what went wrong?
>>218297054Sometimes hard things must be done for a better future, but we will always be brothers Luigi.
Absolutely nothing, it's going as right as it possibly could. So far. I wish nothing more than for Europe to entirely decouple from USA, and for Trump to find ways to pemamently break trust, accord, all sorts of international organization and make sure this rift is permanent. And as a result that he seizes power to be a dictator or whatever for as long as possible to encourage this.Worst case case scenario, Gavin Newsom wins in a landslide, undoes everything Trump did, we go back to life as a boring vassal state as democrats rule forever. Best case scenario, Trump declares himself first consul of the USA and declares his son as heir, and Europe is finally free from the American yoke.
americans were too fat and too retarded
>>218297054I blame the EU. They've done everything to ruin the Europe-US relationship because "orange man bad"
>>218297161>american trojan horse wishes we were still part of their colony's empirelmao get fuckedwhen you are the 51st state and we have enacted the continental blockade, we will starve you by the millions like you did to the irish
>>218297204Napolecuck lost, surrender monkey
>>218297204>Ad Hominem because you know he's rightHistory will look back and judge that the US was betrayed by Europe by means of Europe becoming uselessly week in military, economy, and spirit.
>>218297313>>218297312triggered
I don't care about any of these idiotic slapfights between narcissistic westoid leaders whether they're from this continent or from the overseasJust give us nukes to keep hivans away, I don't give a shit who owns Greenland
Nothing. We are monitoring the situation and we remain viglant.
we didn't bomb the germans enough
>>218297054>>218297139yuros act like uppity retards even though they are thirdies and they only exist because we guarantee their defense >>218297114yurop is a third world shithole that would get conquered by india or china without us. plus no one is voting for a faggot from california
>>218297204>>218297326That's a Jew posting under a British flag, he simps for Trump.
>>218297054we were occupied by amerikikes for 80 years and now we're finally getting rid of the occupation
>>218297054Western Rome vs Eastern Rome schism 2.0Meaning we will keep going for 1000 years as the best country in the world while they collapse to complete barbary
>>218297326Project harder, Frenchie>>218297410I'm not a Jew. You however are Muslim, Ahmed
>>218297054europe finally got a slight taste of what every other continent has been treated like by the americans
>>218297430Spotted the kike. I'm not a Muslim. Stop infesting this country, Moshe.
>>218297428Meaning you are going to be Islamacized and disappear. Sad!
>>218297425enjoy being occupied by russia and india, thirdy>>218297428france has been third world status for like 180 years now>>218297449it's just how we treat brown third world countries
>>218297462>>218297394You're trying too hard to get (You)s.
>>218297204You import fertilizer
>>218297452>I'm not a Muslim.Sure you're not
>>218297370(You) didn't bomb the germans at all
What would the downsides of the EU willingly joining the Russian Federation be? Like I get people would be mad because they'd feel like they've lost points in the imaginary game of Risk Europeans have been playing for centuries but aside from that what bad things would actually happen to you?
>>218297054Nothing. I love america even more now. Hail NATO, Support your local ICE agent and MAGA.
>>218297394We have the nuke fatso
>>218297672sure thing there, surrender monkey
>>218297692We will glass your area nigger
>>218297054Americans started threatening everyone.
>>218297672Nuke us. We have hundreds of cities and hundreds of millions of people. It won't do shit.
>>218297054Obama liked the EU so Trump hates it
>>218297717Good thing we have hundreds of warheads
>>218297204>continental blockadeYou already tried that & it failed hard.
>>218297054the EU became a pseudo russia. scheeming and back stabbing innocent americans over and over for decades.
>>218297705if we went to war, france would surrender in under an hour because you're nothing but a bunch of cowardly homosexuals>>218297713you deserve it>>218297718yuros are gay and uppity
>>218297738Sharters deserve it, they're only cattle needed to consume slop
>>218297204>Anglo defence force out in fullBodied that limey freak
>>218297054Germany and France alienated our best ally, the USA. Now everything is fucked and there is no going back. It's over.
>>218297765you literally eat frogs and snails because you're a third worlder too poor for meat
>>218297758>if we went to war, france would surrender in under an hour because you're nothing but a bunch of cowardly homosexualsIf it wasn't from us you would still be subject to the british crown you ingrate pants shitter
>>218297782Frogs and snails are a delicacy with some fine white wine, you eat corn syrup on a daily basis we don't need a lesson on food coming from an obese sharting beast
>>218297615Russian corruption levels are lightyears ahead of Europe to the point it's not even considered an issue, it's just the local custom. This plus actual totalitarian tendencies, so obnoxious propaganda and censorship shoved up your ass wherever you look. They are utterly incompatible with Europe as a civilization, since, as they claim themselves, they have a separate civilization of their own. Plus they hate the West in general, they blamed it for anything and everything for decades if not ages.What would happen if by some antimiracle Russia was in charge of Europe? Imagine East Block / Warsaw Pact, but continent wide. Poverty, degeneration, calming the masses via engineered alcoholism, violent power-tripping police, extremely low trust cut-throat society, the gap between poor people and rich corrupt aparatchiks growing ever larger, general moral rot and loss of humanity.Basically this:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_Sovieticus
>>218297054Literally just fund your militaries.
>>218297798we literally saved your third world surrender monkey asses from the germans twice after you got btfo'd twice>>218297824you eat frogs and snails like some kind of poor brown african, thirdy.
>>218297845You saved jack shit, Pétain was collaborating with germany, Europe would be in a better shape if Hitler won
>>218297114French arrogance trying to fuck over europe again. Must be a day ending in y. You guys are getting close to going over the line from arrogance to hubris. Your language will never again the be the lingua franca. You are darker than quebec, and quebec is half indio.
>>218297874>surrender monkey bragging about surrenderingyou can't make this shit up
>Eurosissies when they have to fund their militaries instead of paying for Ahmed and Fatima's welfare checks
>>218297905It's not surrendering it's strategy, but you wouldn't know that you lost against goatfuckers, twice
>>218297986so did you. you've lost every long-term engagement you've been involved in in Afrika.
>>218297986you literally unconditionally surrendered to egypt. you haven't won a war that didn't involve us bailing your asses out in over 125 years. you're a third world shithole and the laughing stock of the world
>>218297986>but you wouldn't know that you lost against goatfuckers,Didn't you lose in Algeria and Morocco and Tunisia and...?
>>218297054EU took advantage of us for too long. Shitty trade deals, constant moralizing, not contributing to NATO defense spending, worsening crack downs on free speech and other civil liberties. We didn't change, the EU did.
>>218297738>
>>218297940This. Like literally why do Euros fear being let out of their kiddie box so much? Grow a backbone and federalize your militaries.
