[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / r / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/int/ - International


Thread archived.
You cannot reply anymore.


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: izgj6336.png (19 KB, 300x250)
19 KB
19 KB PNG
death to peppa edition

What language(s) are you learning?
>Share language learning experiences!
>Ask questions about your target language!
>Help people who want to learn a new language!
>Participate in translation challenges or make your own!
>Make frens!

**Comprehensible Input Wiki**
comprehensibleinputwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

Read the wiki:
4chanint.miraheze.org/wiki/The_Official_/int/_How_to_Learn_A_Foreign_Language_Guide_Wiki

Useful links:
>Free language‐learning book archive:
mega.nz/folder/INlRkAQC#CthKI9-_kmDNyrOx12Ojbw
>Books on linguistics and language courses:
mega.nz/#F!Ad8DkLoI!jj_mdUDX_ay-8D9l3-DbnQ
>Assorted language resources and some nice visual guides:
pastebin.com/ACEmVqua
>Torrents with more resources than you’ll ever need for 30 plus languages:
https://archive(dot)ph/x0dFH
>Russianon’s list of comprehensible input resources:
docs.google.com/document/d/1wXd0V32TjCFsr1-F_en_lA4MI-i7JtyYf26cWLtPRec
>Massive collection of textbooks on various languages, sorted by family
theswissbay.ch/pdf/Books/Linguistics/
>/lang/ inpoot torrents
rentry.org/inpoot
>Refold Anki decks
rentry.org/refold

Previous: >>218482164

Challenge

Easy
I’m tired. I’m going to bed.
Are you going to eat that?
Can you pick up some milk on your way home?

Medium
The guy who fixed my car last time doesn't work there anymore.
I tried calling three times, but she ignored me.
I wish you'd told me sooner—I could've helped.
Sorry, I didn’t catch that—could you say it again a bit slower?

Hard
The old are not really smarter than the young, in terms of sheer brainpower. It is just that we have already made the kinds of mistakes that the young are about to make, and we have already suffered the consequences that the young are going to suffer if they disregard the record of the past.
>>
it's crazy how shitty most of the pre-amde anki decks are. you'd expect there to be higher quality full decks for all major languages after all these years
>>
>>218577846
Self made decks are the best
>>
>>218577846
i expect a bunch of ai/generated decks tos tart appearing soon
>>
>>218577804
Tha mi sgìth. Tha mi a’ dol dhan leabaidh.
A bheil thu dol a dh’ithe sin?
Am faod thu bainne a thogail air do shlighe dhachaigh?

Chan eil am balach a chàirich mo chàr an turas mu dheireadh ag obair ann tuilleadh.
Dh’fheuch mi ri fònadh trì tursan, ach leig i seachad mi.
B’ fheàrr leam nam biodh thu air innse dhomh na bu thràithe — dh’fhaodainn a bhith air do chuideachadh.
Duilich, cha d’ fhuair mi sin — an can thu a-rithist e, beagan nas slaodaiche?
>>
English has more lip rounding sounds than Korean. Unironically it forces English speakers to age faster than Korean
>>
bump
>>
can someone give me discord inv please?
>>
>>218578403
forks cause aging
>>
File: 1767965639962505.jpg (54 KB, 976x850)
54 KB
54 KB JPG
βάμπ
>>
File: vvbfhj.jpg (249 KB, 1080x1421)
249 KB
249 KB JPG
>>218577804

Has anyone tried this ?

I only want to be able to READ German only for academic purposes. Don't care about talking or listening
>>
>>218577804
Tá tuirse orm/Táim tuirseach
An n-íosfaidh tú é sin?
Is feidir leat roinnt bainne a phiocadh suas ar do bhealach abhaile?
>>
>>218577804
fessus sum, cubitum eo
edesne illud?
uti sumas modicum lactis domum rediens quaeso

alibi fungitur munere suo qui currum reparavit meum ultimus
tris vocavi eam sed aurem non praebuit mihi
utinam antea dixisses, adiuvassem
veniam peto non teneo rursum dicas quaeso lentius

senes non callidiores iuvenibus ob ingenium ipsum, sed vero et erravimus iam iisdem rebus ac iuvenes mox errabunt et eadem passi sumus ac iuvenes passuri si quae memoriae prodita sunt nihil referat iis
>>
bump, arcere mortem
>>
Anyone who claims Bulgarian is any easy Slavic language is lying to you
They say this because it has no cases, but it has other shit that is just as bad, or actually worse
You see, every verb is conjugated for person, number, tense, voice, mood, aspect, evidentiality, and gender (male, female, or neuter)
Bulgarian retains the aorist tense from proto-indo-european, which is also found very rarely in Georgian and Armenian, and also in Ancient Greek and Sanskrit
The aorist tense indicates and action that took place once at a specific time in the past but given it's unfamiliar to basically any other living language, it's difficult to get used to
It also has the future-in-the-past tense (and a perfect variation of it) for actions that occured in the past, but after the time at which some other event being discussed occured. Why would you need this?
Even more painful, Bulgarian also has a grammatical feature called "evidentiality" that I mentioned earlier.
This is where verbs are additionally changed according to how it is that you know the action in the sentence occured
There are 4 categories of evidentials:
The indicative (I know the action the verb describes took place because I saw it happen myself)
The inferential (I didn't see it happen, but I saw other evidence that convinces me that it happened)
The renarrative (somebody else told me it happened, and they witnessed it first hand)
The dubiative (somebody else told me it happened, and that person heard it from someone else, and so on)
So - in Bulgarian you cannot ever simply say "the man kicked the ball", or "the dog ate the bone".
You MUST modify the verb every time you speak to explain your source of knowledge
This makes writing fiction in Bulgarian weird... what form or the evidential should the narrator use???
But yeah, all of these features combined, you have hundreds of potential forms for each verb
Maybe not all of them are used, but still, possible to make. It is a nightmare
>>
>>218577804
Ich bin müde. ich gehe ins Bett.
Hast du vor, das zu essen?
Könntest du mir auf dem Heimweg einen Karton Milk holen?

Der Typ, der letztes Mal mein Auto repariert hat, ist nicht mehr da angestellt.
Ich hab dreimal versucht, sie anzurufen, aber jedes mal hat nicht ans Handy gegangen und mich einfach ignoriert.
Wäre mir lieber gewesen, hättest du mir drüber viel früher Bescheid gegeben. Ich hätte dir dabei helfen können.
Entschuldig ich habe das nicht mitbekommen. Können Sie das bitte ein wenig langsamer wiederholen ?

Die Alten sind eigentlich nicht schlauer als die Jüngeren, wenn es um reinen Gehirnschmalz geht. Der Unterschied liegt darin, dass wir schon dieselbe Jugendfehler, die die Jugend bald begehen wird, begangen haben, und noch dazu haben wir die Folgen dieser Fehler schon gelitten, die Folgen, die die Jugend auch zum Begehen verurteilt ist, wenn sie dem Testament der Vergangenheit keine Acht schenken.
>>
>>218583935
some of the best pasta this thread has seen of late
>>
languages are stupid english is all you need
>>
>>218577804
Peppa ist so tot wie die Kasus
>>
File: 1762369208244402.gif (246 KB, 352x200)
246 KB
246 KB GIF
>>218582197
Yeah, it's good. Official /lang/ seal of approval.

>>218579794
No.

>>218577846
Not crazy when you consider that everyone makes decks with their own goals in mind and has different ideas of what is important and in what order it should be studied. You have to know exactly what you're looking for in order to find it or at least a deck that you can morph into something usable.
>>
>>218584833
Lingua Anglica est lingua utilissima in mundo toto sed aliae linguae bonae, et non stupidae sunt
>>
>>218584000
>einen Karton Milk holen?
einen Milchkarton holen?
>>
>>218585795
eine Tüte Milch
>>
>>218546848
Genuine question: are you a retard?
>>
>>218585237
>Yeah, it's good. Official /lang/ seal of approval.

