Massachusetts is replacing its RACIST flag
>>218216809At this rate only New Jersey will still have a SOULful flag
>>218216809one and two are pretty bad, the third pic would go hard as fuck for any Great Plains state but for Massachusetts it doesn't fit.
>>218216943I like the first one although I think the hill that the star is perched on should be more angular. 2 and three don't fit at all
>>218216809Getting rid of "seal on a bedsheet" flags has nothing to do with racism you fucking dumbass.
>>218216809>By the sword we seek peace, but peace only under liberty This goes so much harder than any of the new phrases
>>218216809There are so many other things to focus on, but of course having a gay woman as a governor means idiotic things like flag change is by default gonna be on the agenda because they can't handle issues that actually matter like everything being fucking expensive.
Vexillology trannies need to rope
>>218217249Umm, sweetie, not adhering to the rules of vexillology is very yikes-y of you
>>218217291sovl vs soulless
>>218217237A governor can't really do that much about the housing crisis though. That's on the townships or whatever you guys have up there in Mass. Local planners. Housing situation is fucked in the U.S
>>218216809Bottom right is the best one>>218217218Then what it is? Are people so retarded nowadays they need kindergarden shapes to recognize flags?
>>218216809Simple as
>>218217488Could've sworn I added the photo.
>>218217500The fact there none of the proposed designs have pine trees on them is sickening
>>218217291>random wavy zigzags + generic mountain peak + generic starThey're all the same bland, historyless, corporate logo tier generic dogshit. The very definition of souless.The previous ones were awful, but could be redone in so many ways. Especially the top middle one. It's a blue cross with white outlines on a green background and 2 fleur de lys. It's perfectly fine, even pretty, once you get rid of the unneccesary cluttered details, but nooo, random waves and a gay little star it is! I hate reddit so fucking much.
>>218217500>a fucking tree
>>218217508Exactly, All these redesigns are trash. This should be the perfect opportunity for us to reuse some old ones from the past. Hell, I'd settle for the flag that was used during the Battle of Bunker Hill.
>>218216809Third one is the best but still kind of lame
>>218217318more like ugly vs prettyThe new ones would look great in EU4 as a country flagThe old ones would look eye searingly bad
>>218217589That's the perfect flag, I actually thought this was Massachusett's flag already. I didn't know you guys had a seal-flag. Just use that one. And it's not weird that it has a St. George's cross on it because Hawaii has the Union Jack on it
That's so gay. This is one of the best stateflags
>>218216809Corporate like japanese prefecture flags.They should just design a new shield
>>218216809They should change the flag to the Indian shooting an arrow at the guy who tried to change the flag.
First motto is good but suits a square state with no history more than Massachusetts. They should keep the old one. None of the new flags are very good either but desu the old flag is ass and should be replaced. All of the state seal on monochrome background flags are bad except maybe New York
>>218217648It's most likely not gonna be used because the The New England Governors Conference uses the flag, but with stars added. Even so, they can just remove the St George's cross and place the pinecone in the middle or just remove the stars and keep everything. Either way the flag represents Massachusetts history, not the other New England states so it should be in their right to use it.
>>218216809I think the first one is relatively good. However, I wish we had a more maximalist school of vexillology. I can't find any in the internet, at all. Sometimes I find good stuff in DeviantArt. Anyone got some good pages?
>>218217723Nah New York's is pretty bad too
>>218216809Some retards here also want to change our national flag for "not being unifying" because boohoo some ingrate cunt who voluntarily immigrated to an English speaking Anglo-Celtic nation doesn't feel represented by the flag apparently.>t. Half Italian
>>218216809Okay so we got:>waterpark logo>blue hong kong>native larp bird swastika
>>218218478nvm that's even worse that's a bird feather jewish star
>>218216809Brehs. This is the 2026s. Just write Massachutits or josever u spell it in Times New Roman on white background and be done with it. Heraldy is for European countries with real history, not some podunk Yankee newfaggot fake town.
>Removing every reminder that natives exist Subtle historical eradication. I won't be surprised if future historians debate whether natives even existed. They'll probably think Canada and America were both white by default.
>>218216809Why is the mayflower a contender? It literally symbolises the beginning of the new Protestant Ascendancy / old stock dominance.
>>218216809how disgusting vilemore antiwhiteism and White erasure.burn all the cucks involved alive.
>>218218516Shut the fuck up. Malingshit
>>218217186HOLY SHIT ADOBE ILLUSTRATOR DEPICTION OF RIVERS AND MOUNTAINS FLAG #426 GOES HARD AS FUCK!!! I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL NOT A SINGLE FLAG ON EARTH HAS ANY CHARACTER OR DISTINCTIVENESS AT ALL!!!
if these demons come for the Iowa flag we're gonna have a FUCKING PROBLEM
>>218216809why can't flag redesigns have a middle ground between the lazy seals-on-a-bedsheet and this generic slop?
