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lock in. do the work.

What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

**Comprehensible Input Wiki**
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Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
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>Books on linguistics and language courses:
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>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
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>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
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>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
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>/lang/ inpoot torrents
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>Refold Anki decks
rentry.org/refold

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Spotify algo figured out I'm learning Swedish so it's been recommending me some good stuff lately.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h0dmA5OJrI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxaUV4GaihY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJTpkE2fYdc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pp_lF93LNg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK9cQeT767w
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>>218317619
I'm not studying Swedish but it's hard to deny they are incredible at making music. Thanks for sharing.
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New challenge:

>Easy (A1-A2)
I live in a small city.

Where is the train station?

I’m going to buy some bread today.

>Medium (B1)
I didn’t go out because I was too tired after work.

If we leave early, we can avoid traffic.

Can you explain how this works in simple words?

>Hard (B2+)
Even though I understand the idea, I’m not convinced it will work in practice.

If I had known earlier, I would have made a different decision.

The main issue is not the cost, but the lack of clear planning.
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5th post bump cpr
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I’d like to get some pros and cons :
> Finnish
> Russian
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>>218320274
Russian probably has a lot more content so you'll be more likely to make quicker progress. Either way, learn the one you like.
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>>218320274
Babe, we've been doing cost-benefit analysis for hours. Please just pick a place to eat I'm so hungryyyyyy.
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>>218315900
>TL dictionary definition on the back
Purely performative.
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>>218318424
>簡単
私は小さな都市に住んでいます。
駅はどこですか?
今日はパンを買いに行く。

>中級
仕事後は疲れすぎたので、出てこなかった。
もし私たちは早く出れば、渋滞を避けることができる。
これが使いようになることを簡単に説明できる?

>難しい
概念が分かってるのに現実に使えるのか、まだしかねる。
Not sure about the others
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>>218318424
Ich wohne in einer kleinen Stadt
Wo befindet sich der Bahnhof?
Ich werde heute etwas Brot kaufen

Ich ging nicht raus denn ich war zu müde nach der Arbeit
Wenn wir früh losgehen können wir den Verkehr meiden
Könntest du mit einfachen Wörtern erklären wie es funktioniert?

Obwohl ich die Idee begreife, ich bin mir nicht ganz sicher dass es konkret klappen wird
Wenn ich es früher gewusst hätte, hätte ich anders beschlossen
Es handelt sich hauptsächlich nicht um Kosten, sondern um Mangel an deutlichen Planungen
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>>218320555
I like both :( except Russian culture isn’t great unfortunately, especially now
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Just imagine yourself learning Russian, yes russian, that fucking disgusting, nasty, putrid language. fucking inserting it into your brain. Having that goblin speak inscripted inside your memory.
Now imagine people doing that deliberately to themselves.What have the world come to?
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>>218320274
Assuming you're the same anon as >>218292208
Finnish is probably your best option out of all of these (in the sense you can actually use it, has a fairly decent amount of content and educational materials too). But it's also probably the hardest to learn out of the three, as it's non Indo-European.
In regards to Russian, if you want something close to PIE and possibly depressing, just learn Lithuanian lel. On a serious note, a lot of content (of very varying quality), a diverse number of speakers and their types. If you only speak English and French (based on the punctuation/flag), not the easiest language to learn for you, but the other ones you listed aren't much easier.
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>>218315900
Has learning a new language helped you in getting jobs?
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>>218322343
French was a slight advantage but I doubt it actually made a difference
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>>218322214
Awwww thanks / Lithuanian is the closest to proto indo European and looks as difficult as them all too. But very cool
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>>218322343
No I like rare and useless languages !
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Why is Finnish so hard to find free resources ? :(
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>>218322752
It's lowkey a meme language, but it's not that hard to find textbooks if you know where to look.
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>>218322343
Never turn your hobbies into a job. It will suck the fun out of it.
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Is there a free alternative to clozemaster?
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>>218323411
Why meme ? :/
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>>218325127
High difficulty combined with low Power Language Index score.
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Integrated Chinese or the official HSK textbooks?
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I know the answer is just more listening but man, I've been listening for so long, I can listen to ebooks and radio shows and TV and stuff, but then some macaco gets on the mic and mumbles in in-game chat while english and spanish is being said and I can't understand anything.
The video that filtered me btw,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ11V9QeFTg
how long does it actually take to be native-level in your understanding? Like I can listen to everything, and then I find some funny accent or bad microphone or something and I can understand nothing.
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>>218325307
at least the root stays consistent. in korean the root would sound different every time
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>>218325898
start speeding up the playback of the input you can understand. Work your way up in 0.1 increments until you're fine with 2.5x or 3x playback speed.
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>>218318424
>下級 (甲一 ー 甲二)
小さく都市へ住みたる
駅の何処候ふらむ
今日、わがパンを買ひて参らばや