Thanks, Serb-bro.
>>
>>218577804
Ich versuch's, mittele Schwierigkeit.

Der Kerl, dass meinen Wagen letzte Mal ausgebessert hat, dort nicht mehr arbeitet.
Ich versuchte dreimals zu sie anrufen, jedoch übersah sie mich.
Ich wünschte, du hättest früher es gesagt. Da ich helfen können hätte.
Entschuldige mich, ich habe nicht es erfasst. Könnten Sie langsamer wiederholen?
>>
>>218585601
wtf I can understand this
>>
>>218587155
>Könnten Sie
Könnten Sie das
>>
>>218585795
I was channeling my innner german zoomer and using a random english word
>>
>>218583935
Languages aren't made to be easy go learn tranny pona or cucksperanto if you want an easy language
>>
>>218587170
vere? tibi gaudeo
>>
File: 1759507538697253.png (217 KB, 655x599)
217 KB
217 KB PNG
>>
Does anybody have any good resources or tips to learn the language Dyula? I wanna learn it for my West African girlfriend.
>>
>>218590464
> West African girlfriend
ISHYGDDT
>>
File: 1767564994415678.jpg (110 KB, 1280x720)
110 KB
110 KB JPG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlyZ3HS_TKA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mf22ZIZO2ec
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC79ODvgSeI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO_pZTv_J6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9_DdgrAmfA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6cgmg9AjyE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uCi0PrSFVc
>>
>>218591458
What's wrong with a West African gf
>>
You'll see anon. You'll see.
>>
>>218585237
starter decks are still useful if quality
>>
>>218577804
Ma olen väsinud. Lähen magama.
Kas selle kavatsed sööma?
Kas saad ostma piima, kunas naased kodusse?
Will try the harder ones some other day.
>>
I just... don't feel like inpooting
>>
Ⲛⲟⲩϥⲣⲓ, ⲡⲉⲕⲣⲓⲧⲓ?
>>
Yeah alright I'm killing myself
>>
>>218595167
Say that in your TL
>>
>>218595167
How will you die though? There are hundreds of possible methods to choose from...
>>
>>218595382
Lying on a railway with your neck on top of the railway steel and your legs facing away from the railway is a good method. It's about as instant and painless as you can get.
>>
Spanish is hard
>>
I managed to conclude administrative business in my target language :-) I consider myself A2 though, but standard TV speech I understand 50-90%, especially with subtitles.
>>
File: 1762351947255623.jpg (101 KB, 769x696)
101 KB
101 KB JPG
>>
File: haben order.png (444 KB, 1486x804)
444 KB
444 KB PNG
>>218587155
idk if you want corrections from an american, so if not just disregard

>Der Kerl, dass meinen Wagen letzte Mal ausgebessert hat, dort nicht mehr arbeitet.
>letzte Mal
should be letztes Mal
>dort nicht mehr arbeitet
should be "arbeitet dort nicht mehr"

>Ich versuchte dreimals zu sie anrufen, jedoch übersah sie mich.
should be anzurufen bc anrufen is a trennbar verb.

>Ich wünschte, du hättest früher es gesagt. Da ich helfen können hätte.
Should be "ich wünschte mir, du hättest es mir früher gesagt, weil ich hätte helfen können.

I really struggle with the rule for that last bit in terms of where hätte goes when you have a modal (können) and an infinitive to (helfen). Pic related.

>Entschuldige mich, ich habe nicht es erfasst. Könnten Sie langsamer wiederholen?
idk but to me nicht should come after es. Also I think it should be können not könnten. Also repeat what? I'd stick an es in there.
>>
>>218582197
Yeah I think it's a pretty decent textbook but there's not enough input in it to acquire everything it teaches and French for Reading is better but this has more exciting reading excerpts
>>
>>218597886
esne italicus prior qui lingua latina exercitationem scripsisti? si es, poculum parvulum cafeae tuum gusta perge.
>>
>>218595167
me too some day soon probably
>>
I no longer take someone's language learning advice seriously unless they've learned a real hard language like arabic or korean

learning something like german is so easy by comparison that youre almost guaranteed to get there if you put in lots of hours even if your methods suck
>>
>>218595863
i plan to die a klingon's death doing something cool and stupid while filming it
>>
File: 1768390273612642.png (584 KB, 689x855)
584 KB
584 KB PNG
>>218598321
nae sum hercle, interdum /lang/ certamini me committo sententiarum vertendarum et eam ob rem sursum impello filum si semimortuum videam
>>
output is kind hard
>>
>>218595167
I found out today that there are actually a lot of people who (figuratively and literally) keep a noose in the house, not because the necessarily plan to use it, but because it gives them comfort as sort of an "escape hatch".
And the reason is because we were optimists believing that our dreams/objectives were more easily attainable than they actually are. But when we try and fail, we want the comfort of knowing that there's a way out, instead of knowing that we have to keep trying or accept never achieving what we want.
>>
Has studying languages made you more or less racist? Before learning Chinese I used to think they were "intellectually sovereign", but a totally insane amount of their vocabulary now are calques of Western words. The suffix 性 which is everywhere and means -ness/-ity was only picked up by 明治 era Japan and spread to China in the early 20th century. They colonised their own language with superior White words that we had used for millennia, and it was one-way only. Imperial Chinese is actually extremely oogabooga at times
>>
>>218598750
studying asian languages has made me more racist against white westerners as a white westerner

there's just a deeper level of animalistic violence built into indo-european languages than asian ones
>>
>>218598926
Are you retarded? The character 漢 literally depicts a screaming slave
>>
>>218598971
i havent studied chinese, only vietnamese korean and japanese
>>
lang is dead
>>
俺しかエロゲーで日本語勉強してる人いるか?
>>
>>218600283
gott sei's gedankt
>>
>>218600283
that's what you get for not putting a hot girl and subject in the op
>>
do you enjoy your mothertongue? personally i like mine a lot
>>
>>218600980
I genuinely despise English. It feels as soulless as Esperanto.

If I wasn't EFL I'd never learn it.
>>
>>218601031
same
>>
File: 12345.png (1.21 MB, 3322x942)
1.21 MB
1.21 MB PNG
>>
>>218598971
>The character 漢 literally depicts a screaming slave
who the fuck told you that
>>
>>218598971
>The character 漢 literally depicts a screaming slave
I want to believe
>>
>>218598971
kek
>>
File: anki_oXuhplbIqc.png (52 KB, 423x1075)
52 KB
52 KB PNG
So using yomitan can someone help me make this not look like absolute dogshit? For one thing why is there
>""
in the example field when I have no parameters set for it. And also theres a million definitions when I have it set as
>{glossary-brief}