>>218298001>>218298035>>218298090With the military budget equivalent to the gdp of a top 10 country you keep losing against farmers lmao
>>218298138Gross oversimplification. Some countries are happy about it some are notFor example Italy is not happy at all about your retreat since in their case they really did want to outsource their protection to you.France is mostly happy because it's been trying to sell weapons and it's an opportunity to again have military influence on the continent, Macron seemed insistant about leading an effort in Ukraine, however there's been issues with that.Germany is stuck in economic autism with failing businesses and didn't want to go in, but they do seem enthusiastic about taking the lead now.You also have Poland that did always spend massively on their army but is extremely unhappy and practically begging Americans to stay because of their Russophobia (i don't like Ruzzians but i mean it literally they are traumatized despite the pitiful state of the Russian army, communism gave them brain damage).Etc it goes on. Nobody in France wants you to stay and pay for us in the first place actually. You throw this argument at everybody like it makes sense.Also yes federalization why not it takes time obviously. And even then it is unsure Europe is taking that direction, who knows.
>>218298243You were literally an empire.
>>218298257Yeah you are one now too, for how long?
>>218298243you literally lost a war over the single most important waterway in the world to the egyptions and unconditionally surrendered like homosexual cowardsfrance is a third world country only famous for eating frogs and snails and surrendering >>218298245>France is mostly happy because it's been trying to sell weapons and it's an opportunity to again have military influence on the continent,kek, french weapons are worse than the shit venezuala had
>>218297054This could have been us but you decided to listen to Marx and spend multiple lifetime being klepto raiders against your own people and tried immensely hard to push that gay trooned lifestyle into us for over a century now. Marxism isn't just incompatible with American ethos, it's incompatible with agricultural ethos.It is an antimoral raider creed which has all but swallowed the age of civilization.Now you have us mired in it and perceive our mighty struggles to escape your civilization-ending web as acts of cultural aggression. It has never been more over, but it shall begin anew, with or without your participation.
>>218297114No more vague /int/ memes, tell us the ways in which France is a vassal state of the US.
>>218298292>>218298035>>218297900>>218297845lmao your shithole is collapsing so hard that you need to cope like this, it is pitiful to see
>>218298266Until the oil runs out ig.
>>218298330this. fucking yuros pushing global homo >>218298346france exists to be a navy/army base for the US military>>218298356have fun surrendering to russia and india, surrender monkey
>>218297054I love France and all you guys. All this malarkey will blow over soon enough
>>218298425>have fun surrendering to russia and india, surrender monkeyAs I said earlier we have nukes you disgusting morbidly obese freak
>>218298526you're still french, frog eater. you will surrender to russia and india like the cowards you've always been
If you smelled a French boy's butt through his underwear you would smell something like fresh baked pastry, butter, dark jammy fruits like plum, and baking spices like nutmeg and cinnamon. A french boy's but smells similar to a good bakery
>>218297727youre retarded beyond belief if you think france would survive nuclear war with the us
>>218298582A glimpse into the degenerate mind of the average american. There is a reason they keep calling everyone faggots so much, they are all sexual degenerates.
>>218298618yes, because the french are so well-renowned for their chaste and pure heterosexuality.
>>218297054american's deadly enemy is not china or russland, but eu
>>218298618What would I smell if sniffed your butt through your underwear? Be honest
>>218298564France is the most powerful country in Europe it would crush russia and india and the us >>218298564Nobody talked about survival
>>218298701our eternal ally is russland we need to defeat the chinese and eu together
>>218298736really scraping the bottom of the barrel at this point
>>218297054We're insecure and immature is what went wrong.
>>218298618you are the global homo. all faggotry comes from france and germany>>218298701eu is like the 20th strongest military. I'm more worried about the jeets
>>218298721>France is the most powerful country in Europethat's like being the tallest midget> it would crush russia and india and the uslmfao. france would lose a war to ethiopia. france isn't in the top 100 strongest militaries. you are cowardly and retarded homosexual surrender monkeys >Nobody talked about survivalfrance would surrender before launching a single nuke. you're cowardly homos
I don’t think even rusbeasts seethe this badly over the EU
>>218298930You talk a lot about homosexuality, you have something to say fatso ? It wouldn't surprise me if you were wearing a buttplug at the very moment, USA is the craddle of degeneracy
>>218298838The upcoming Russo-American ''alliance'' will be a thing to behold. I wonder how long they can go without stabbing each other in the back.
>>218298961it's just annoying that yuro thirdies act so uppity when they are thirdies>>218299013projecting. france invented blacked because the french men love black dicks. can't get enough of them. france is gay as fuck >>218299029everyone in your country looks like a hog
Just walk away. Give US your ice wasteland, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole land, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away. I will give you safety. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror. I await your answer
>>218298356you are not french. the real french are quebecois and the acadians. you are a dead end.
>>218299029 america and russia were never truly allies.
We finally got tired of European smugness and how sanctimonious they areIf we invaded mainland Europe I would unironically enlist just go get a chance to go shoot them because of how they act online
>>218299029hello my favorite fennoswede. America is here to keep you safe from those slavs that stole karelia, estonia, and latvia from you. We believe in you.
I love the US so much more now. I'm completely aligned with fucking up the EU. In one strike they give our countries back our autonomy from both the EUSSR and the US.No more forcing alphabet shit and "refugees" from higher up.
>>218297114Trvke. Except for the cringe forced gavin shilling. Kys for that
>>218297054Trump wants Greenland, Denmark doesn't want to hand it over. France and Germany want to pretend that their countries are independent and capable of standing up to America (they absolutely can't) and now we're here.
>>218299399Based, I actual enjoy the idea of America becoming an empire. Trump should lean into the EU even more. What the fuck are they gonna do, cry about international law?
>>218299153>projecting. france invented blacked because the french men love black dicks. can't get enough of them. france is gay as fuckYou imported hundreds of thousands of blacks so centuries later they can fuck your women, give me a break. USA is a filthy place filled with mutts, I can trace my ancestry back to the 1700s, full french, while you are a beast engineered by the jews
>>218299449Be careful. I'm monitoring very closely.
>>218299469shut up belgian retard. Not even the UK thinks you are are a real cunt.
>>218299451you send them to us. You are worse than hitler. At least we resisted your faggotry. Quebec and the acadians consider you worse than the anglos.
>>218299469>>218299504the famous american gratefulnessserves you right for being such a cocksucker lol
>>218299504But he's right, the most the EU is gonna do is "monitor the situation". They'll never take action.
>>218299469It do bee like dat
>>218299526shut up russian. we all know you are not a real frog.
>>218299451>What began as an artistic interest grew to a society-wide, mass fetish in France in the aftermath of World War I,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrophilialoving black cock is a french thing. the average french man sucks between 100 and 5,000 black cocks in his life time
>>218299538i really like how you talk to your henchman like a retard but not too hard, obviously you will never say "this one is on our side you moron" but everybody understood that
>>218299576 hello my favorite livonian order friend. you at least put your money where you mouth was, unlike the frogs.