>中級 (乙一)
仕事後で疲れ過ぎしかば、外え出でせず
早く居れば、車の通り避かるかも
貴方は優しく言葉で事が作用説明せりなむ

>上級 (乙二以上)
思いつき心得たりを、実際に働かつわが説き伏せてず
前に知らば、別の決したるらむ
費用が主たる故障たらずに、貧しく立案たるぞ
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Putting adjectives after nouns is stupid
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>>218325307
Is Hungarian worse (not counting the grammar stuff) ?
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>>218318424
Ich lebe in einer Kleinstadt
Wüsste gerne wo man den Bahnhof finden kann.
Ich hab vor, mir ein bisschen Brot zu holen.

Heute Abend habe ich drauf verzichtet, rauszugehen, denn ich war einfach komplett ausgelaugt nach der Arbeit.
Wenn wir früh aufbrechen, können wir dann irgendwelchen Verkehrsstau vermeiden.
Könntest du mir in einfachen Worten erklären, wie das funktioniert?

Obwohl ich die Idee im Grunde nachvollziehe, bin ich mir davon nicht so sicher, dass es in der Praxis eigentlich funktionieren wird.
Hätte ich früher davon gewusst, hätte ich eine grundverschiedene Entscheidung getroffen.
Das Hauptproblem ist nicht der Preis, sondern den eklatanten Mangel an Planung.
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>>218318424
In Portuguese:
https://voca.ro/1nNIY599VuW8
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>>218326403
Yep.
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>>218325898
Well, anyone here get that far, where you're actually native-like?
Not just the c2 bullshit, but as far as understanding goes you don't have to think, don't have to focus, don't get confused by some fast talking or whatever, you're just locked in and can listen with heavy background noise while not paying attention while sleepy and not caring about said topic?

Because I mean actual native-level listening, I figure I'll be there in a few more years but I want to see how many people actually ever get there.
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>>218325898
I've seen a video of native Spanish speakers reacting to different Spanish accents and they had a difficult time understanding some of them so you shouldn't feel that bad about it.
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I decided to speak Spanish with the accent of an Aragonese sheep herder.
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>>218325898
Accents and bad mics can filter you even in your native language though. Like sometimes I'll hear heavier British accents and have no fucking clue what they're saying even though it's supposedly English lol.
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>>218328079
>>218328216
True somewhat, I just don't want to get filtered so often is all. I know they have more accents than pokemon in spanish but I still can feel myself being filtered much more often than a native should be.
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>>218322343
well I was already a jobber before I started studying languages, but since then I've reached a whole new level of jobbing.
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It seems my suspicions about Russian Through Propaganda were correct
It makes no sense how someone could get comprehensible input from propaganda and it's just a very average 'fill in the blanks' grammar textbook for the classroom and translation exercises
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https://youtu.be/Hh59wo1GpVk?si=M-3aZb6IKyatBKK1
i will memorize the lyrics of every scottish gaelic ballad until fluent
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>>218318424

>Lett (A1-A2)
Jeg bor i en litt by.

Hvor er togstasjonet?

Jeg vil kjøper brot i dag.

>Medium (B1)
Jeg dro ikke fordi jeg var veldig trøtt etter jobb.

Hvis vi drar tidlig, vi kan unnga traffik.

Kan du forklar hvordan dette fungerer med enkle ord?

>Vanskelig (B2+)
Selv om jeg verstan konseptet, jeg er ikke overbevist om at dette vil fungerer i praksis.

Hvis Jeg hadde vist, jeg ville ha laget en annen avgjørelse.

Hovedproblemet er ikke priset, men mangelen på tydelig finansiering

>>218321207
What a faggot take. Russian culture is one of the most refined in the world. Even with the current propaganda machine Russia produces great pieces of art. Learn Finnish if you want to be gay.