Thanks
>>
apprentisage de langues étrangeres
>>
>>218600980
Portuguese is glorious; Camões is glorious; Os Lusíadas are glorious.
>>
>>218601031
With a decent British accent It gets better to me. I woold day It gets an elegant aura
>>
File: firefox_uRVUzfrfnN.png (232 KB, 479x479)
232 KB
232 KB PNG
Me gusta chelas wey y musica de Satán. Me gusta chelas demasiado.
>>
>>218595167
Anon you can't. You've got to do your anki reps tomorrow.
>>
I think there was a language learning normie fad during COVID lockdowns and the year or so after they ended. Now with very advanced AI translation and even further decreasing attention spans from doomscrolling tiktok, it's less popular.
>>
>>218602712
i believe statistically more and more people are getting into language learning every year

and it will probably continue to accelerate with new tools for input being developed and new CI being made
>>
Tajik is proof that Persian looks better in the Cyrillic alphabet
>>
>>218600505
How do I into Kanji? I learnt the Kana fairly quick but my mind just struggles with Kanji it seems.
>inb4 learn radicals
>inb4 grind Kanji flashcards
>inb4 grind vocabulary/grammar
I've tried all these but it feels like I'm on a road to nowhere if none of these are building upon each other and seem to go off on respective tangents -- as most learning resources are wont to do. I just want to read and listen.
And yes I'm slightly retarded.
>>
>>218603813
Ask in djt
>>
>>218603813
The way I see it you have two paths. You either grind RTK first, learn to read, then bridge to spoken japanese later or ignore the kanji completely at first, lean on spoken + furigana and then when you have a decently sized vocabulary redo a vocabulary deck without the audio and learn how the words are written.
>>
I've been pondering this as a ritual each day for months
>>
>>218604603
>>
>>218603995
/djt/ tells me to grind vocab.
>>218604116
Thanks. The second option speaks to me.
>>
>>218604982
*appeals. Stupid autocorrect.
>>
>>218602712
I don’t think AI will ever eliminate the need for a human translator or to learn the language for yourself. In the same way, I don’t think AI will eliminate or make redundant jobs that require expert judgment like being a lawyer. This is because the tool is only as good as the person using it, and it might as well be useless if the person giving inputs and interpreting outputs has no idea what they’re doing. You can’t tell if what it gives you is correct or not for your specific context. It’s particularly bad when AI is as it is now and ultimately is only giving you a prediction of what it thinks should come next. I bring up law as an example because you’d think it’d be an obvious place where AI would be better than a human, but law, like language, involves a lot of expert judgment in employing the best tools and techniques to accomplish something. Even with AI and countless free tools at their disposal, laypeople never stop fucking up legal things when they try to avoid using an attorney. I feel like language will be much the same way and someone using it as a crutch will cause a lot of miscommunication.

Thank you for listening to my TED talk.
>>
>>218605202
translation is one area that improves pretty steadily. you can also train specialized models for narrow tasks.
or write programs that mix ai with traditional translation pipelines and checks and fallbacks
>>
tfw will never go to japan 10 years ago
sad
https://youtu.be/M6wm1tMIZF8?si=MSjYtHMgE10DbjR2
>>
>>218603813
>>218604982
in terms of radicals, you have to be aware that characters are made out of components (easier to memorise components than each individual stroke) but playing etymology and trying to decipher what a character means and sounds like each time you see a new one isn't going to work out well (like you'll never guess that 漢 water + man being burnt alive in a rain summoning sacrificial ritual means "Chinese")
grinding kanji in isolation won't achieve much either, there's simply too much to memorise at once and you won't know how to apply that knowledge well when actually reading for a while
this is why learning actual complete words is just the best way to learn anything in japanese because you should be able to pick up on any patterns that are clearly visible and not hidden by literal thousands of years of linguistic evolution, otherwise most learning will have to be pure memorisation like it is with any other language
>>
How the fuck do I find the motivation to get through the first 3 months of boring word learning before I can do some input?
It's just so damn dull
>>
File: 4044.png (672 KB, 1024x576)
672 KB
672 KB PNG
>>218577804
>Easy
我困,我会睡觉。
你会吃那吗?
在回家的时,你能不能买牛奶?

>Medium
ཚེ་སྔོན་ན་མོ་ཊ་ཕྱིར་བཅོས་བྱས་པའི་མི་འདི་ན་ལ་མི་པས་སོ།
འདོན་སྤྱོད་ཀྱི་ཚེལ་ཤེས་པར་བྱས་པའི་ལན་གསུམ། ཡིན་ནའི་མོས་ང་དོ་སྔང་མ་བྱས་སོ།
ངས་ཁོ་མགྱགས་པོར་ང་ལ་བཤད་འདོད། ང་ཕནད་བར་ཐུབ་བོ།
འགྱོད་པ་བྱེད་དེ། ངས་འདི་མ་འཁུམས་པར་ཤེས། ཡང་ཁྱོད་གྱིས་ག་ལེར་བཀའ་སྩལད་བར་ཐུབ་མབ།

>Hard
ཀླད་པའི་དབང་གི་སྒོ་ནས་རྒན་པ་དེ་ལ་གཞོན་པ་ལས་མཁས་མིན། ངེད་གཞོིན་པ་མགྱགས་པོར་བྱའི་འཁྲུལ་དེ་ལྟ་བུ་བྱས་ཟིན་དེ་ཙམ་བ་ཡིན་པར་དང། ངེད་ཐལ་འགྱུར་གྱིས་མནར་ཟིན་པར། འདས་གྱི་ཟིན་ཐོ་སྔང་ཆིང་ན་གཞོན་པ་དེ་མནར་འགྱུར་རོ།
>>
>>218604629
Fuck is this shit
What's so "foreign language syndrome" about this? When I had my cock mutilated at a hospital and was anesthetized lying on a hospital bed and in dream land I was begging for death in English too. This isn't some bizarre condition or anything else, the guy just had good Spanish and did most of his thinking in the language so it booted up faster than his mother language did.
>>
>>218606509
Choose something to input from and then learn the words that will appear in your input.
>>
>>218605872
>grinding kanji in isolation won't achieve much either, there's simply too much to memorise at once and you won't know how to apply that knowledge well when actually reading for a while
Exactly my predicament. Feels like I'm doing God-knows-what for God-knows-why. Not a great feeling.
>this is why learning actual complete words is just the best way to learn anything in japanese
You mean learning them phonetically?
>>
>>218607787
What happened to you bro? Are you alright?
>>
>>218608291
Circumcision
Yeah, wasn't going to use it anyways
>>
>>218607787
>>218608325
You didn't get circumcised shortly after birth? Why later in life?
>>
>>218600980
its the best. I love english for all sorts of reasons. great literature/music, the lingua franca, an analytical grammar, doesn't sound ugly, spoken among white people, elaborate vocabulary, etc etc.
people these days love to hate english, but I hate them. english is dope. if spelling is a languages biggest issue, count yourself lucky. (especially when that spelling is alphabetic; it could be so much worse.)
but it spoiled me - on one hand, in english you don't have to know all the weird grammatical fuckery found in other languages, eg. super complex inflectional systems, and to me that's a pro for the language itself, but that also means you don't know any of that for when you go to learn foreign languages.
>>
>>218598151
appreciated

I think the corrections are vastly useful.
Maybe
>dort nicht mehr arbeitet (incorrect)
>arbeitet dort nicht mehr
could be «dort arbeitet nicht mehr», which would use the same emphasis I was looking for.

>Also I think it should be können not könnten
I believe könnten is correct, subjunctive is more polite, similar to Italian.