My state has the best flag btw
>>218218753Yeah I changed my mind after I made that post the flag of Massachusetts should really just be this >>218217589Most states already have historical flags that are much much better than the ones they have now>>218218763Iowa's is distinct and probably safe because its the french looking one, but many state flags are just blue and indistinguishable seals. I do like Nevada's though that one can stay
>>218216809Why do these soulless reddit flags always use that same copy and pasted starSo ugly
>>218216809All of the states changing their flags is visual proof that the country is collapsing.>>218217291Soul crushing.
>>218218806Its nice but the color of that star and how it looks with other elements makes me sick. I dont know what color they should've used but oh man my eyes.
>>218217291I call them beer-coaster flags >>218217621You're insane
>>218218818>but many state flags are just blue and indistinguishable seals.they're not indistinguishable at all, actually, they're just similar. they are perfectly distinguishable if you're not a moron.those old school, pre-revolution flags are cool for the historical aspect but having the cross of st. george on a us state flag would be kinda cringe.
>>218218516I assume this is satire since your country is less than 100 years old and you ripped off our flag
>>218217291if you don't throw up at 0:04 you have no soul
>>218218806Step aside, cactus boy.Our flag is superior to all the others. Only our fellow Southern brothers have respectable flags. Dammit Miss'ippi!
>>218218806the southwest has pretty strong flags overall: arizona, new mexico, newest mexico, coloradobtw the new utah flag SUCKS
>>218218938the texas flag is too similar to the flag of chile
>>218216809>Massachusetts>“On its own, «-chusetts» doesn’t have an independent English meaning. It’s a phonetic remnant of a Native suffix, expressing location or people associated with a place—not a standalone word.>That «great hill» likely referred to Great Blue Hill, south of modern Boston.Massachusetts or Masterchusett?
>>218218973North Carolina's too
>>218218806I wish Nevada would have a bigger coat of arms or what ever you call it in this case. Their state motto is pretty cool. Still Arizona is one of the prettiest flags imo.
>>218217469Yes, unironically. Basic vexillology standards suggest all good flags can be drawn in simplest style by a kindergartener with a few crayons.
>>218218806I fing Georgia funny>No You cannot use the Confederate cross that's roicist. So then they did a SOB style flag. But then it looked ugle so they just...used actual flag of confederacy but put some golden stuff on it.
>>2182168093 > orig > 1 > 2
>>218218806Orange on red is awful
>>218217291>dude rivers>dude mountainsGenuinely worse than random tricolors.
>>218219095The point of a flag isn't to be good material for a child's arts and crafts day, its to be something that people look at and feel identification with. Simplicity is tangential to that.
>>218219623Yes, but it's a good shorthand that if a kid cannot draw it even in minimalist blob form, then the design isn't straightforward enough to ease identification
>>218219095Almost everything can be successfully simplified. Super detailed Venetia flag can still be drawn by a child as a yellow lion with wings on red background — so it follow the guideline and thus recognizable.But no one proposes to remove the details, it works as it is.
Sick and tired of soyllennial vexillology.
>>218219699Its an entire generation of weirdos that grew up looking at corporate logos as the peak of human artistic achievement.
>>2182169433rd one looks like too asian
>>218216809Instead of another boring Latin motto why don't they have one in the Massachusett language?
Why does it need to change? I don't understand what's wrong with it.
>>218216809le bacon strip flag, r/vexillology approved
I love my beautiful ass flag...
>>218220379Emblem flags le bad or something
>>218219748It looks native american
>>218222332I thought this shit died in 2022
>>218222491Are you talking about me or the sentiment on emblem flags?
>BURN OSEA TO THE GROUND
What's going on here
>>218218804Yeah it is weird. When merging municipalities here the rules explicitly state that the new design can't be one of the old designs or a combination of the two old designs. It must be a new globohomo design (which apparently is just mountains upon mountains).
>>218222742bottom right is a mockery
Put image of black guy in rice box>RACISMPut image of black guy in flag>RACISMPut image of black guy in rice advertisement>progressive, empoweringPut image of black guy in government brochure>progressive, empoweringWhy?
>>218222946That's after they improved it. They initially wanted panties.