>>218299580Because I'm not entirely sure if he's false flaging with a VPN or he's just that retarded which is entirely possible. Best to go with the diplomatic approach.
>>218299579You worship niggers, you even had one as a president lol, such thing would never happen in France
>>218299376same, fuck yuros
>>218299570frog is not important. his time has passed
europe went trans u.u
>>218299399>No more forcing alphabet shit and "refugees" from higher up.you're the higher up. you are the global homos. you're asking for someone to save belgium from belgium>>218299576holy shit you yuros are retarded. >no you need to vote for the yuro global homo party
>>218299741you literally invented blacked because you worship black dick
Are you fucking kidding me? Get the fuck out here dude.This is what they say
>>218297844Whats funny is that euro's (and us) should be agreeing to this. It would give whatever retard you idiots put in power less leverage if they were less reliant on US military for defence
>>218299774No we don't. We actually pay fines and get sued all the time for not treating refugees well. Which brings me to another matter: When the EU is done, we should leave the ECHR
>>218297204Based napoleonchad
>>218297054Death of WASP culture, we suffer under the yoke of troglodyte krautspawn and micks.
>>218297844>>218299793Europeans are putting more money in their armies but it was never about that
>>218299788No, a kike invented it and guess where he went to make his dream true ?
>>218299791holland is the global homo>>218299793>>218299994the issue is yuros and ausfalians are cowardly homosexuals so they will have shit tier armies no matter how much money they invest
>This threadWhy are we such an insecure posturing bunch of little faggots?
>>218299846the EU is in brussles, the global homo and migrant shit comes from belgium>>218300350a frenchman invented it and he made it come true in france. that's why frenchmen suck black dick
>>218299372You guys are like to peas in a pod, except that Russians are less smug and poorer
>>218300691You guys are handling your hegemony slipping away worse than I thought
>>218299372America is the only country neighbouring Russia that Russia has never attacked.
>>218297844Yeah. It's just empty rhetoric, isn't it?If America actually was about to go to war with Denmark, it'd be a bit odd for American leadership to pressure Denmark to improved it's military first.
>>218301281It's probably at least in part empty rhetoric, but they're also retarded and evil
>>218297054Trump got pretty hostile to EU, dunno why they decided to sour relations like that
Not a single mention of think tanks, lobbies and other methods where money talks. Atlanticists don’t exist anymore there’s only russified sphereites.Clinical mongoloid thread.
>>218297394seething magoytard
>>218301456>>218301281well a big one is big tech wanting a bigger piece of europe, we've seen musk call for dismantling the eubesides that it's for his internal politics imoamericans dislike us, and trump voters HATE us, anything that goes against europeans is a huge win for his base, massive spike in popularity whenever he makes fun of europeansthat's why he keeps making impersonations of macronthis is what this whole "arc de trump" thing is all about, they're insecure about us and want to one up us, the average american profoundly hates us and most europeans don't really understand thatevery time he says something about europeans you see the whole crowd, fuentes, musk, tate, start going on about it for dayswill he actually invade denmark ? maybe, but probably not anymore than he visited fort knoxhe will most likely just talk about if his ratings go a bit too low
>>218300705Colony mindset
>>218297054Drumpf
>>218297114They will permanently alternate between Democrats and Republicans to lure retards in with sweet-talk then fuck them. They are a single party that just changes mask depending on current international strategy.Worst thing is it will probably work, redditors will instantly forget everything Trump did the second they put a homo in charge.
>>218297428>best country in the worldI too welcome the future Caliphate of Frankistan my Frinji brother. Alhamdulillah akhi soon you'll be merged with Almania to create the glorious Western European Caliphate.
The Soviet Union fell, the relationship was based on American interest in containing USSR influence and European interest in not being USSR influenced.Without the USSR Europe has no reason to be militarily powerful, because the American led world order is good enough for them and Russia isn't a threat of the same scaleWithout Europe being militarily relevant the entire weight of maintaining the world order falls on America.The rising power is China, but China is not a threat to Europe and Europe does not look likely to go fight in the east. Making the alliance even less relevant.You'd think the Ukraine war would have reversed the trend, but it just made the contradictions more obvious.Russia proved inferior to it's imagined self, Europe proved itself militarily weak, America proved itself uninterested.There were ups and downs, but this was the outcome.
>>218297114A man can dream I don't think it'll happen though. Trump is gonna croak from being an old fat fuck within the next 5 years, and things will go back to normal without him
>>218300820>except that Russians are less smug and poorerfucking pot meets kettle, thirdy>>218301078we literally just bagged and tagged a guy who had a stronger military than all of yurop combined
Idk. I do wish Europe as a whole was more independent from the US, but at the same time I wish we could still be friends and close allies of the US. I think it would be the best for both.
>>218301219russia attacked mongolia and azijerbaijan?>>218301281>>218301322it's because you fags expect us to subsidize your defense and we'd btfo yurop even if they put 110% of GDP into military spending
>>218301663cry about it, global homo>>218301696it's because you faggots are uppity thirdies who are annoying despite the fact you're poor and we subsidize your defense and you act like the global homo stuff is us when it all came from yurop
>>218303175>that flag>that post>>218303213his term ends in 2028
just hand over greenland and no one gets hurt
>>218303415No, you will get hurt.
>>218303415No one does this
>>218303246>we literally just bagged and tagged a guy who had a stronger military than all of yurop combinedThis is what Americans actually believe.
>>218303246How can someone be this stupid?
>>218303423why would we be the ones getting hurt?>>218303492yurop is fourth world tier>>218303517probably by being yuro. it's why you fags never put a man in space
>>218303646>why would we get hurt going to war with nato and losing most of our economy in the processReally, you are the most retarded person in this thread.
>>218303306>russia attacked mongolia and azijerbaijan?Yes, in 1921 and 1920 respectively.
>>218303423>>218303492>>218303517Have you really never met a guy who just shits his pants and laughs really loud at how he makes everyone around him smell?
it looms, europoors. it looms
>>218297615Nobody wants to downgrade their living standards to the Russian ones, not even eastern europeans who are slowly catching up.
>>218299576LOL
>>218297054you tell me, Americans have seemingly lost their mind. they're completely incoherent
>>218297054US invasion of Iraq really started everything that unfolded.
are any Americans on this board white
>>218297717You only need only 20-30 ICBMs successfully hitting continental US to make survivors envy the dead.
>>218297615>loud annoying neighbour who's loud and on crack and is always trying to move his fence just a few cm into your garden>why don't you just join him and let him into your neat and comfy home?
>>218303415Most European countries learned this lesson ages ago. Many of them from the Danes, funnily enough. When someone asks you to pay to avoid a war, you ALWAYS refuse. Doesn't matter how strong they are, or what they're asking, you HAVE to tell them no. If you agree, the country that took your lunch money is going to use it to become even stronger and ask for more next year.Yeah, maybe they'll attack and take what they want by force, but if you can make it even a little bit inconvenient, you'll signal to others that you can't be easily bullied.