----
I didn't know the haben stays at the begin when it is used with an infinitive, as a special case it confuses me as well.
>>
>>218606509
Language is verbal before anything else
Why are you not already listening to the language you're trying to learn?
>>
Why the fuck does English have so many damn vowel sounds?
Spanish only has 5 and English has like 20
>>
>>218608607
I listen to Spanish rock music
Probably not the best way to learn since cadences and word choices aren't gonna be like speaking but I like music
>>
>>218608678
Listen to podcasts or something like that as background noise
Even when you don't understand anything it still trains your ear to the sounds of the language and you'll start picking up patterns subconsciously
>>
>>218608653
because it's a Germanic language
compare to other Germanic languages:
German 18 vowels
Dutch 17 vowels
Swedish 18 vowels
>>
>>218608819
Why did Germanic language become so vowel heavy while Latin ones didn't?
>>
>>218608534
>Why later in life?
Muzzo shit, here I believe it's normal to have it done at 8 or so
>>
>>218601379
Pls help Yomitan gang. My ocd cannot accept cards like this. Yet manual mining is becoming too much
>>
>>218598750
A ton of modern Chinese words were invented in 19th century Japan as translations of western concepts and then borrowed by Chinese, but because they use Kanji it's hard to figure it out.
>>
>>218601221
You can read about it on wiktionary, the most comprehensive free source for hanzi etymology:
>The component to the left as a result of a contraction appears as a variant of 堇, which is the pictogram of a screaming man burned alive as a sacrifice
>>
>>218610240
I don't know much about it and judging by the look of the flashcards, I think you've probably already seen this video, but I want to help you in any way I can, so I'll send you the tutorial I saw.
https://youtu.be/KxLRp1yd8Ro?si=FpbqVyKwvL4a9hwU
>>
>3 hours to download an 80mb pdf from anna's archive
>>
>>218611868
slow internet nerfing my lang gains
>>
>>218606509
Anki kills your motivation by being extremely gay and tedious.
Install Lute, simply go through a text once with lookups and then re-read it periodically to review.
You can do as much as you want per day and you decide when you've gotten enough from a text.
And of course, you can pick whatever you want to read.

>>218611868
Scroll down, there's a hidden "show external downloads" button to reveal Libgen and Z-Library mirrors. They're usually pretty decent speed.
>>
>>218606509
just get through it quickly, grind 100 frequent words per day in Anki, I got to 1000 in only 10 days and everything feels like CI now
>>
>>218598750
The "totally insane" amount of words in question:
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Category:Chinese_calques
About 500-600 including place names
>Superior white words
Many of those coming from Arabic, Greek, Latin...
>>
>>218601379
The main thing you should have on the back of the card is the thing you are going to grade the card on. Try to find the core meaning of the word you are learning which should be what's common between all the dictionary entries (and normally related to the etymology of the word) then write down one or two NL words that roughly capture that. Entire dictionary entries are useless bloat.
>>
>I’m tired. I’m going to bed.
Estou cansado. Vou dormir.
>Are you going to eat that?
Vais comer isso?
>Can you pick up some milk on your way home
Podes comprar leite quando voltas para casa?
>>
>>218590464
Don't know much about it, but some tips for learning obscure languages from personal experience:

1. the best resources may not be in English. In this case maybe it'd be French? It may be worth learning French if the resources are much better
2. closely related languages may have more widely available resources and may share lots of things in terms of grammar, phonology, vocab, etc. Some weird grammatical feature in Dyula, Bambara, and Mandinka might be best explained in a Mandinka textbook.
3. Download literally any book in the language you can get your hands on. Try Anna's archive
4. Learn IPA and use that with printed dictionaries if you can't find online dictionaries or pronunciations
5. Check for mormon, fsi, or peace corps resources. They do lots of obscure languages.
6. Look for places online where people actually use it for sentence mining. It could be a facebook group or subreddit for some Dyula-speaking city
>>
>>218605444
translating a webpage or even youtube video on a computer and real time translation of having dinner with your in-laws are two very different things

plus translation is never really a perfect 1:1 input/output. Words not only mean lots of different things that can be misinterpreted, but also words carry certain contexts that can easily disappear in translation.

In Tagalog for example, "kuya" is usually translated as brother, but it actually means something like "male around your age that you respect, probably slightly older." You call you cousin, friend, brother, but also some McDonald's worker "kuya." Sure, you could just translate it as brother or bro, but without knowing the real meaning of the word you lose a lot of the actual information being conveyed.

>>218612389
is there any real advantage to lute over languagereactor? Just that it's FOSS?
>>
should I drop french for thai?
>>
>>218615942
Yeah. Thai is a better language for girldick acquiral
>>
>>218615807
>is there any real advantage to lute over languagereactor?

LR is actually a lot better, but tracking words is a paid feature. I mainly use it for watching YouTube and pirated content where I only care about quick lookups and dual subs. Lute is free and specifically for intensive reading, tracking words and mining workflow. It's simple and good enough for most languages, but admittedly it requires tinkering and workarounds for Asian languages (there's better alternatives for them, but you have to ask around in their communities).
>>
I'm genuinely curious, is there anyone here learning an obscure language just for shit and giggles?

I was thinking on dabbing on the Afar language of Ethiopia but I barely have time to do anything other than wageslaving
>>
>>218617491
I am doing that with Scottish Gaelic. I’m also considering insularceltmaxxing and learning Welsh.
>>
>>218617491
There's a guy learning Tibetan or Bhutanese on this general
>>
>>218617491
Multiple people here are learning Scottish Gaelic and Irish
>>
>>218577804
does it count if i'm not actively learning?
anyway, i learned as a kid by playing minecraft pocket edition on a US server, that alone got me like, basic level english, then is tarted watching videos on youtube and shit, not videos teaching english, just videos in english
>>
>>218617491
>learning afar in 2026 instead of a real language like nuosu
ꀊꆌꅿ...
>>
File: nuosu.jpg (618 KB, 1280x1856)
618 KB
618 KB JPG
>>218618425
most kino writing system out there
>>
>>218618425
>>218618482
lmao I dabbled in this when I was 15 and bored on school library computers
>>
boomp
>>
>>218617558
Welsh is actually spoken unlike Scottish Gaelic
>>
>>218619850
Wrong. I will find my Ròs Gàidhealach who will speak it with me.
https://youtube.com/shorts/MCCB9fDD0ak?si=faa6IK-cAjmd7JVm
>>
>>218620035
Okay but I meant properly.
>>
>>218605202
AI will eliminate the job you know of as translator. In the future a "translator" will be closer to a proof reader who reads through the original book and the translation and makes changes where necessary, rather than translating from scratch.
>>
>>218620067
That doesn’t eliminate the job. It only makes it more efficient. You still need a person with expertise in both languages to proofread and/or make changes based on his experience and judgment. There’s usually no one-to-one perfect way to translate something like a book without considering what makes the most sense in terms of tone and intuitive feeling.
>>
>>218620067
you forget that most companies DGAF and will just pump the ai translated slop through and fire their entire translation departments because (profit-wise) it would be stupid not to.
Imagine you can translate your books to ANY language you want for a cost of peanuts
my prediction is that human-translated novels will become especially prized while floating on a giant sea of AI translated slop. Academic writing and nonfiction will be 100% AI tho
>>
File: IMG_6047.jpg (264 KB, 1170x1253)
264 KB
264 KB JPG
Is this true
>>
How do I stopped feeling raped after an Anki sesh
>>
File: Magia Azure2.png (121 KB, 300x413)
121 KB
121 KB PNG
>>218603813
I know RTK is useful but I haven't gotten around to it yet. My kanji knowledge comes mostly from working through the Core2k6k deck for vocab and gradually recognizing radicals in the kanji and how certain kanji are used in multiple contexts. Like how 教 is used in the verb 教える but also used in religious contexts like キリスト教, or how 総 in 総理 means "general, all" and is composed of the radicals for "thread, public/government, heart" and trying to make a mnemonic story out of it to remember
>>
>>218620957
go do something else? if they're taking you long, sorry
>>
>>218620610
Maybe. Nobody really knows how it works.
>>
>>218620957
Remind yourself that you asked for it and that the pain means it's working.