>>218328216
I have a thick accent and I speak fast. When I used to work with guys from New Zealand they would complain about me being incomprehensible. I was compared to Boomhauer once.
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>>218317619
Really like the first one. Thanks.
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218306623
Too old in the sense that by the time I reach a casual level in two or three years I will be too old to enjoy a Japanese adventure. Being an underpaid young man at the end of the world is cool if you're, well, young. And you also feel less like grinding as you get older, and even though each language takes so much time that any differences are not that significant (100-200h more or less when you need 1500 or 2000 to "learn" a language), there are different entry thresholds. I could be wrong, but it seems to me that this script takes up the most space in Japanese. The grammar doesn't seem complicated, nor does the pronunciation. Cultural autism, taboo differences, etc. are everywhere
>>218326765
Damn, Portuguese is cute and goofy at the same time
>>218320274
Less vs more speakers. Isolated vs semi-lingua franca in Central Asia and Eastern Europe. Better disco funk and arguably better metal vs better other music genres (Finno-Ugric languages are made for disco and funk). Richer economy vs. bigger economy. Usually shy but fun when drunk people vs. very talkative but aggressive when drunk people >>218317619
I'm jealous. I've been learning a language where I haven't been able to find any new bengers, and yet in other languages I've discarded, I find gems effortlessly every now and then. Portuguese and Japanese are winning this one for now. I think I like the sound of this, because I swear J-rock has to draw musically from bossa nova.
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>>218331685
Fuk
218306623 #
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I am on chapter 8 of the New Penguin Russian Course and I am having fun
Russian seems like an interesting language with great content, something rare
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>>218322343
Hard to become an English and German teacher if you don't learn the languages, so yes. I've thus far only been doing small substitution gigs though.
I should also learn Swedish and study it at a university for 60 credits, so that I could more easily get a job, since most schools want to hire someone with the English+Swedish combo, which most language teachers have. Being able to teach German in addition to those two could make it easier to ge a job
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>>218330324
you need to learn the difference between infinite verb forms and present tense. since your mothertongue is likely english, you are basically fucked in the head and the only way to think about this in your language is to do it in third person singular, because there, the indicative present tense form gets an additional -s (to get -> he gets)
it also appears you have either learned some dutch, afrikaans, or maybe even german before, and are mixing it into norwegian. quit that.
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morning bump
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>>218322343
Yes. Knowing Jamaican Patois helped me get into the business of smoking marijuana with mi bredrens
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>>218318424
can i use extra tabs to find vocab i don't know like these other people?
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>>218330324
wow... first, see >>218334419
second, you also need to learn what V2 is
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>>218334419
>>218339476
The based Angloid does not concern himself with woke nonsense such as linguistic terms
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>>218340074
>I like adversity for the sake of it
I mean, you do you
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the anals of history
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>>218340338
>anal
hehe
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What a gigabrain
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오늘 밤 유글리시로 배우기 시작한 겁니다. 오디오가 없으며 글자로만 외국어 독학은 덜 유익하다고 생각합니다. 외국어를 배우려면 원어민들의 발음과 근본적인 흐름을 듣어야 된다고 생각합니다.
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>>218318424
οἰκέω ἐν κώμῃ σμικρῇ
κοῦ'στι θἁμαξόσταθμον;
ἄρτον τι σήμερον ὠνήσομαι

οὐκ ἐξῆλθον κεκμηκὼς διὰ τὸ πεπονηκέναι
ἐὰν πρωῒ 'κπορευώμεθα, τὸν ὄχλον πῃ ἀλευσόμεθα
ἆρ' ἔχεις ἁπλῶς φράζειν κῶς ἔργον πρήσσει τοῦτο;