>>218303668the combined military of all nonUS nato members is like the equivalent of morocco. it's irrelevant. we'd blow you homos out like we did during both world wars>>218303675>tf>tp
>>218303808the least white US state is whiter than the whitest yuro country
>>218303888It's just sad how stupid you are.
Why are you guys hating each other now?Do you need my love?
>>218298613Nobody would, that's the basis of MAD.
>>218303877head of the EU says you're taking in 1 billion "legal" jeetshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWMe55Zv8_s>>218303880denmark surrendered to the nazis in 6 hours and managed to accidently sink the entire danish navy
>>218303921again, yurop is so fucking retarded the can't even put a man in space.what a retarded third world country
>>218303905seems like none of you here are though
>>218304012>going in debt over retarded dick measuring contest spending>even interest has reached the magical word "trillion"lol. nothing will save you from what's to come. also there have been Europeans in space. hell, even someone from Romania was in space, who the fuck cares you dumb mutt
>>218303981>b-b-b-but muh migrantsclassic migatard cope response
>>218304012You really are the saddest creature on Earth.
>>218297204Holy based
>>218303921>>218304126If someone took a big shit in his pants would you feel indifferent or come up to him and ask him what's wrong?
>>218304079every American poster here is whiter than the whitest pole poster>>218304086>romania seething because her country is too gay, poor and retarded to put a man in spacefox, grapes
>>218304089have fun with those jeets>>218304126>>218304157>that sounds like seethe to me. finland super power by 2020
why isn't the mutt sleeping, what is this mental illness
>>218304183He has low self-esteem and he can't go to sleep until he has owned the libs.. I mean the dumb yuros.
>>218297054when was this ever reality? europeans dont like americans because they are fat and retarded and dont have walkable cities o algo and americans dont like europeans because they are muslim and gay o algo. i am not sure europe and us ever were really "friends"
>>218297394Your country got its mighty fleet carrier groups sunk multiple times by European submarines, the shock was hard enough that you military leased the Gotland. Didn't seem to help, a decade later a couple of French ones sunk the entirety of your fleet carrier group without even being detected during their exfiltration. I think Europe will do just fine
>>218304183>>218304204It's not mental illness it's about playing for your team. He's the lowest grade human being in America. Imagine that as you notice the zombies scavenging bins for cigarette buds or leftovers from Burger King, that type of person.You don't entertain homeless people in your day to day interactions either, you just move on with your life.
>>218300705I think we got some /pol/tards here. That’s why
>>218303981>sky "news"just australian fox news kekw
>>218304183>>218304204>>218304418major yuro thirdy seethe and projection
>>218304265we're smarter than yuros>>218304268we raped and gaped you in back to back world wars. you were starving to death while our front line soldiers were eating cakes and ice creama war between the US and yurop would be an over welming American victory. the only advantage yurop has is that yuro lives are worthless so the yuros back home won't care about casualty numbers
>>218304869it doesn't change the fact the dumb bitch literally said she was fixing the migrant crisis with more jeets
What made Americans so evil and imperialistic :(they used to be the good guys who protected the weak
>>218305668>he thinks we are angry that he outed himself as a complete retardlook at the little retard go
>>218305957we protected you from the bongs, frogs and jews>>218305995>tf>tp
>>218306022>tf>tp
>>218297615>EU join RussiaIf all EU nations combined their militarys it would be more than twice the size of Russias. Why do you think a country that has barely been able to hold 10% of UKRAINE over the span of 4 years would even stand a chance? Russia will never use nuclear options unless it's a eagle's nest situation either, as every world leader no matter how delusional understands it's a suicide vest in the best case scenario.
>>218299417You will lose, magat. You will be force fed the trannification hormone medicines
>>218297054The only good american president was Roosevelt, after him everything went to shit
>>218306643>it would be more than twice the size of RussiasIt would just be a collection of multiple independent militaries, coordination and planning would be impossible
>>218297114>>218297114>Gavin Newsom winsDelusional kek even Californians don’t think this.
>>218297615Why doesn't Australia join Papua? Because you don't want HIV rates to skyrocket. Same thing with EU and Russia.
>>218306736That's literally what NATO is for and has been used as, it's not like this is a hypothetical. I have friends in the Norwegian military, they travel several times a year to participate in joint training operations and cooperation for exactly this reason. Sure it wouldn't run as smooth as a single nations military, but it wouldn't need to if it's against Russia.
>>218303392Unc will run for a third term if he lives that long
>>218297054they are both turning more and more brown by the second, if that issue is not addressed and fixed nothing else will matter in the end
>>218297054idk I like Americans
>>218308271Stop liking Americans.
>>218297114Based. I wish this as well. American's cultural exports really have ruined us.
>>218297114based
>>218297313>History will look back and judge that the US was betrayed by EuropeAs it will be written by dishonest kike lovers.>uselessly weekAt least learn to spell, you illiterate heathen.
>>218308652why
>>218303213>things will go back to normal without himLMAO. Trump is the main person preventing things from going further. >>218297313Too true for most people to admit. Whoever said Europeans have resorted to "Wakandaposting" said it best. They are too weak to kick out muslim rape gangs and protect Ukraine from Russia, yet they somehow think they can contend with the US, hold on to Greenland, federalize the EU, remilitarize without cutting their generous social programs, and economically outcompete China. Pure delusion, and it didn't even need to be this way. All they needed to do was be a reliable ally.
>>218305739>we're smarter than yurosno you are not. thats why you have to import foreigners from europe and asia
>>218310405The EU imported more people last year than we did.
>>218310512You import 80 IQ Jeets to do the math in your place because Shartmericans only learn about calculus in college. Pull the black dick from your wife you angry circumcized cuck.
>>218305739And yet a couple of afghan goat herders and vietnamese rice farmers were too tough for you lol. Should we add the houthis too since your president went there to cut a deal. You seem to be losing a lot of wars without european help.
>>218310512after wwii they have degraded very strongly. there has been negative selection going on for many generations
>Westies taught Easties to mistrust America>Easties taught Westies to mistrust Russia >Now it turns out both were rightFinally, the united EVROPA can rise and defeat its enemies once and for all.
>>218310954>You import 80 IQ JeetsAnd you import 60 IQ Africans. What's with Frenchies and bringing up black dick unprompted?
>>218297054American hegemony is dying, so America is squeezing it's satrapies for all of their remaining loot before retreating to Fortress America.