>>218620610
Yeah, input you don't understand is useless. It's like raw noise unless you put in the effort to decode it i.e. listen to the podcast with a transcript, pause after every line and lookup the unknown words and translate the sentences to fill in the gaps. Listening to shit that you don't understand and hoping it will magically make sense doesn't work.
>>
>>218621148
you talk very condescendingly so I'm going to ignore your advice
>>218621295
I hope that's the case, I'll do an hour of anki and legitimately feel like my brain is melting by the end of it. I hate it by the end but I know it's the best way to make myself memorize stuff long tem
>>
>>218621295
What if I understand little bits, say the sentence is 16 words and i understand 4 or 5 words?
>>
>>218594723
This looks like Coptic i think. If you're thinking of learning please do realize it's completely dead and probably won't be revived any time in our lifetime despite coptcuck dreams of the contrary. Would piss off the pisslamists too much but that's a long story. Don't bother if you're not obsessed with it the only people who can speak it are desert monks and shit
>>
>>218621391
Useless. You should be aiming to understand full sentences and recognizing an isolated word here or there is often not enough to even understand the gist of what's being said.
>>
How many reviews/new cards do you do a day in a deck? I set it to 15 new, 150 reviews on my main deck (sentence mining and general notes), and 7/70 on my auxiliary decks (top verbs and nouns)

I'll tweak it to be more or less depending on how busy my week is
>>
>>218620610
It's fine as long as you're doing something else to pick up grammar and new words
>>
>>218622796
usually 60-70 new cards + 600ish reviews per day
>>
>>218620610
yeah you need to be able to follow input in order to progress. I learned this the hard way trying to do ajatt with spam incomprehensible input hoping my brain would eventually figure it out and wasting a huge amount of time

do whatever you need to make the input comprehensible. it doesn't necessarily have to be graded or learner material. can be word lookup/glossing, narrow watching (consuming the same genre of material .like watching a bunch of videos of the same game in TL or reading on the same subject), going over the same content over and over while looking up words until it makes sense, etc

you need rapid comprehension (being able to follow something at a regular speed) in order to progress
>>
File: 1764614956402391.png (1.05 MB, 722x1018)
1.05 MB
1.05 MB PNG
>>218587521
red monkey
>>
I am RAPED by BASQUE even though it's supposedly my ORIGINS
>>
>>218621423
Coptic is kind of appealing to learn for west-adjacent historical autism. Not as much as Latin and Ancient Greek though
>>
I wish the Spanish had come up with anime girls instead of the Japanese so I wouldn't have to learn this stupid language and it's moon runes.
>>
>>218624358
Syriac is also quite interesting and I think it has roughly as significant of a corpus as Coptic. I've heard it's very easy to learn compared to historical languages like Ancient Greek or Hebrew. Considering it's Semitic, I wouldn't have guessed that

>>218624177
Is the Basque situation in France as dire as I hear it is? Sounds like only really old people living in a handful of villages speak it fluently. Huge shame but France the past few hundred years has been a nightmare for languages
Can you walk into a book store in the french basque country and get some basque books, for example? Any TV or news?
>>
suprenigo
>>
>>218624177
I thought only Americans heritage larp
>>
linguam lusitanicam discite
>>
optima lingua est lusitanica post latinam
>>
Does anyone know the list of cognates of English and Russian not loanword?
>>
Has anyone here learned Afrikaans?

As an American from the south I'm sort of enamored by Afrikaner Boer culture. The music, the silly vibes, the racism, the braais, it all feels like home to me.
>>
>>218614324
Yes I agree, and this is what I have been doing manually, but it takes a long time to add cards still compared to clicking a button.This is why I would like help if anyone has a good automining setup for spanish
>>
just reached that phase between B2 and C1 where you think you are good and start to get an ego about yourself, and then are completely humbled by how far you truly are from native speakers
>>
>>218613686
Latin and ancient Greek is White. Those are just the six hundred they bothered to put on that page. You literally couldn't say the word "possibility" in Chinese before the 20th century.
>>
>>218629728
You could just say 可能 which can also be a noun as well as an adjective
可能性 just makes it clearly a noun
Also the phrase XX之性 was also used before Japanese influence got people to drop the 之 in colloquial Chinese
Also I don't get the double standard where 600ish calques makes Chinese not "intellectually independent" whereas Japanese and Korean deriving their entire languages from Chinese doesn't get a peep
>>
File: 1768042101452.jpg (343 KB, 1536x1536)
343 KB
343 KB JPG
what are some good spanish youtube channels i can watch at .75 speed

i dont want any language learning shit
>>
>>218630220
Just search up what you'd normally watch in English, but in Spanish
>>
>>218630321
that would be hard because i like to watch technical videos
>>
>>218630220
Check the YouTube channels sheet, there's a ton categorized by level, topic and region.
http://refold.link/spanish
>>
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DTvExsZkXvD/

Rate this Korean's English
>>
it's crazy how you can write something down or repeat it a million times but only through input does it actually become ingrained in your mind without having to take time thinking about it
inputGODS, I kneel
>>
>>218625537
There are schools, libraries, news and many other things in basque, it's not some kind of amazonian language on the verge of extinction
Stilll only like 10% of the french basque country can speak it
>>
>>218620957
reduce the amount of cards you are learning so the reviews come down. I personally can't spend more than 10 minutes on anki before I lose my mind, so I try to keep it below that.
>>
File: routledgeFrequencyDic.png (21 KB, 1241x110)
21 KB
21 KB PNG
>>218628500
You're using some gay refold template so I would probably stop using that for a start and you should stop expecting much from Yomitan for non-Japanese languages because generally no one cares about them. If you want minimal effort Routledge frequency dictionaries are already glossed for you.
>>
Tha mo ròs gàidhealach a’ bruidhinn. Tha mi ag èisteachd.
>>
Mi faras matenmanĝon
>>
>>218627781
Vere? Lingua Lusitanica pulchra est, sed estne optima lingua post linguam Latinam? Linguam Hispanicam optimam esse puto.
>>
>>
Downloaded the Language Reactor addon for better playback controls on jewtube. Should be cool.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSDS3AEKti4

What is this English accent called
>>
>>218638471
hungarian speaking english
>>
>>218638471
Nonnative
>>
>>218635471
does scottish have the same problem as Irish where most of the materials for it are made by non-native larpers who suck at the language?
>>
>>218639009
Scottish ≠ Scots Gaelic
>>
>>218639009
Based on what I know about Scotland, probably. But I can’t say for sure because I’m still a beginner.
>>
Bump
I've actually never looked into newspaper comics in any of my TLs. I wonder if any of them are actually funny. I actually don't even know if newspaper comics are just an anglosphere thing
>>
i dont know why but i am very amused by examples of eternal foreigners who spend decades living in a foreign country and never being able to learn the language of the host country
>>
Ĉu ekzistas kanaloj Esperantaj sur JuTubo?
>>
>>218640313
Very common here. I've even encountered some who don't know English either.
>>
>>218640313
I once met a woman who has been here for of 30 years, owns a home, and runs a business, but she barely speaks English and she needed her daughter to translate.
>>
File: 1768978201585013.png (556 KB, 920x477)
556 KB
556 KB PNG
>Petting gemacht
>>
File: file.png (2.34 MB, 1080x1478)
2.34 MB
2.34 MB PNG
>>218640157
Chinese has a tradition of small comic strip books (连环画书) which were published in a5 horizontal strips from the 30s to the late 00s, and were famously published en masse during the cultural revolution as propaganda. I remember the first time I went to China I read one from the cultural revolution about a street sweeper who got an audience with Mao

