incentives than it goes nowhere, there's a certain alchemy to statecraft.
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>>218217775

Just nonsense logic that justify exaggerations
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>>218217720

And exaggeration is exaggeration and lie is lie
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>>218217411
>>218217502
W-why do you use translation...
Aren't Koreans smart...
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>>218217802
Zhou En Lai and China free the war didn’t ask for reparations to Japan despite 10 mil victims caused by war.

It’s extremely hard for the victims to forgive the aggressor and at least we Japanese should feel something about it.

I understand that the current political situation doesn’t allow us to be friendly, but we should admit our wrong doings in the past on our part to move on.
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>>218216883
Korean bro, do you like Park Chung Hee? He liked the Japanese and served in the Manchuria Army
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>>218217883
>free
*after
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>>218217775
There 25m~30m people dead during Taiping Rebellion. 20m people dead during 1900's famine. 30~40m people dead during The great Leap Forward. But except racist and anti-Chinese, nobody stipulate China history as disgusting.
>>218217837
It is Chrome system. Chrome site automatically translate it. And don't be ad hominem.

And please, turn your proxy off. I see a lot of Bot account thay supporting Japanese leftist parties and here Korea's leftidt parties. Don't we know your stupid lies?
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>>218217883
>but we should admit our wrong doings in the past on our part
when you do that they'll just double down and won't stop until you're completely ashamed of your past. they don't want anyone to have ancestors they can be proud of. apologize for the massacres and they'll start talking about how you genocided the ainu to steal the land, it never ends. just look at what's happening in western countries
never apologize
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>>218216807
people like being contrarian to the [CURRENT THING] because it makes them be a part of a "cool counterculture!!" and the exaggeration of historical events among other things is just kettle logic'd justification for their pre-existing opinion (being Japan bad)
Most of them believe that there's some cabal of "japan glazers" that make up the majority of the population even though the "japan is living in 2030" non-sense died out half a decade ago
Also their actions and motive in WW2 weren't even that bad in comparison to the Nazis who literally wanted to ethnically cleanse and enslave tens of millions of people, meanwhile they believed in "my people goodest" (common belief back then) and wanting to set up pro-Japanese governments around the Pacific (same thing the US was doing for itself but on a global scale instead) forcing European countries to decolonise out of Asia
It's simply a case of history being written by the winners (US) and people wanting to have something to get mad at, you could apply the same reasoning they do to basically any major historic and/or current power

>>218217959
>tf
>tp
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Losers will always cry. Victors like USA and Japan sit on their throne and prosper.
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>>218216807
I know it's bait, but there's plenty of other cunts held to bar for their crimes.
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>>218217959

I know that Turkey's armenia genocide had bunch of exageration. And you are right.

In truth, that 'war criminals' and 'atrocities' are pretty much based on exaggeration and misimformation. And you know, if somebody point it out, he would be somewhat kind of disgusting propaganda spreader.

The claims that 'Western imperial made a lot of border lines and it is the cause of Africa's famine and disputing' are not. Absolutely not, and the whole famines and disputings of Africa are based on population explosion.

But many western accepted that discourage and the result is terrible.
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>>218217959
The performative whining about war crimes is always in bad faith. Just look at interactions between Serbs and Croats
>you were le bad, we were le justified also it didn't happen but you deserved it
>no, YOU were le bad, we were le justified ones also it didn't happen but you deserved it
>no, YOU were le bad, we were le justified ones also it didn't happen but you deserved it
>no, YOU were le bad, we were le justified ones also it didn't happen but you deserved it
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>>218218020
Why didn't Serbs and Croats leave their differences for a minute and team up against the Bosniaks and Albanians? I know during the Bosnian War the Bosniaks and Croats fought together but there was a brief period when they were fighting each other before the USA came
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>>218216807
western hypocrisy desu
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>>218218020
sovl.
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I was just reading about the firebombing of Tokyo and encountered an interesting thing. The B-29 crews of later bombing waves had to wear their oxygen masks because of the stench of burning flesh that they could smell even from high up.
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>>218216807
Because the Japanese are white
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>>218217064
I've been saying this for the past 3 years



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