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Crazy how white people made communism about transgenders and blacks
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>>218267508
communism was always about transgender blacks
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>>218267508
>communism should be about helping us indians

>>218269677
I'm glad we have a specialist on the subject
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>>218267508
I’d consider myself leftist but I often choose not to identify with it because my views on immigration would get me lynched in any so-called left wing circles.
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It’s not my fault Marxoids chose to ally with African and Hispanic terrorists instead of focusing on industrialized countries.
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COINTELPRO is a hell of a drug
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>>218267508
Ever since the Revolution was put down by the Coalition, communism just hasn't had the same appeal in Revanchol.
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>>218269677
no, that's the one that was exported as a means of destabilizing western nations
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>>218269780
Yeah most "marxists" will bend over backward to make justify immigration. "we need to care for the victims of empire", falling birthrates, tolerance and cosmopolitan freedom of mobility. All of the arguments are decent, but they never actually grapple with the negative impacts of immigration, or of course its extreme unpopularity (especially for low skill browns).
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>>218269982
isn't the marxist (ie what marx wrote) line on immigration that immigrants form a part of a reserve army of labor used to depress wages and undercut organization?
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>>218270168
yes but marxist economics are retarded
wagemaxxing just means everyone will be poor all the same because shit will be more expensive.
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>>218270168
>what marx wrote
stop reading books by old white men, fascist
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>communism is about trannies and niggers
>but it's also about billionaires fucking me in the ass
>also mass immigration for cheap labor for the elites
>and putting ugly women in my video games
much like the true spirit of christmas, nobody knows what communism is about anymore
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>>218270189
True to an extent for firsties because of how much shit working conditions and wages in thirdie countries depress the cost of goods. However obviously not true for third worlders. And capitalism is the reason for a lot of malinvest. Huge industries devoted to luxury goods for the super rich and means of transport that destroy the environment. Also the fact that capitalists always turn their wealth into political influence which hurts the common people. A key insight of marxism is recognizing the huge negative externalities of wealth concentration on society.
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Pretty sure right wingerd talk about trannies and blacks far more than leftists do. Like a substantial amount more
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>>218270348
Yeah because they are calling out the subversives. They wouldn’t be subversives if they were advertising their subversion.
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>>218270333
>True to an extent for firsties because of how much shit working conditions and wages in thirdie countries depress the cost of goods.
their conditions would be even shittier if they didn't have sweatshops to work in. it's the only way to transfer wealth from rich nation to poorer ones that doesn't leave them dependent and actually builds their productive capacity.
>And capitalism is the reason for a lot of malinvest.
yet it's the most effective system so far. malinvestiment was far worse in any centrally planned economy.
>Huge industries devoted to luxury goods for the super rich
what does this even mean. do you think we should not have luxury goods? this is also a means of transferring wealth from the rich to the less rich. any economic activity that gets people to spend their cash tends to be positive for that reason.
>Also the fact that capitalists always turn their wealth into political influence which hurts the common people.
why shouldn't they have influence if they're the ones generating more wealth?
>negative externalities of wealth concentration on society
everyone knows too much concentration is bad and that's why we have taxes. if the concentration gets too high you increase the taxes on those people. it's that simple.
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>>218269677
your country was created by communists.
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>>218270216
Christmas at least is fun, and communism is useless and boring
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>>218270545
You do realize capitalists pay 0% tax. They don't earn income, all their wealth comes from appreciation of their property. And they don't even need to sell property and pay capital gains tax because they can use their property as collateral for loans to fund their immense consumption.

They should pay some inheritance tax, but it is low and they use charitable foundations (Jobs and prestige for their family) to avoid even that.