Modern Chinese newspapers don't seem to have any cartoons in them
>>
File: file.png (1.35 MB, 1492x1080)
1.35 MB
1.35 MB PNG
>>218643792
picrel, found the exact book
>>
>>218636780
sic enim quomodo dico, amice. hispanica quidem pulchra est, sed post lusitanicam hahae
>>
think i made it to b2 input and b1 output in french
feels good but also kinda shitty
>>
bump
>>
File: cake,_bulgaria.jpg (86 KB, 1080x1080)
86 KB
86 KB JPG
>>
>>218647537
Haha. Based.
>>
>>218637024
>>
File: Screenshot.png (39 KB, 1407x189)
39 KB
39 KB PNG
this shit never happened
>>
>>218615807
obviously for IRL translation you need a person, but for text/document translation almost any use case can be solved sooner or later
>>
>>218639009
stop using materials and start inpooting
>>
Ich möchte jetzt auf Sprachelernen zurückkomen, aber meine Prüfungen sind zu anstrengend. Sprachelernen ist ein schweres Vergnügen.
>>
bump
>>
I am studying grammar.
>>
>>218650656
Lang?
>>
>>218650995
Spanish
>>
File: 1754543150617618.jpg (5 KB, 407x70)
5 KB
5 KB JPG
do the werk
>>
>>218635256
Well thanks but i dont really want a frequency dictionary i want a good setup for Spanish mining
>>
where is Quebecky? is she safe? is she alright?
>>
>>218651625
she's safe and alright (with me)
>>
>>218633454
Made some minor mistakes, but overall good.
>>
I wish anki counted filtered decks with rescheduling turned off towards total reps.
>>
When i cant watch or listen whats something quick to get some spanish reading in on my phone? Thanks
>>
bedbump
>>
I spent a year tryng to learn a language. I jused used Anki lol
maybe some people can learn from my failure

guess what? one year of daily Anki for one hour a day. I couldn't speak at all, or understand spoken natural language

so people started making fun of me. I got discouraged and gave up for two years. My vocabulary was very good though lol

Now I started learning again. This time with Assimil and FSI drills. Now I'm finally making real progress. Don't ever rely on Anki by itself. It's a supplement
>>
Is clozemaster any good? I remember trying it for Tagalog and the sentences it had sounded incorrect or at least awkward. Maybe it's better for Portuguese?
>>
>>218648222
Er muss ein Dicker gewesen sein.
>>
There's like a thousand Spanish grammar books. Anyone know any that are really good?
>>
>die Halbwaise
>half orphan, i.e. kid who lost one parent, rather than both

Kind of a cool word. Does your lang have a specific word for this? I guess half orphan is the english term although I've never heard it.
>>
>>218656178
Spanish for Reading by Karl Sandberg
>>
>>218653968
>1 hour a day
365 hours is not a lot for language learning
>>
>>218656966
Yeah it's the truth
God I wish I could stop being a pathetic dilettante
>>
>>218648467
those are usually made by the aforementioned group too.
>>
Do English and Japanese really culture mog every other language? Like learning Spanish sounds nice but I don't want to watch 500 hours of soap operas, maybe the literature is good but it's inaccessible for beginners
>>
>>218647783
the gooberment can't sustain a whole culture. (they can't even manage tangible things like an economy or roads.)
churning out a bunch of slop is no good, that's artificial, it isn't of the people so why would anyone care? let alone enough to go on some "I need to embrace my heritage" bend.
there's been efforts to resuscitate cultures like that, but its only ever been successful if there's a lot of interested people who will personally adopt it.
look at hebrew - dead language - but the jews all got together and started speaking it again, because they cared. you couldn't manufacture that sort of devotion.

anyways, I don't know anything about the maldives or its language(s) - pretty sure its an island, couldn't tell you where though. good luck buddy.
>>
>>218656874
When someone is "half orphan" in Italian we specify which part is missing, it's usually «orfano di padre» and the opposite is «orfano di madre».
I guess a literal translation of "Halbwaise" would be «semiorfano».
>>
>>218658994
To expand «orfano» in Italian is someone who is "missing" the parental figure so «orfano di» is someone who "lacks s.o". This is why figuratively someone could be «orfano di speranza» as an extreme, compassionate statement of someone who is left without hope.
>>
>>218656874
Chinese has a word for a son who has lost his father 孤子 but no word for half orphan
>>218658017
every language has dubbed peppa
>>
>>218659353
>dubbed peppa
My favorite. Oink oink!
>>
>>218658017
I'd include France as a distant third due to their literature and movies too.
>>
>>218658994
>>218659353
interesting
>>
Tha mi a’ ionnsachadh Gàidhlig an-diugh.
>>
>>218658017
Chinese has actual content but yeah that’s literally it
>>
>>218654441
yeah it's good as a bit of daily practice, with the free 30 sentences. kind of lame that they added a limit though. the sentences are pulled from tatoeba, so the quality depends on that. if you see a mistranslation or a broken sentence, you can 'ignore' the sentence to never see it again
>>
>>218658017
does japan really have that much culture? there's anime (99% of which sucks), film (among the greatest), and some literature (poetry, mishima, buddhist/philosophy stuff. hardly comparable to the western canon.)
in terms of throwaway daytime tv shows, gameshows and stuff, I think every language has those.
the germans and russians easily mog the nips in terms of any serious culture.
>>
>>218637024
I can see why the native speakers of a language would feel bad if their language died, but does linguistic diversity serve a purpose? the natives of the Americas never unified under a single language in what is now their respective countries, whereas in early modern Europe one language dominated large swaths of land. The natives of the Americas had dozens if not hundreds of languages and i feel like this represented a significant bottleneck to modernize, as a result they were eventually conquered by English, Portuguese and Spanish colonists.

If humanity had a few languages instead of thousands, that would increase the potential for collaboration accelerate progress.

Pic unrelated
>>
>>218656178
I don't know if this one is the best but I am planning to use this one. It's simple and completely in Spanish.
>>
File: 1768855325314631.jpg (31 KB, 375x375)
31 KB
31 KB JPG
>>218577804
ἐς εὐνὴν ἔρχομαι κεκμηκὼς ἐών
ἆρ' ἔδῃ 'κεῖνο;
γάλακτός τι κομίζοις κεν οἴκαδε νοστέων;

ὁ τοὐμὸν δίφρον ὤρθωσεν ἔσχατος οὐκέτ' ἐκεῖ μισθαρνέει
τρὶς ἔβωσά μιν ἀλλὰ τὸν νόον οὐ προσέσχεν
εἴθ ὤφελλες πρότερόν μοι εἶπαι, ἐπίκουρός κ' ἦν
συγγνώμην, οὐκ ἤϊσα· αὖθις βραδέως εἴποις κεν;

οἱ μὲν γέροντες οὐ νόον κάτ' ὀξέες τῶν νέων· ἔνδηλόν δὲ ἡμέας ἐκείνων ἤδη ἁμαρτάνειν ὦν ἁμαρτήσεσθαι τάχ' ἐκείνους καὶ συνφορὰς πάσχειν ἅς πείσεσθαί σφέας ἤν μὴ τῶν ἀξιομνημονεύτων φροντίδ' ἔχωσιν
>>
>>218660183
Japan was an island that isolated itself for hundreds of years and Europeans collaborated more with each other so yes this is true, but you can read their translated works anyway, and it is better to know the English terminology in case you want to discuss them in /int/ernational circles.

so it depends on which content you think loses the most nuance when translated, but i also like the writing system.

>in terms of throwaway daytime tv shows, gameshows and stuff, I think every language has those.

I dont think any country comes close to Japan and America in terms of the production of pop culture that resonates with a global audience.