κεἱ συνίημι τὴν γνώμην, οὐ πέποιθά μιν εὖ χωρήσειν ἔργῳ
εἰ πρότερον ᾔδεα, ἄλλως κεν ἔγνων
τὸ κεφάλαιον οὐχ ἡ δαπάνη, ἀλλ' ἡ ἀπορίη συμβουλευμάτων
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Is there a good video or something on the spanish word "se"? It seems randomly placed I don't get it.
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>>218318424
Non sono uscito perché ero troppo stanco dopo il lavoro.
Se partiremo presto, eviteremo il traffico.
Puoi spiegare in termini semplici come funziona questo?
Quantunque io capisca l'idea, non sono convinto che funzioni nella pratica.
Se avesse saputo prima, avrei preso un'altra decisione.
Il problema principale non è il costo, ma il manco di pianificazione.
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>>218343071
Tienes un ejemplo particular? Hay dos o tres usos que pueden confundir al angloparlante.
1) 'Se' se usa como la voz pasiva en espanol. Por ejemplo: acá se habla inglés.
2) 'Se' se usa también como la voz media. Por ejemplo, 'me fumo este cigarro' para indicar que un nivel de posesión sobre el objeto que se consume.
3) Para indicar un accidente. Por ejemplo: la bebida se le cayó de la mano.
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>>218326149
based
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Italian is so epic
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must continue to shill goose goose duck/among us
that is mass watching/mass playing in TL

>brain learns by error prediction, limited repetitive context allows for more accurate predictions
>only need to know around 4k words to be functional, normally need 10k+ words for general native media consumption
>full native speech/grammar use. full level language use with constrained vocabulary allows you to get a feel for how the language works and become conversational way faster. this is the opposite of a lot of CI material which has the problem of having way too large of a vocabulary range but very limited sentence constructions
>once you get good enough to play you have a comfortable non-awkward environment where you can talk to natives anytime 24/7
>most major languages have a player base
>its surprisingly easy to make irl friends
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>>218318424
Vivo en una ciudad chica.
Dónde está la estación de ferrocarril?
Hoy voy a comprar pan.

No salí porque estaba demasiado cansado después del laburo
Si salimos temprano, podemos evitar el tráfico.
Podés explicar cómo funciona esto en palabras simples?

Aunque entiendo la idea, no estoy convencido de que funcione en la práctica.
Si lo hubiera sabido antes, hubiera tomado una decisión diferente.
El problema principal no es el costo, sino la falta de planificación clara
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bump
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Bump
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>>218350778
Why are you doing duolingo? I found it horrible for russian
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>>218351559
hmmm then what other platforms can i use?
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>>218351691
Youtube
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>>218351732
okay i have that in mind but i need another one
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>reading Harry Potter et le prisonnier d'azkaban
>cooking some chicken tenders with rice and bellpeppers
>gonna watch NFL playoffs later on mute while listening to german current event podcasts

pretty cozy, rainy saturday night
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>>218351771
You dont. Theres millions of vids you can benefit from
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Reminder to create a Youtube profile where you only watch TL vids in order to algorithmmax.
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>>218352257
I did this, but I rarely use that profile.
I want to immerse in videos and improve in my TL, but even if I understand 90%, it's just so much easier to watch shit in English.
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>>218351691
(1) Start with reading very easy texts to get the base vocabulary down (pronouns, basic adjectives and verbs etc).
(2) When you have the basics down I recommend you watch "A Complete Guide To Every Fundamental In Russian (The Conclusion)" by thelanguagebro on youtube just to get a coverage of all the basic grammar. You only have to watch it one time imo, given that you feel like you can understand the grammatical concepts.
(3) Read graded readers and mine sentences. I recommend Olly Richard's russian short stories. After that you can read whatever basic stuff you want. I read the russian translations of azumanga daioh and squid girl, focus here is to read something simpler/easier that you wouldn't mind reading in english or your NL. When you feel comfortable reading you should just read whatever you find enjoyable and manageable.
(5) Watch youtube videos intended for learners. I found it better to skip on watching stuff until my vocabulary was good enough for the A2/B1 level stuff since anything beyond that is extremely boring and they have to speak so slow that you barely actually make any gainz. I only just started mining audio cards from youtube videos and it's really good.
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>>218352257
I don't have youtube profile at all
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Anki is effective but kills the fun. It's easier and more enjoyable to think about the language and look things up to see how something is said and why. The downside is that you might not need to check something because you're sure you know it, even if you're wrong and it's slower. On the other hand, I used a pre-made Anki deck for English and found errors in the English-to-English explanations.
>>218352257
Or watch logged out and save things in your browser as bookmarks. The problem with algorithms is that they provide a lot of videos on "how to learn a language", "methods they won't teach you at school", etc. and if you're not a wise person like me, you'll end up clicking on some of them eventually and wasting your time
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>>218328089
lol
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>>218352652
>if you're not a wise person like me
If you don't praise yourself, no one will.
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>>218352652
Personally I've never understood the craze around Anki. I've been able to acquire very large vocabularies in foreign languages by just reading a shit ton of literature and news, and the way I see any time spent with flashcards is time not spent reading.
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>>218353906
It's a matter of judgment. All this magic of UX/UI specialists, marketing psychologists and flashy thumbnails works for me. So I limit myself by simply not logging in when I need to do something specific on YouTube.
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>anki
Literally a waste of time. You're cramming words like the answers before an exam and then forget them right after you close the program. You won't remember words unless you create images around them in your head. That's why some words immediately remain in your memory from a first look while others are quickly forgotten no matter how many times you cram them.
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If this doesn't "create images in your head" you are illiterate.
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what are some good Serbian resources around a A2 to B1 level? Making decent progress with a basic course and some books from the library but having a hard time finding specifically videos in Serbian with Serbian subs.