>>218297054The Marshall Plan, when we allowed you to tariff our relief goods and services in order to raise funds to rebuild your war-torn economies 80 years ago. Totally forgot all about Lend-Lease payments, too. You might have had the decency to return to the principles of free trade once you were back up and running, but Socialism/ Communism is in your ancestral blood. There's no difference in "Big Brother in Brussels" and "The King on the Hill." Its your comfort zone, and it might have worked if you'd had another of your periodic wars to thin your gibs me dat herds, but we kept the peace by playing World Policeman and buying your affections. What went wrong? "Little Brother America" woke up and grew a pair.
>>218312496Negrophilia, no matter how much they try to deny it and pin it on us, is a French creation
despite our best efforts we couldn’t inspire any kind of long term ambition in poorope. they just want to be losers, they enjoy it
>>218313043Negro, the land lease was also a massive boost to your industries that were the only ones intact and got access to markets with people no longer starving while also getting money for making the stuff needed to rebuild Europe
>>218313127*Marshall plan obviously not land lease
>>218311857>tf>tp
>>218313099Negrophilia has nothing in common with contemporary American cuckold and Blacked culture. Two different phenomena.
>>218313159Wow, I feel real bad now that the people who fucked my grandparents out of higher and higher levels of income tax on the wages they made in the sweat-shops which made blankets and fed you endless cans of SPAM got rich. Bravo. You really got me there.
>>218313328>our love for blacks is different because it’s for women ou quelque chose
why do we fight when all of our countries are getting overrun with migroids. we are in the process of losing our ancestral homelands. that is the only thing that should matter
>>218313423We're looking forward to you building up your Euro Army. Don't let them waste it on propping up grifters in Ukraine instead of kicking out Nafris. We're minding our own business now, just like you've always wanted.
>>218297114Giga based
>>218297054Code Geass predicted this.Merit-based Empire (Amerika) vs soc-dem federation (European Union).
>>218313663wagmi, eurobros
>>218313649well the problem with trumps antics is that this will lead to europeans voting for the pro-eu liberals and the technocrats. the populists (who've always been mostly pro-trump) could crumble to dust if trump does anything stupid. the average european already has TDS as well
>>218299376>>218299749
>>218313328>Negrophilia has nothing in common with contemporary American cuckold and Blacked cultureEh, it overlaps. France gave America Louisiana Creoles which is a major subsection of African-American and is basically the marriage between French and West African culture. It's also the culture that started jazz, which spawned or at least inspired basically every other genre of modern music.
>>218297054europe was acting all faggy
>>218313380Post ww2 American population enjoyed levels of purchasing power unthinkable everywhere else in the world. While euros starved you were buying cars fridges and suburban houses on blue collar jobs
>>218308716Buddy, it was YOUR fucking choice to consume them, nobody is forcing you to do that shit. Total victim mentality, it's like if I blamed Japan for anime, no I'm gonna blame my own fucking population for watching that garbage.
>>218297114Le trvke
the only way for europe to be strong is for germany to be independent. and by that i mean a new constitution and system of government that isn't an american invention that is imposed from above by an occupying power
>>218313944What a great opportunity for you to get out and educate your low information voters on a grassroots level. Trump, Putin; it doesn't matter. You need a Big Bad Wolf from somewhere else to scare them into action. Use this opportunity wisely.
>>218297394>conquered by indiawhy don't you go back there if it's that great
>>218297114TRVKE. We also need WW3 to create the will to federalize the EU and to execute all traitors and zigger lovers
>>218297114I think the same thing.I hope Trump takes Greenland, it will cement the change and those Inuit monkeys will leave Denmark eventually no matter what.
>>218313423Who made all the antiracist movies ? Black music ? Racemixing messages ? Pornography ? American occupation government ? "Denazification" that didn't just apply to nazis ? That one Poland think tank video about how to make it more diverse, remember ?Was it Europe ?Make no mistake, they will claim 3 or 4 homosexual French intellectuals are responsible for everything, but they are. Now finally white people in the US are trying to wake up a little. Best they have to say about us is they hope we all die because we are all faggot leftists, it sure makes me trust them as my white brothers, but no matter, they are failing miserably anyways. They ruined everything from the inside now they are blaming us for their shortcomings, half of them hate themselves for living on stolen land and somehow us by extension, they spend all their money on their jewish pet project, they want to have us foot the bill for their retardation. Even now as they are falling to their death they are not even reaching for a helping hand they are insulting us and blaming us for their fall and trying to bring us down with them.
>>218313944>well the problem with trumps antics is that this will lead to europeans voting for the pro-eu liberals and the technocrats. the populists (who've always been mostly pro-trump) could crumble to dust if trump does anything stupid. the average european already has TDS as wellthis happened in 2025 in canada. conservatives basically were guaranteed to win this election, trudeau had fucked everything up and even retired prematurely from prime minister and then trump just started antagonizing canada and talking about annexation for 3 days straight and a liberal won the election againpeak retardation
>>218314143>educate>low information votersdo you get your blacks to vote your way through arguments and debate? no, you give them gibsmedat, purple drank and free hennessey
>>218297114I want Trump to claim power and declare war on Europe, Mexico, Canada and China just so that they'll finally cause their downfall and all amerilards will get their due
all the tier 3 countries are weighing in!
>>218314198this. but it isn't all trumps fault. our populations and politicians are already deranged liberals, if they hadn't been exposed to a literal decade of anti-trump "journalism" they might've not reacted in such a way.
>>218297054WW2 was won by the bad guys and resulted in all of europe turned into puppet states of either the usa or ussr. After the cold war everybody became a puppet of the usa. A slave can never be a friend with his master. Europe needs to rid itself from american influence.
>>218314190true. but the solution isn't to throw our lot behind the current mainstream parties. since they are globohomo and will uphold these values that the americans imposed on us after ww2
>Fighting in Ukraine?! Oh my science! You can't make me, I'll never fight your war>US wants to take over Greenland!?! I'll fight and die for my evropean (inuit) brothers
>>218297054If I was Denmark I would just offer to sell Greenland for 7 trillion dollars. Trump might actually be dumb enough to take it, and more likely it would result in him bickering with congress to try to get them to finance this. If he actually manages to get the money then you have a god tier sovereign wealth fund that's like 25 times your annual government budget.
>>218313974...while our alcoholic brothers and fathers beat the shit out of us when their PTSD kicked in for slamming the door too loudly or not running under cover when an airplane flew too low to the ground. Yeah, good times. I wonder what would have become of them if they had stayed home instead of fighting for you? Jail time? Loss of jobs and other income? Children carted off to the orphanage? So we had the good sense to not let your war come to us, and that makes you feel bad? Cry me a river. You should have run to the Russians instead of the Amis.
>>218314497America founded their next 100 years hegemony on selling weapons to euros during ww1 while having vastly less casualties than european countries, then you did it again in ww2 and enjoyed the highest most widespread prosperity any society ever experienced in human history and now you're pretending it wasn't enough
>>218314401Guarding oil fields in Venezooella is also an option.