You are also talking about dead authors and books that were written hundreds of years ago, not about an ongoing tradition with the same relevance that you cannot access through translations, so i think it is more productive to talk about languages in terms of ecosystems of speakers online or in presence that you cannot access without learning the language (video essayists, online forums).;

I guess that Japan has a mystique to it due to the relatively low rates of English proficiency and beyond pop culture you can also be interested in some aspects of their culture like their worldview or in the Japanese language as a thing in itself.
>>
>>218645815
What makes you think you are B2/B1? I am asking so that I can calibrate myself, since I believe to have reached the same level.
I mostly understand the France Culture podcasts, can understand most of things like Le Figaro but still struggle (60-80% comprehension) with more interesting native YT content.
>>
>>218660183
Japan having great culture is a 4chanism. To most people it's not particularly special.
It probably loses a lot more when translated to English than say Spanish to English, but the main attraction of Japanese media is not in its diction or wording.

>>218660785
>global audience
no, English media is the only thing that can really command a global audience.
90% of Japanese content stays in the domestic market only while almost 100% of English language content is watched abroad too

also
>they brought back the stars captcha
urgh
>>
File: post this mymy.png (60 KB, 219x230)
60 KB
60 KB PNG
>>218660364
>does linguistic diversity serve a purpose?
Culture on its face serves no purpose nor architecture nor anything else involving beauty or art. You might as well turn the world into the Borg if you're just going to worship at the alter of productive forces and technocapital.
>>
>>218660364
>the natives of the Americas never unified under a single language in what is now their respective countries
except when the majority of north american tribes were using hand talk for international trade and communication, also ignoring the many empires that existed and whose languages were used as lingua francas regionally
>>
>>218661193
In reality German is one of the coolest languages in terms of word formation word order and its literary canon, as well as the culture of German speaking countries. I just needed an cope to save time.

I am not denying that German words are really cool, I just think that no recruiter would think that it is a hard language and knowledgeable recruiters would also think that all Germans, Austrians and Swiss people already speak flawless English.

I also wanted to distance myself from people who only learn German and French because they like learning easy western European languages and not because they actually appreciate those cultures.
>>
i am besaddened by the fact that germans are good at writing grammar references for classical tibetan because it means that i need to spend the 4 or so months needed to learn enough german grammar to be able to read any of them
>>
File: Martin-Luther.jpg (504 KB, 1480x833)
504 KB
504 KB JPG
I am just a humanities autist who wishes he was a stem autist like demis hassabis or bill gates
>>
>>218661100
for input i compared what i was consuming to recommend levels
for writing i have been asking multiple ais to grade my writing
speaking is harder i have tried to estimate it based on the cefr descriptions and tried to think if i could actually do what it said
>>
>>218663758
Do you have any non-pozzed content you can recommend? I swear to God these people only talk about «le bilan carbon».
>>
>>218660364
Linguistic diversity serves absolutely no purpose; in fact it holds back the development of centralised states which is why central governments have (and will) always oppose it.
Think of how incredibly inconvenient it is for the EU to work in 23 languages, or South Africa to work with 11.
Linguistic diversity is also opposed to the modern idea of the nation-state (one people one country), how can a people possibly be united if they speak two different languages? To governments it only creates the opportunity for separatism and division.
This, naturally, is why absolutely no country on this earth supports linguistic diversity other than the ones that have been forced to by historical circumstance (usually by having no one dominant language)
>>
>>218651625
Probably in another man's arms while he whispers the pros and cons of learning Hungarian in her cute little ear. I miss her dumb questions and her nervous insecurity around tackling anything language or tech related. I wish I could see her confused and panicked expression as I explain the basics of torrenting before she realizes I'd do it for her anyway. Baby girl... if you're reading this, please come back...

>>218652833
Graded readers like Olly Richards Short stories for beginners or 101 conversations in simple Spanish.

If you have a decent screen, you can try manga and comics. I used to read Solo Leveling.
https://zonatmo.com/library/manhwa/217/solo-leveling?orderDir=ASC

>>218653968
Your second mistake was quitting for two years. If you just started reading and listening as soon as you realized Anki wasn't enough, you'd be fine because building vocab wasn't a total waste.
>>
File: fixed.jpg (1.88 MB, 2940x3064)
1.88 MB
1.88 MB JPG
i can't decide whether i want to learn turkish or farsi as my next lang

turkish has tons of resources, it represented on pretty much every major language platform and i can physically go there and speak for cheap or just speak to turks in my city

but farsi has aura and i have a persistent fantasy of going to iran when the mullahs fall like people did with the 90s soviet union/russia.
i just can't find any good resources because no english speakers learn it
>>
>>218653968
well obviously dumbass
why would you ever think just learning a list of words is the entire practice of language learning
>>
Are there any anime dubbed in swedish?
>>
>>218658017
and maybe people don't wanna watch 500 hours of animes about incest
spanish encompasses an entire continent, why would you think all they have to offer is telenovelas?
>>
>>218664351
Mostly kids shows like Pokémon, Digimon, Avatar The Last Airbender... and they're pretty hard to find.
>>
>>218664384
>and maybe people don't wanna watch 500 hours of animes about incest
but they should
>spanish encompasses an entire continent, why would you think all they have to offer is telenovelas?
because they are poor
>>
>>218664351
Most if the big old ones
Sailor Moon is was well dubbed, though sounds a bit old
>>
>>218664494
>Avatar The Last Airbender
It was dubbed in norwegian too. I would watch the shit out of that if I could find it...
>>
>>218664581
>though sounds a bit old
Old quality or they speak old swedish? Or they sound elderly?
>>
>>218664384
So let's put it this way. According to another anon maybe like 10% of Japanese media gets outside of Japan. For Spanish that has to be like 1%. I just simply don't see that many people discuss Spanish TV shows or movies compared to their Japanese equivalents
>>
>>218664351
I took a look at swedish netflix and they have dubbed pokemon indigo league. Pretty much any major kids show will have a dub, though finding torrents or any similar resource for them is probably next to impossible
>>
>>218664636
Their accents / way of speaking sounds a bit dated to the modern ear in the way that it sounds like the way my grand parents would speak but the language used is the same as today https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCAWlCxy3OU

Pretty sure some Ghibli movies also exist dubbed
>>
learning german for my favourite german vtubers (shyaren and nyara) :3
>>
>>218664141
What about feeling like you are and actually being better than people who live in monolingual countries

Although i dont think most French speaking belgians speak Dutch or even study it in school, but they should, in the same way Canadian schools make their students learn French.
>>
>>218665087
I was partially wrong
>>
>>218664002
i like science fiction so i have been listening to c'est plus que de la sf
in general it is pretty good but every once in while you get a guest who is gay as shit
i also listen to au cœur de l'histoire
there isn't a lot of that stuff but it is a history podcast
i used to listen to innerfrench but that dude talks about all that gay shit like carbon footprints, gay shit, etc.
>>
>>218664842
i literally never hear people discuss japanese shows unless its tranime
i've heard non-spanish speaking british normies discuss narcos, la casa de papel (money heist) and elite
>>
>>218665324
One of my greatest motivation lately was moving past innerfrench and his shit. I soldiered on through roughly 80 episodes. Sadly, for A2 learners I feel like he is by far the best in terms of speed, inflection and lexical choices.
I've recently started listening to Parlez-moi d'Histoire and I found it rather interesting, but I lean on my native language for cognates and domain specific knowledge to understand it. You might have a more difficult time.
>>
File: LuisBuñuel1929.jpg (209 KB, 960x1230)
209 KB
209 KB JPG
>>218664842
>Spanish movies

Thats because normies are not familiar with european cinema. Spain, Russia, Italy, France, Sweden, Denmark they all have noteworthy cinematic traditions but they are cultish, only hardcore movie fans know about them