zasto sam izabrao da učim srpski...
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>>218354938
To be fair, if these are cards with pictures and/or example sentences (and preferably from things you have read, listened to, watched) then it works and you remember everything well. Then you have them close to your mind and easy to reach, like an item on your desk instead of in a drawer. I just don't feel like doing these lessons, especially since I had a hard day, didn't have much time and simply wasn't in the mood to take the mini exam.
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>>218354938
Objectively false. Anki is scientifically proven to work because of how the forgetting curve and spaced repetition works.
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>>218355583
Yes, but creating these cards is a waste of time that could be spent on more necessary things.
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>>218356473
like?
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>>218356221
Alright, cramming answers before an exam certainly works. A student remembers them and maybe won't even forget after passing it. This doesn't need to be scientifically proven, children learn the multiplication table the same way.
But how does this change the fact that the stupid cramming of words over weeks is a less effective way than creating a strong association with them?
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>>218356826
Like arguing with the anki-sectarians in your tl.
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>>218356473
i press one hotkey to make cards

a study found that you get 80% higher word acquisition with just 25% of time spent in anki with mined cards (same amount of total input time). anki is OP
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>>218357014
That is not a proper way to use anki. Adding word pairs is very ineffective. You can take entire sentences (short ones) that have the word you wanna learn and put it on one side of the card, and put the translation on the other. This way you are not merely memorizing the translation but learning this word in context. And it works.
>But how does this change the fact that the stupid cramming of words over weeks is a less effective way than creating a strong association with them?
Anki is the most effective tool for learning vocab there is because it utilizes all those memorization mechanisms you would use anyway but does it in the most efficient manner. You would learn a word naturally by encountering it over and over again while consuming content in your TL. Using sentence mining in anki you do the same thing but more efficiently, making sure you memorize the word as quickly as possible. Of course you can't learn a language just by cramming vocab but it simplifies the process by an order of magnitude.
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>>218357014
>cramming of words over weeks
That's not what cramming is. Cramming is when you put off studying something and then suddenly try to memorize all of it at the last second. Anki requires consistency. Making associations for the words is good too but most associations require repetition to keep them in your long-term memory. You should ideally use both. That's why the back of my anki cards have example sentences to remind me of the context I mined them from.
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>>218357804
Look for a thread in the anki forums talking about DR0. The developers of FSRS6 found out that the optimal way to use anki is to disable spaced repetition completeley.
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>>218317619
You are learning Swedish and you had never linked to this song

https://youtu.be/aTJncWndUB8?si=wen66htZyb_ccumz

which apparently is in Swedish. The cultural and scientific impact that Sweden has had (they discovered many elements of the periodic table) despite being relatively small in terms of population is crazy.
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>>218318424
I must be fucking retarded with these. I feel like my brain shuts cold off for them. I could come up with my own sentences in TL expressing equivalently complex concepts and using grammar at a similar level up through at least Medium but trying to convert what somebody else wrote from NL to TL makes me short circuit somehow. Happens iyc???
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Loveable, Koegnisegg, Spotify, Avicii, abba, Zara Larsson, Swedish house mafia, Carl Linnaeus

i dont think any country with a population of under 30 or 40 million has had the same impact across many areas as Sweden.

