Europe's superpower: 'Followership'
Israel would be doomed if europe followed china instead.
>>218271240I dream of an EU-Russia-China Eurasian alliance, that is what America fears.
>>218271270Then why hasn't it happened without fear of the US? Or would it all be held together by pure reaction? Also China had literal European colonies in it until the socialists take over, Hong Kong was a colony until the 1990s and the Brits gave it up. So clearly the EU opted out of China early and only Russia/US has interest in them.
A leader of what and who? Europe doesn't follow America's lead, if anything they followed the USSR's. They just didn't like the idea of being ruled by Moscow, but loved everything else.
>>218271270The world would tremble if we and China united.
>>218271354>50 years laterThey only started modernizing their industry in the 90s, most of China as you know it was built up less than two decades ago they were still majority farmers even in the 2000s. In fact the US was outright aligned with China until Putin started acting up and they threw a tantrum over China not aligning against Russia.
>>218271210>european mediakek
>>218271341without the backing of Europe nobody will want to do business with us except small irrelevant half-nations.
>>218271635Europe's alternative is doing business with China/Russia, or one of the US's many partners like Japan, Korea, or Saudi Arabia. This isn't the dilemma you think it is.
>>218271635I think being less obsessive with business in general and more concerned with maritime functions and tech has been the strength of the US. There really is no competitive navy outside of the US, they inherited the world that the Great Britain built. Unironically the US should be a merchant empire like the Carthaginians because of naval supremacy, but unfortunately if you don't make threats pirates start showing up so here we are.
>>218271658>one of the US's many partners like Japan, Korea, or Saudi ArabiaThe Japanese like Europeans more than Americans, with boomers maybe being the exception. Saudi Arabia is an Islamic shithole that produces nothing but oil, and South Korea is an America vassal state.
>>218271708Japan is dependent on the US for security agreements, and unlike Europe the US is happy with what Japan is doing by increasing its defense spending in response to China.Americans aren't living in Europe's Empire, Europe is living in America's.
>>218271708Oh, and I forgot.>produces nothing but oilOnly one of the most valuable substances on Earth. Right. "Nothing but oil".>South Korea is an America vassal stateExactly.
>>218271708Japan is an American vassal as well, they also don't produce much of anything apart from media. I'm not surprised that boomers in Japan liked Americans more because that was during the Cold War, the US stopped exporting media because propaganda no longer matters there's no USSR so if there's tight trade controls they could hate the US or not even know it exists and they wouldn't care. Hollywood's last big film was Eyes Wide Shut and that was in 2001.
>>218271708who did they poll tho
>>218271727>Japan is dependent on the US for security agreements,Because America conquered and occupied Japan and enforced pacifism in Japan's constitution. >by increasing its defense spending in response to China.Japan should increase its military to one day become independent of American security, but Japan isn't going to fight China on behalf of America.
>>218271765The US has been begging them to fund their own military since the 1950s. The FBI literally called MacArthur a commie lover because of that constitution and Japan rioted when their nationalists tried to revise it in the 1950s. The fact that there's bases in Japan at all is the result of refusing remilitarization.
>>218271765I love this Eurotrash myth that the US "conquers" and "vassalizes" various countries, as if we control their economies. You're either too stupid or too young to remember that Japan's economy was so strong in the 1980's it nearly drove the whole US auto industry out of business, and really they never did recover. Not to mention the Japanese and Korean electronics industry completely upending their US counterparts. But sure. Keep believing that the Japanese are slaves desperate to be rescued.
>>218272058>Japan's economy was so strong in the 1980's it nearly drove the whole US auto industry out of business,And then America forced Japan to accept the Plaza accords, no doubt using the American military bases as levarage.
I wish we had Joe back because he at least understood the importance of Atlantacism and why it's the future going forward.
>>218272078I'm more curious as to how people predicted any of this being possible over 30 years ago.
>>218272078Atlanticism is submitting to America, its an America ideology to influence its vassals into carrying out America's demands.
>>218272075>Plaza AccordsYou mean telling them to appreciate their own currency like France and Germany and not being a banana republic reliant on exporting to foreign markets? Japan wasn't considered developed until 1985, most of Japan today is the result of a public works boom in the late 80s/90s.