Mexico has some good movies but its mostly just slop


https://www.criterion.com/shop/browse/list?sort=spine_number&country=Argentina,Cuba,Guatemala,Spain,Mexico

but you dont have to force it. If you are not interested in Spanish or Latino culture or in the Spanish language itself, just learn Japanese.
>>
>>218664842
That might be because weebs are the far more obnoxious.
>>
>>218665404
Anime however is enjoyed nearly universally and those three examples aren't. Narcos is produced by the US and it's the first time I hear about elite.
>>
>>218640313
Latinx people here are notorious for this. Ive lost count of the amount of times I've asked a brown worker at a restaurant or diner a question and they looked back with a blank stare or said some shit like "sorry no ablo Ingles". I don't know how you can decide to live somewhere without ever learning the language, thank God we're kicking them out
>>
>>218664843
>though finding torrents or any similar resource for them is probably next to impossible
Damn. Why hasn't anyone made a scandinavian tracker?
>>218664865
Very interesting
>>
>miss a single day of anki
>158 cards due
FUCK
>>
>>218666399
Gidoojibwem ina?
>>
>>218666399
The Mexican education system is exceptionally bad at teaching English, because of that many people grow up thinking that learning English is hard and they associate the language with boring classroom exercises, many times they also dont understand the extent of information they are missing out on by not speaking the language. Any tard can just cross the border illegally whereas people from other poor countries have to be flown in and they are the smartest people in their countries, the intellectual and economic elites.

The European equivalent of immigrants who dont speak your language would be nafris and subsaharan Africans, again, because they arrive in boats as refugees, they are normies in poor countries, so obviously a poor Afghan man is not going to be fluent in English, much less in German, Swedish or French.
>>
anyone know how to get spellcheck for other language on windows? I'm trying to get it so it underlines mispelled words with red like it does in english
>>
>>218666525
That's nothing lol
>>
>>218668225
post your Anki faggot
>>
>>218664264
farsi is the trve aryan choice
>>
>>218666468
>Damn. Why hasn't anyone made a scandinavian tracker?
Well most scandis would never watch anything dubbed and even fewer foreigners would be interested. If you want to watch something in swedish i recommend looking around here https://www.svtplay.se/ (its public service and a lot of shows/movies have swedish subtitles)
>>
Can we get the quirky illuminated gloabists out of this generale, please?

I'd like to discuss languages in conformity with Europe's plurilinguism. You arleady know English, so if you wanted to lead a centralized utopian future you could, and then leave us with our interest in different cultural spheres.
>>
File: klassen.jpg (340 KB, 1920x1080)
340 KB
340 KB JPG
>>218669438
>https://www.svtplay.se/
gonna dabble in swedish
>>
>>218666966
Check the spellcheck settings of your browser
>>
>>218666966
if you are using word you can change language in the review section
>>
what's the difference between "arguable" and "debatable",if any?
>>
>>218671717
Can be used interchangeably. I have also seen it as one is for facts and the other for opinions.
>>
>>218671717
arguable isn't a commonly used word
arguabLY is
>>
>>218672286
that is arguable
>>
>>218672778
Arguably, "debatable" would sound much more natural in that sentence.
>>
>>218672778
nobody would say this
they would say "that's debatable"
>>
>>218672778
This
>>218672899
Not where I'm from. 'Debatable" has incel connotations.
>>
>>218672927
and where are you from
to be fair if I heard someone saying arguable I would probably assume they were a dumb american
>>
If someone said “debatable” to me irl I’d assume they were a redditor and plant a fat kiss on their cheek. No fag.
>>
>>218672899
perchance
>>
>>218666140
>Anime however is enjoyed nearly universally
no it isn't
and money heist was the biggest non-english language of all time until squid game and still is second, plus narcos being US-produced means nothing, we are comparing content in a language, not a nations capacity for producing shows
>>
Is there anybody like Spanish Boost but in French? By that I mean, somebody that makes videos focused on learning. But is actually funny and entertaining so it's easy to pay attention instead of spacing out after a few minutes? I tried looking French Boost, but no luck so far.
>>
>>218647537
Wtf I love Bulgaria now
>>
>>218674150
https://www.youtube.com/@FrenchwithGaming-F%C3%A9lix/videos
I'm not learning French so I have no idea if he's similar to Spanish Boost but this channels has gaming content for learners.
>>
>>218665542
you could take a look at french voices podcast
slightly higher level than innerfrench
the woman interviews french speakers in a bunch of different professions
>>
File: 1686093199215074.jpg (24 KB, 558x550)
24 KB
24 KB JPG
I'm Jording out. For around ten years I've been interested in learning Russian, I kinda learned the alphabet back then and maybe two weeks of duolingo. Couple days ago I finally downloaded anki decks and started learning, in big part inspired by Livakivi. Yet I'm blackpilled about languages.
My 'native' language is Spanish, I have an accent that is 98% native, I have spoken it at home for over 20 years, I have endured the 9PM telediario for the most part of my life. Despite all this, I struggle to speak intelligently about things, in fact I find it consistently easier to express myself in English than Spanish.
I have a hard time justifying spending so much time learning a lang. I use English 90% of my day and probably wouldn't pass C2 without some extensive practice. Anyways I'm just blogposting now, I don't mean to blackpill others, it's just that when I search for this I only find whitepill posts about enjoying the journey and whatnot. Fuck that, I don't enjoy drilling grammar and anki cards, I just wan't to watch a russian vlog of some random drug rambling. I'm too pragmatic, sadly I'll probably have to stay on my lane and learn all the great new additions to C++23 instead so that I can use them in 15 years
>>
I've got to stop jerking off I always lose all my motivation to study afterwards
>>
>>218676903
I've noticed jacking off really fucks with motivation and focus a lot too. Unironically, noticing how much gooning makes studying harder has convinced me to stop more than anything.
>>
Latin, Russian, and Ancient Greek are the only worthy languages. The rest are incoherent monkey noises.
>>218676605
>tf
>My 'native' language is Spanish
Horror story.
>>
>>218598405
this is very true
>>
>>218598405
I've been learning English for over 20 years, but the expression like 'I'm working for myself' still feels awkward to me because, from a Korean perspective, it's quite an odd expression.
>>
How to say "ching chong ping pong" in Korean btw?
>>
>>218677354
had a khazak in my class too
>>
>>218677393
you should be working for the weekend instead
>>
>>218677399
We don't say this, never ever
>>
I came to obsolutely detest Americanised people, as well as English itself. I now put the most thick accent possible when speaking this "language", I also removed spelling correction so wherever I don't know how to write a word, I just write random gibberish.
English is basically a trade pidgin to adress coloured servant while you're on a vacation in a third world shithole.
>>218677401
Not a Kazakh obviously, just testing a VPN. Kazakhs all live in tents in the wilderness and drink horse semen or something, all Kazakh flags here are larping Russians or VPNs.
>>
>>218677406
I mean, It's not that there isn't the act of "working for myself" in Korea, but I mean, that considering the linguistic features. The phrase "working myself" is expressed as a single term in Korean, such as "사업 해요" (I run a business) or "자영업 해요" (I do selfemployedwork). In Korean, it's expressed in this way, and the combination of "working" and "myself" doesn't align with how it's typically articulated in Korean.
>>
Imagine be like
>oh the language of pajeets, obese new world goblins, trannies and negroids! the language with no known culture besides start wars, youtube streamers, and the neuroslop video about cat drumph! this is the language i want to conduct all my private life in
>>
>>218677449
>>218677502
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
>>
someone that has done a lot of media input answer this please

is it a waste of time to listen to media that is wel above your level? would i make more progress listening to more simple stuff? its just boring
>>
bump from toilet at work (shitting on company time, might take 100% paid sick leave for nothing and watch star trek at home after walking there (my city is walkable))



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.