The only thing is that many of their biggest cultural exports only make songs in English.
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also Acne Studios
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does anyone else feel like there's two-character kanji words for literally anything and everything, even stuff you're surprised there's a specific word for? i feel like that
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>>218352456
how do you mine sentences on the books and audio? can you describe the process
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>>218358451
Sweden is the 3rd largest exporter of music behind the US and UK because they have huge artists in almost every genre or whatever

>>218358733
there are thousands of characters and forming new compounds with them is common place, just like how in german there's a needlessly long compound term for basically anything you can think of
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>>218359822
Tell me more about estonian
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>>218360514
It's a Finnic language that has elided case markers, lost vowel harmony, gained palatalisation, gained a new vowel (Õ), so it's finnish if it wasn't mongolesque and didn't have unnecessary vowels everywhere
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>play Claire Obscura in German the entire day
>write 50 new vocabs in my Anki's deck
>pretend that I'm doing something useful, because it's improving my German

At least it's not wasted time. I know I should be studying for university instead, I have an exam on saturday.
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>>218342520
I like your neologism for train station. In modern Greek we have a similar word "αμαξοστάσιο".
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>>218356221
>Anki is scientifically proven to work
Anki only works if you enjoy that kind of method of learning. If you find it boring as shit, you won't use it for very long lol.
Only efficiencymaxxing scrotes really enjoy using it.
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>>218354248
Reading is gods SRS system, and is vastly superior.
The reason why ankicels love it is because they are all weebs whose languages have scripts they need to learn before they can start reading.
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What book has every meaning of the word "set" used several times?
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>>218364854
>every meaning
I doubt there is a book that covers enough contexts to where it would have every meaning.
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>>218315900
I am turk born and living in germany ( I do see myself as german but that is another story), but my turkish is incredibly bad. I want to learn japanese and I know that immersion is the best technique, so can anyone recommend me good books for beginners to read through?
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>>218365429
Turkish women are hotter, so learn that.
Japanese is only worth learning if you want to play or read obscure shit that was never translated, or if you want to move there - which you have to be realistic with yourself about. Consider wagie life there. Pretty grim...
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Can anyone please transcribe these moonrunes? The first is 马 but the rest puzzles me.
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>>218365890
>Japanese is only worth learning if you want to play or read obscure shit that was never translated, or if you want to move there - which you have to be realistic with yourself about. Consider wagie life there. Pretty grim...

Is this about immersion? because honestly the online Japanese ecosystem is sizeable. They have their own 4chan and also if you get a kindle you can buy probably buy ebooks in Japanese. I dont have experience with that but its just the fact that Japanese people use western platforms and payment systems, something that does not happen with China. I also dont think he is making a calculation about utility, he is interested in Japanese culture.
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>>218366030
looks like it could be 马些瓦些? looks like it could make sense depending on context
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>>218365890
actually I want to learn japanese, so I can watch, play shit in japanese and because of these white guy speaking chinese videos. Randomly beeing able to just speak japanese sounds fun. But you misunderstood me anon, this is not a a or b thing, it's a "do you know any books for immersion for beginners"
>Turkish women are hotter, so learn that.
sadly, very very sadly, I think german ones are hotter. Turkish girls do like me, but I rarely like them and only the ugly ones like me anyway. Plus
>you can't have sex with them (mostly) and other thousand rules
>>218366152
yes, but not for japanese, but for turkish. I am a turk, so I can already speak turkish, but it is just bad. I just want some books to become better.
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>>218366438
Thanks!
>looks like it could make sense
It's from some "chinese tattoo fail" thread so maybe not :)
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>>218366438
woa, it does look like that. well recognised
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https://youtu.be/R6mRhBGkPoI

I came across this video while searching for pathologic gameplay
I then realized there are millions of people's who upload their playthroughs and get no views, in other languages not english. How sad
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>>218326765
You may want to know what the world ",traveco" means. It's useful to introduce yourself
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Learning basically all the German's combat terms.
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>>218352500
based
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>>218343623
>Se partiremo presto, eviteremo il traffico.
Se partiamo presto, eviteremo il traffico

>Puoi spiegare in termini semplici come funziona questo?
Puoi spiegarmi in parole povere come funziona?