>>218314204You focus on the lower class. That tells me a lot about you. Use the internet we gave you to look up how middle and upper class "minorities" voted this last election.
>>218314497>I wonder what would have become of them if they had stayed home instead of fighting for you?they fought against you retardyou are unwelcome foreign conquerors
>>218313856TRVKE
>>218297615why the fuck would they do that lmaoeurope has 500 million people vs russia 140 million and the economy isnt even a remote comparison, Russia is just a cryptocolony that exports only raw materials and misery.people need to stop giving Russia more credit than it deserves, it's an abject shithole that is functionally just a large regional power with delusions of global power. It's like if you gave Turkey some nukes and a negative demography. It's not even in the ballpark of the USA/China. It's spent the last 4 years fighting a grinding war of attrition with the poorer and shittier version of Russia. Which works because they outnumber Ukraine 4:1. It'd work, eventually, against Poland and other Eastern countries too, but if Europe presented even a sort of united front Russia would completely crumble. Russia only ever managed to achieve a dominant position by triangulating between western powers and the US and once those powers united Russia was sent into a longterm death spiral which lead to it losing about half of its population and being reduced to a rump state in less than 3 generations.
Everyone seems to be vastly underestimating how spineless the EU is. As soon as Democrats regain control it's all going back to normal, regardless of 'broken trust'. The EU is not going to federalize because of all the reasons why they haven't federalized already. I respect the EU federalists far more than anyone else in Europe and they are objectively correct, but they seem to overestimate their own influence. No one is going to kick out the US military, that would require Latvia actually believing that western Europe will defend them against a Russian attack without US support. EU isn't going to start allying with China, the only country moderately serious with that was Spain and China is economically a bigger competitor to the EU than it is to the USA, also China agrees with me and thinks the EU is just a US vassal.
>>218314566And you're pretending that your wars are our fault, and all of the help you received did more harm than good. Presentism. No Thanks, No payback, only more and more reasons for us to feel bad about ourselves in order to be obligated to give you more. See, this is why we don't care about you any more.
I would rather have 5 million more illegal Mexicans in America than a single European. All I've seen on this website and real life has shown me is that Europeans are a bunch of smug, conniving, lazy, and subversive roaches that try to destroy American power through sloth and backstabbing
>>218314773Fair enough, this is probably the smartest American post itt. To be honest we are betting on USA to keep doing worse. And even democrats managing to just widen the internal issues and worsening the situation, which isn't beyond them really. And America being dysfunctional enough to really get worse and worse and be in such a bad position that there is no choice for Europe but to rule itself due to internal imperial failure.It is a bit of a long shot of course. But it is not the longest shot ever either.
>I would rather have 5 million more illegal Mexicans in America than a single European. All I've seen on this website and real life has shown me is that Europeans are a bunch of smug, conniving, lazy, and subversive roaches that try to destroy American power through sloth and backstabbing
>>218314632And then we rebuilt them. Friend and Foe alike. Having lived in Europe for 10 years, I often think that the real reason they were all butt-hurt at us was that we didn't follow their patterns of war for conquest. Almost as if by not subjugating the vanquished we were saying that they weren't worthy. We are unwelcome when we're not propping up your economies. I've seen that first-hand as well. What do you know about my country from real life experience?
>>I would rather have 5 million more illegal Mexicans in America than a single European. All I've seen on this website and real life has shown me is that Europeans are a bunch of smug, conniving, lazy, and subversive roaches that try to destroy American power through sloth and backstabbing
>>218313856HAIL BRITANNIA>>218313328>>218314190You're the ones who started with Liberté, Égalité, Fraternité, BBÇ. Not to mention France was always the country that wanted to punish Germany the hardest. >>218314198Its funny how the Canadian liberals who thought they were fighting Trump actually let Trump completely decide the result of their election.
>>218315018Where did I say that?
>>218297054Americans started favouring indians and jews
>>218315193>>218315215And the leafs come on cue to defend their European masters. Can't wait until Greenland is taken, next comes you lot.
>>218315204>Having lived in Europe for 10 years, I often think that the real reason they were all butt-hurt at us was that we didn't follow their patterns of war for conquest. Almost as if by not subjugating the vanquished we were saying that they weren't worthy.>We are unwelcome when we're not propping up your economiesIf in 10 whole years the best you could come up with is some truly insane schizo tier theory nobody actually believes in, then I'm not surprised by the apparent level of intelligence eminating from your posts.
>>218315193>>218315215Handsome fellows
>>218297114Based, I love french people and france so much it's unreal
>>218297449Brune hender skrev dette. DDS Ahmed
>>218297054The atlantic ocean is too wide, the two sides could only continue to diverge because there's so little contact between them.
>>218299576kek
>>218315303I have given multiple talking points and answers in my replies to you, while you continue to cherry pick one aspect and avoid the original topic. I welcome the understanding of your perspective, but am not amused by your methods. I am finished with this conversation, and wish you well in whatever future you build for yourself.
>>218315297>Its funny how the Canadian liberals who thought they were fighting Trump actually let Trump completely decide the result of their election.4D CHESS
>>218303691Americans will do ANYTHING to extinguish the white race to appease their jewish masters. Americans cheer at the chance to nuke europe while america itself sits at 59.2 percent white. The future world is BROWN and americans will use the nuclear option to ensure it is
>>218315755Schizoing about muh gommunism is not a talking point though
>>218315982>Americans will do ANYTHING to extinguish the white race to appease their jewish masters.EU are ready to destroy themselves. without any outside help. like the serpent Ouroboros
>>218310954>>218315727I'm starting to think every French complaint towards America is just projections of your insecurities. You lived vicariously through the British Empire because their empire was better than yours and now you live vicariously through the American empire because we are also better than you. >Rome!? That's just like my tv shows!!!>Black people!? That's just like my BBC porn!!!French "people" make these strange connections and then pretend that Americans are making them so they don't feel so bad. If you wanna make the connection to Rome, the modern EU is most like the late-stage Byzantine Empire right before it gets conquered by the Ottomans. America is more like western Europe in the 1300s going through our psychological black death to prepare us for our Renaissance. The Brits were smart enough to detach themselves from the EU before it was too late.
>>218316240lmao
>>218315727yuros be like>America is in the West therefore it will fall just like Western Rome>Haha I am very smartMeanwhile in reality New York is the Constantinople to London's Rome. Europe is a collapsing continent as IMPERIAL AMERICA moves forward into the future
I haven’t been following politics lately. What happened?
>>218315193>>218315215kek
>>218297114>that feeling when The Barron-Europe civil war is less than a decade away
>>218316463Drumpf wants to invade Greenland because he thinks real life is a paradox game
>>218297054Maybe if euros weren't such insufferable cattleslop morons we could mend things but they are far too retarded for that
>>218316463Nothing has happened.Nothing will happen.Nothing ever happens.tl;dr Reporters keep asking Trump&co whether they rule out force for incorporating Greenland into the US and they said 'no'.The thing is, Trump never rules anything out, but people treat it like he's going to go plant the flag in the frozen wasteland tomorrow.