You really don't need to shill for rich people, it is the ultimate form of cuckoldry.
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>>218269677
You should know
Your people invented it
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>>218270216
communism after mao is just kill whitey
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>>218270642
>You do realize capitalists pay 0% tax
source?
>all their wealth comes from appreciation of their property
how is it my fault that you don't even own a basic shack? literally just buy anything that appreciates.
i'm not denying taxation could be better but that's a fixable problem and obviously far preferable to communism which is an actual failure.
>it is the ultimate form of cuckoldry.
why is the left obsessed with cuckoldry?
i'm just arguing against a system that only created poverty and genocide, and never worked unless it got economic reforms.
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>>218267508
Communism has always been an ideology followed by braindead simpletons.
They will adapt and change it to fit whatever retarded worldview they have.
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>>218267508
>Crazy how white people
it was literally the jews
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>>218270348
If I misgender a transgender in front of rightwingers, they wouldn't care, leftists would have a meltdown
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>>218270788
>Communism has always been an ideology followed by braindead simpletons.
I see a lot of zoomers saying they're 'communists' and i can only assume it's ignorance and a decaying education system. What they actually want are better public services and things like that, but they saw a video online saying communism le good actually and somehow never heard of Mao. it's quite bizarre.
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>>218267508
trannies and blacks are based, especially black trannies
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>>218270168
>>218269982
>>218269780
lefties/marxists are pro open borders because they want to fuck over workers to benefit the rich
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>>218270958
Majorities in all ex soviet countries except poland and czechia said life was better under communism than after - from a 2009 pew research study.

It's not a coincidence that capitalism produces shit social services. Capitalists love a desperate labor force because they have less bargaining power. And capitalists will always use their political power to oppose social spending. The essence of marxism is class struggle to reduce the power of capitalists. People who realize the necessity of weakening the power of capitalists in order to improve society are marxist socialists. A nonmarxist socialist would desire to use state power to improve social outcomes and support, but deny the importance of confronting the capitalist class in order to accomplish these goals.

Actually existing communism is a mixed bag, it accomplished great things, but had problems. A somewhat marxist socialism has been tried in many noncommunist countries to mostly great results. Namely in the nordics until the government decided to replace the local population. The failures in these countries can even be traced of the gradual decomittment to marxism, the people took their social services for granted, and forgot the need to present a united front against the capitalist class.
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Pretty based how the megajews in charge of the US destroyed actual leftism just changing the meaning of the word a bit
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>>218267508
No.
/thread.
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>>218271555
It's honestly amazing how pretty much the entire radical labor movement in the US has been erased from mainstream history, or sanitized and decontextualized as badly as the civil rights era. They don't want us to remember that American socialism was indeed popular, widespread and thoroughly working class at one time, or that it could be again. The ideologies get minimized and the systemic problems become isolated issues that we fixed a long time ago and never have to worry about again.
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>>218271792
Because acknowledging it would have to mean acknowledging the countless times the state+private companies+security or police forces have attacked and killed individuals in the labour movements.
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>>218270348
progressives are the most racist people on earth
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>>218271851
Really being obvious with the bots here
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>>218270675
Are you one of these idiots who thinks Karl Marx invented communism?
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>>218267508
Well, after the experience of the Soviet Union and East Germany, it became clear that capitalism had won, and poor people realized they wanted wealth to buy things and travel. The left had no option other than adopting identity politics if it wanted to remain relevant.
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>>218270348
Maybe because your sissy kind forces it trough everyone else's lives?!
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>>218267508
The unfortunate part of MY SIDE YOUR SIDE MY SIDE YOUR SIDE lunacy is that they always have to go increasingly nuttier to justify their brand loyalty while blaming the other for being crazy.
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>>218271792
many people will naturally trend toward what they thought they and their roots once been, even if knowingly bad, with sufficient uncontrolled triggers. It's better to not let them know. Really 101 of cattle control.
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>>218271946
>poor people realized they wanted wealth to buy things and travel.
And now they can't because labour rights and negotiate have stagnated and governments have pretty much sided with the companies.
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>>218271555
Ever since I took the leftpill it's made political discussions on this site pretty agonizing to endure. Chuddies think they can defeat the left but don't even know the first thing about it, and pride themselves on it.
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>>218269780
if there were a socialist party that defended social rights (not societal like sodomy and shiet) while being protectionist and against mass migration it would be considered far right
it would be "national socialism", and ya know never again o algo
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>>218272460
The word NAZI. It is short hand for the real name National Socialist German Workers Party. in German NSDAP Emphasize Socialist. Commentators of 20s until now insisted it was Right WIng. It is not. They did so to try and distant it from Communist Russia. The Soviet Union to leftist was good, make Nazism bad by saying it is right wing. The only real difference was Communism teaches class warfare. The Nazis, it was about German nationalism against outside forces, the Jews of course, Communist Russia, etc. People today saying our American Right are Nazis are wrong, Nazism is at heart a socialist system.
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we need White Communism



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