>Se avesse saputo prima, avrei preso un'altra decisione.
Se lo avessi saputo prima, avrei deciso diversamente.
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>>218368698
Even if you do playthroughs in English you probably won't get views unless you're exceptionally funny or an attractive girl
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>>218365429
just use jpdb.io and learnnatively.com
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>>218369559
I don't create playthroughs but if I do it should only be for fun because as you said no one willing watching them

I was pondering how sad it is, and there are millions more like that
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>>218343623
>Il problema principale non è il costo, ma il manco di pianificazione.
la mancanza
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>>218369882
It's not sad if they enjoy making them and aren't chasing views or money
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>>218355573
https://languageplayer.io/en/sr/youtube/browse - random videos with subs
https://serbian-reader.com/readingbooks/ - some paid graded readers
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=audio+knjiga - audio books, try to find the text on anna's archive and follow along.
https://www.languagereactor.com/video-file - if you can't find subs for a video, you can try the "Generate from audio (ASR)" option but i'm not sure how well it works for serbian. alternatively, you can set up Whisper AI on your own machine and try to generate subs with different sized models.
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https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj1NIntTAy7qgBmjBd9J2zI0A9coO6PQq
Heavy Rain in Polish gameplay because I have no life
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>>218368775
imagine that someone is learning your language and this is how you repay them. They should learn Spanish instead desu
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jT3a3lWEQBg&list=PLscFx0v8Pvuf5P4Pl2ZlNxqdj3Z66kOn_&index=2&pp=iAQB
Russian sounds so ugly and mechanical. I bet watching that same gameplay in German would feel so smooth next to this
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>>218368807
no clue what game this is, but it looks fantasy-ish. to me it's very kino that in fantasy settings, german translators and writers employ almost an idiolect with archaisms and unusual language use from today's perspective. i play an rpg where the game makes it a point to only use honorifics and respectful pronouns, but instead of "Sie," it uses "Ihr" -- which is a staple in fantasy german.
what game is this tho, looks interesting
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>>218373401
have you ever taken a deeper look at russian? it's a very... "idiomatic" language, i.e. almost everything is a fossilized idiomatic phrase (at least so it seems to me) and they tend to be very soulful and cute, almost medieval in a sense. that said, i played heavy rain on ps3 in german and somehow that "JASON!!!!! JAAASOOOOONNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!" scene was even funnier than in the english videos i had seen of it. interesting concept for a video game, but a lot of it is goofy in pretty much every language. imo it tries very hard but very often there is like an objectively funny decision you can take in the overtly scripted events of this game and i at least felt so tempted to always choose the funniest option over the moral one, and it paid off, because it is, again, really goofy.
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>>218373562
Curious to know if you’ve tried Russian ? Because honestly… I’m debating. At the same time I ordered a book on a non Indo-European language so I would probably wait. It’s the birthplace of proto indo European languages. But…. Makes me mad at the same time because politics, the way it sounds, grammar and cursive
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What is the stage called where you can understand over 90% of google translated english tweets into your target language but can't understand literally any nativenigger content? I purposely avoid nativenig content and just read tweets and maybe translated anime because I have zero interest in modern Chinese culture
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>>218374339
Textbookcel Vs slangmaxxed
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>>218373833
yes i have. just avoid any and all politics from that region, it will depress and upset you. personally i think it sounds beautiful, and there's a lot of great media. i think it's a very tortured part of the world, but if you ignore politics (as you should, it's a fruitless endeavor and a fool's errand anyway), it's quite charming. beware though, it's definitely different. at this point i think russia has more in common with china than it could ever with europe. it's a different world altogether. but i don't dislike it wholistically, it's just the politics of it that give me a headache
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fool_(2014_film)?useskin=vector
watch this man, there's a lot of soul in it, it's probably one of my favorite movies of all time
https://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5806579
https://www.opensubtitles.com/en/movies/2014-the-fool
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>>218373833
>>218374765
ah wait, maybe you don't have a rutracker account, here's the .torrent
https://pomf2.lain.la/f/bionpefi.torrent
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>>218358451
>>218359822
Sweden is top, even in the USA in the music industry they are what Jews are among lawyers
But aside from that, some languages are better for music and some are worse for music, whether it's the sounds or the cultures. Italian, Swedish, Japanese, Portuguese, and even English are perfect for singing. I also highly value Finno-Ugric languages like Finnish and Estonian:
https://youtu.be/EMBq6Gg3fSw?si=XoZ9gmmdBsbmVhdd
Or
https://youtu.be/FEb68L-3UWY?si=dFOe-2nyhCBHB3ZU



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