>>218316240>>218316333Europe doesn't have what it takes. Too many converging special interests. You watered down your deal with South America because a few farmers started sperging out. Like it or not its all basically going back to normal in 3 years.
>>218298961Easy to seethe over the EU because eurodivergents are literally subhuman but extremely arrogantHaving to watch a monstrosity try and condescend you would push anyone to the brink
>>218297615the chocolate industry be poppin
>>218316234Doesn't mean much coming from a russian who is in the same predicament but from self aggrandising delsuion. You think you are the victims of the world but will do anything but work with your european neighbours given the chance. Kys faggot nigger, propaganised tool and get raped bya churka. Inavde our continent and I will bring as many of you brainwashed faggots down with me as can in some mass prespriction scenario but I'll happily help non-propgandised russians
>>218299576>fantasyLARP the U.S economy is what makes it rich, we were already the richest economy in the world prior to WW2, which is when we became the cultural-political hegemon.
>>218308716>tf>tplmfao
>>218314401>>218314401Ukraine isn't a part of NATO, Denmark is.>>218314773The 2028 election is 2 years away, if Trump does annex Greenland in those 2 years, the Democrats aren't going to give it back. It doesn't matter if the American president wears blue ties or red ties, America will continue to act in an imperalist fashion.
>>218316665Why don’t you go back to India?
Its sad to watch in real-time the mental gymnastics Yuros are putting themselves through to justify their own insanity. Europeans are literally falling for their own propaganda, and poltards are somehow falling for it harder than liberals are. >Trump wants to come to an understanding with Putin so he can focus more of America's resources on other theaters.TRUMP AND PUTIN ARE BEST FRIENDS. TRUMP IS PUTIN'S PUPPET>Trump realizes Russia has pretty much already won the war, and that Ukraine isn't getting any of their land back unless America and the EU send their own young men off to die, which would be retarded and result in civil war. Let's negotiate some kind of peace deal with Russia.TRUMP AND PUTIN ARE LITERALLY ABOUT TO PARTITON ALL OF EUROPE. ITS JUST LIKE THE MOLOTOV-RIBBENTROP PACT!!!>Trump and his administration explain in the new National Security Strategy that Europe is under threat of civilizational erasure due to a combination of mass migration, white guilt, economic stagnation, low birthrates, and stupid foreign policy. The UK is on track to be an Islamist nuclear power. It is unclear if this new Europe will still believe in shared values and be our ally. We should work more closely with right-wing European governments that want to prevent their own demise.TRUMP IS TRYING TO DIVIDE AND CONQUER US!!! THIS IS FASCISM AND IMPERIALISM. AMERICA IS BETRAYING EVROPA. I KNOW WE SAID WE CAN'T DEFEAT RUSSIA WITHOUT AMERICA'S HELP BUT NOW WE HAVE TO FIGHT TOTALEN KRIEG WITH AMERICA TO PROTECT GREENLAND FOR SOME REASON. IGNORE THE FACT THAT DENMARK'S CLAIM ON GREENLAND IS ALSO IMPERIALISM
^ ask him why he sucked off a nigger
>>218317101why did you suck off a nigger
>>218306717Always said Roosevelt should have become our Tito like personalist dictator
>>218317101why did you do it?
>>218317101dudeyou didn't understand shitare you 16 or something?
>>218316879>if Trump does annex Greenland in those 2 yearsimpossible without congressional support. President cannot unilaterally annex territory. Most he can do is move the military in, which would just be withdrawn since such a move would be very unpopular.
>>218317101yes all of europe suffers from TDS, what did you expect?
>>218313423the ruling class within america and europe dont gaf about losing our homelandsthey'd rather squabble with each other over military expenditures and whose arms industry gets to supply NATO
>>218317101Greenlanders would rather stick with danish bros than shart-in-marters- Personally I would like for greenland to be independent and intergrate with their inuit bros in nunavut but that's because im a firm believer of the idea that every people should have a state that properly represents them. TLDR; It's matter of liberty.
>>218317331>impossible without congressional supportTrump captured Maduro without congressional support. >President cannot unilaterally annex territory.Who's going to stop him? >such a move would be very unpopular.Why would Trump care?
>>218317383yes. also war with russia to artificially prop up the economy and delay a major economic recession
US flag is becoming like the leaf flag, you’re basically talking with a jeet over half of the time.
>>218316879>The 2028 election is 2 years away, if Trump does annex Greenland in those 2 years, the Democrats aren't going to give it back. It doesn't matter if the American president wears blue ties or red ties, America will continue to act in an imperalist fashion.>>218316879100% percent they won't give anything they snatch now back. if they proceed with this accelerated annexation process, they bet on greenland, canada and possibly a subjugated mexico in exchange for abandoning their sole superpower status over the rest of the world. tl:dr they'll need greenland and the rest to compensate for what they lost by snatching those places in the first place. i think pulling it off is easy, people are still reliant on the USD for the time being and they still refuse to believe that the current admin would do such a thing. it's the perfect opportunity to do it but you only got one shot. it's guaranteed that most of the world will decouple from the states after that, or try their hardest
americans are jelous of our way of lifethey cant achieve it so they try to ruin itsuccess breeds jelousy
everything
>>218317487are you sure about that? greenland has recently been trying to talk with america without danish involvement, which has made the danish government mad
>wawah we just wont you to spend more on military>nooo not like that
>>218317767>eu nations buy us anyway despite the pushkek
>>218317497>Trump captured Maduro without congressional support.The USA did not annex Venezuela. Also, that was a military operation to capture someone who was indicted in the United States and on the FBI wanted list, very different situation. >Who's going to stop him?US courts will not consider Greenland to be US territory and US law cannot be applied there. If he tries to illegally apply US law, any firm/person in Greenland could simply sue. Trump seems to want mineral extraction, but no mining company is going to start illegally operating in Greenland. Once Democrats regain the presidency, it would be as simple as a military withdrawal, something Democratic administrations have done often and in this case would be popular. >Why would Trump care?Presumably he cares about JD Vance getting elected in 2028, and that's not going to happen if he puts all his political capital into map painting. Main reason Trump won in 2024 is that voters perceived the Democrats as caring more about social issues and the Ukraine War more than personal economic issues, Trump making acquiring Ukraine his signature policy is like that times ten. Recent polling shows a military intervention in Greenland polling at 7% approval, which is a hair above lizardman's constant, despite the fact that Trump and Miller have floated it.
>>218317752Greenland's government's prime objective is just to extract as many gibs from Denmark as possible.