>>218223052soul crushing. at least turn the mountain gray with some white spots depicting snow
>>218216809>please care about my country
>>218217291Here is what all the flags remind me oftop left: some random microislandtop middle: rwandatop right: idkbottom left: nordvpnbottom middle: rwanda (strawberry flavor)bottom right: i opened a template on a free illustrator website
>>218220379Because a very few "Hey ya, hey ya, ho" people living in Massachusetts finds it offensive and the women running the program wants a flag that best suits Massachusetts tourist website.
>>218216809slogan of the current + flower flag
Minnesomalia
>>218216809All those r/vexilology flags look so soulless but i can't really put my finger on why
>>218217291Kek this is literally globohomo art applied to flags
>>218216897A state seal on a solid colour isn't a flag
>>218217469>Are people so retarded nowadays they need kindergarden shapes to recognize flags?Lmfao you ask that as a rethorical question but that's unironically one of reddit's meme vexilology rules>A flag must be so simple a child can draw it or algo
CGP Grey's vexillology guidelines were a mistake.
>>218216809And they’re all shit. Thank goodness we followed the reddit flag rules.
>>218227749Because they're just checking tickboxes for rules on how to make a flag (no more than 3 colors, simple patterns, no text) instead of coming up with something original, or that at least reflects the culture an the history of the place the flag represents
>>218216809Such pussy shit, the Massachusetts flag should be a caricature of Ben Franklin saying "Vae Victis" and standing over Indian and British skulls
>>218216809Repeating what I said 12 hours ago.>>218217717Just remake the state seal instead of adopting those reddit corpoflags. It's very hard to go wrong with a coat of arms.
>>218217291Grim as fuckWhy are we doing this
>>218217249We're called "flaggots", you heterosigil.
>>218222491progressive shit never dies
>>218225299the fact that none of the proposed flags have any connection to early USA history despite Boston being one of the most important cities from that era tells you everything you need to know.
>>218227803yes>>218227839but a red cross on a white background is?>>218231961this
>>218218806New mexico mogs
>>218218448how the fuck did california get away with having such a good flagit's not even just good compared to the shitty seals on fields, it's a top 10 flag globally even though california is the font of all evil
>>218216943>the third pic would go hard as fuck for any Great Plains state but for Massachusetts it doesn't fitIt looks like a shit version of the Hong Kong flag.
>>218234562california was a conservative state prior to the last couple of decades of mass "immigration" and redistricting.
>>218234138the new mexico flag looks nice but it doesn't project power like the CHADizona one does
>>218234562Ronald Reagan was governor here before he was POTUS. If that doesn’t tell you what we used to be like I don’t know what would>>218234732It took me too long to realize that those are feathers and not wheat stalks. Bad idea for a flag that’s supposed to communicate something important to a state’s culture
>>218216809left seems kinda retarded wtf are those scribbled wtf is an 'ense' write normal englishthe ones on the right look nice on their own but theyre too japanease it looks like a flag of some new prefecture they lack character. easier to fix the old flag make the text straight not at a wierd angle and make it correct english
>>218235227Shlomo please, I thought the language of the Romans was inscribed into your very soul
>>218235285romans speak italian and massachusetts is in usa not italy
>>218234060There's a Mayflower on the second flag>>218234785100% white California would still have gone to Harris
>>218216809>we rejoice in The Greater Good>many immigrants, one utopia>HEYA HOYA HEYA HOYA
>>218217291Cedar Rapids is pure SOVL and Reno is kinda neat. Duluth and Burlington aren't THAT bad conceptually, but need decluttering. Pocatello and whatever is bottom right suck, but the "improved" versions are somehow even worse.
>>218218806Fun fact, each belgian government gets a name depending of the parties forming the coalition.The current government is called the Arizona because it has liberals (blue) , centrists (orange), flemish nationalists (yellow) and socialists (red) in it.
>>218218806Not bad but New Mexico is better by far.
>>218236693That's kinda neat.
>>218216809redditors need to be cut out off r/vexillology, ALL their redesigns look the same, literally ALL of them are a fucking soulless logo ty shiyou've got the tricolors, you know the Japanese prefectural flags, so get ready for LITERAL reddit flagsmy 5 rules are sacrosanct!!
>>218237076Did you know that we actually do that in Germany as well? It's great that other countries do things as WE do them in GERMANY...
>>218218949Utah flag should've been this but the flag committee added those gaudy red and white mountains in the back making it look like an REI t shirt>>218229138I immediately disregarded his faggy ass video when he said he disqualified California just because it has text
>>218234084>but a red cross on a white background is?yes
>>218240171Whoever came up with the idea of representing geographic features with graphical design on your flag was a fucking moolie. No, putting a mountain silhouette does not look good, nor does a wavy blue line for a river look good. Wow, mountains and rivers, how absolutely unique. Really smart move that you decided to make that a central point on your polity's banner.