>>218317331I heard someone predict that Trump will likely put more pressure on Greenland and Canada after the midterm elections are over because of how unpopular it would be. But there is a chance he tries to do it before his meeting with Xi in April so he has more leverage in negotiations. >>218317665I think Trump and his administration know America's status as the sole superpower cannot last much longer, so he is using the last of our power as the global hegemon to ensure we remain the strongest pole in the upcoming multipolar world and secure his legacy. That's why he's emphasizing the Monroe Doctrine (so we don't have to compete for influence in LATAM), kidnapped Maduro (We can no longer rely on Saudi Arabia to maintain the petrodollar since apparently they didn't renew the agreement mid-2025. Our shale oil is too light and sweet so we need Venezuela's oil), take back Panama Canal (to control shipping lanes and access between Atlantic and Pacific), annex Greenland (natural resources, control Arctic trade), and Canada (natural resources, land, national security. And Alberta has lots of oil).
>>218317665>if they proceed with this accelerated annexation process"Annexation process" requires a congressional resolution, which is not going to happen.
>>218317752Really? I would like to see that- Can you provide some kind of information about this. I've mostly seen greenlanders be at most indifferent about this or be heavily opposed. They're surely not 100% satisfied by being a part of the danish kingdom but the alternative seems much worse unless they can get their full independence which is what Im hoping for
>>218317948https://www.ft.com/content/3e4f3d23-8853-4a64-a6d1-ce6eb2896514> Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy. Email licensing@ft.com to buy additional rights. Subscribers may share up to 10 or 20 articles per month using the gift article service. More information can be found at https://www.ft.com/tour. https://www.ft.com/content/3e4f3d23-8853-4a64-a6d1-ce6eb2896514 Greenland’s foreign minister has floated the idea of meeting the US alone without her Danish counterpart, in a sign that American tactics to drive a wedge between Nuuk and Copenhagen could be working.> Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy. Email licensing@ft.com to buy additional rights. Subscribers may share up to 10 or 20 articles per month using the gift article service. More information can be found at https://www.ft.com/tour. https://www.ft.com/content/3e4f3d23-8853-4a64-a6d1-ce6eb2896514 Some US officials believe that Washington could offer money directly to Greenlanders to tempt them to form a deeper relationship with America. But Danish and some Greenlandic officials point to Denmark’s generous welfare state, especially on healthcare costs.Its probably just a ploy to get more money from Denmark though
>>218317992>Please use the sharing tools found via the share button at the top or side of articles. Copying articles to share with others is a breach of FT.com T&Cs and Copyright Policy. Email licensing@ft.com to buy additional rights. Subscribers may share up to 10 or 20 articles per month using the gift article service. More information can be found at https://www.ft.com/tour.https://www.ft.com/content/3e4f3d23-8853-4a64-a6d1-ce6eb2896514What the fuck is this. Did FT not let you cooy and pasta from the article?
>>218317992>>218317992Can't even access those articles without paying so Im sorry to say it but unless you'll reitrate their points then I can't take them for fuck all (I will not pay)>Some US officials believe that Washington could offer money directly to Greenlanders to tempt them to form a deeper relationship with America. But Danish and some Greenlandic officials point to Denmark’s generous welfare state, especially on healthcare costs.Its probably just a ploy to get more money from Denmark thoughThat-s purely a bribe though, many woukd yield in any country given the chance. Id you removethat and only focus on the genuine feeling of the greenlandic people then the tale might be different. If the greenlanders truly would want to be american then I would support them but I have my doubts about that when the only people telling me that are americans
>>218318301Idk about "being American", but its ostensibly possible (if someone more competent than Trump is put in charge of this) that the U.S could offer Greenland something like Greenlandic independence in exchange for U.S ownership of some % of their natural resources with U.S basing rights (already have) and U.S obligated to defend Greenland.
>>218318389I guess that's a reasonable arguement. In that case it would be a case of whether greenlanders put their eggs into the european or american basket. It's a shame tht no greenlandic basket can exist amidst that question.
>>218297054Zognald Drumpf won
>>218318301I think the theory is you spend $55B, give each Greenlander $1M, and they agree to annexation. Kind of a bribe, or its just conditions. I would personally take $1M for another country to annex my city. The retort would that would be that the USA would just break the promise and not pay, but I actually don't think that would happen since this Supreme Court has been pretty consistent on honoring indigenous land treaties. However, as an American taxpayer, I would consider that wasteful government spending. I don't actually believe Greenland holds any value other than just being big on a map. Its mineral wealth is overrated.
>>218316711>Doesn't mean much coming from a russian who is in the same predicament but from sehistorically, germanic tribes were very warlike. >You think you are the victimsi think everything will be fine.western eu will join a union state with eastern eu (russland). but not now. approximately around 2100-2150
>>218318590>give each Greenlander $1M, and they agree to annexation.Won't happen. Greenlanders currently have free healthcare and free university as a part of Denmark, and they can vote to become independent at any time, and as Danish citizens they can live and work in the rest of the EU while also keeping all of their fishing rights from the EU since the territory of Greenland isn't part of the EU. America can't offer Greenlanders a better deal.
>>218318590Personally I believe this whole greenland debacle to be mostly a strongmans attempt at collectivising his divided nation to put any focus away from his personal unpopularity in a huge percentage in his own people. There are other facotrs to consider and which I disagree of course
*BRAAAAAAAPPPP*
>>218318821>Won't happenProbably not, but you seem to be under the assumption that Denmark would strip them of their Danish citizenship, and that Danish citizenship is worth $1M. And of course the USA would have to vote to acquire it, which is also not going to happen. Realistically, most people would agree to be annexed by China for $1M.
>>218318824Its really more about map painting to strengthen his own legacy. Its a poor way to put focus away from his personal unpopularity because its an action that makes him even more unpopular.
>>218318821>as Danish citizens they can live and work in the rest of the EUIf that's worth $1M then why did Brits vote to give it away for free?
>>218318496I agree that's a shame. I support national sovereignty and self determination, but in Greenland's case, they just don't have the population or environment to sustain themselves as totally independent without having a "sugar daddy" nation propping them up in some way.
>>218318990>Its really more about map painting to strengthen his own legacy.Which is a prime strongman policy>Its a poor way to put focus away from his personal unpopularity because its an action that makes him even more unpopular.I wouldn't be surprised if the geuine thought process in trumps mind was to distract from the epstein files with all these international headline incidents as well
>>218297054The west should be one giant federation, to stop the U.S or any bigger western nation from dominating said federation, it should get balkanized into smaller regional countries. The New Jersey Plan model of the senate should be adopted in this wider federation (1 country has 2 senators, regardless of population), with whatever the equivalent of congress is being more population based. The federation would use a singular currency, have singular internal market rules (ideally E.U based ones at least vis a vis agriculture), a single army. Should even the west fail to be able to federalize like this, what hope does humanity have?
>>218319060Farage lied
>>218319223>The west should be one giant federation,this is a very dangerous situation both for west itself and for other countries
