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Fun fact about Europe: This people is considered subhuman in Europe, but in New World, they would be treated like gods, even in USA and Canada only because they are white
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>>218581268
Untrue, Monkeydonians are subhumans everywhere they exist.
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>>218581268
you mistook macedonians with s*rbians
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>>218581268
Europe can't tell each other apart, same way with Asians
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>>218581268

There is a reason no one likes these cunts except their pimps (Serbia) and Turks ( because they hate Greece)

Literally worst type of people there is

I'm glad their shithole is 40% Albanian.

They could have been normal people and ally with us and Bulgaria but they decided to larp to the most ridiculous extend there is

So they deserve everything that will happen to them
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>>218581268
polishers are the only wypipo you can find living in favelas here
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>>218582630

>Bulgarians larping as ancient greeks
>Based
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These are monkeydonians.
They're not gods anywhere.
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>>218582685
>Bulgarians larping as ancient greeks
Are you describing yourself?
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>>218581268
I am literally 100% Macedonian (both parents) in the new world. Thank you for making this thread.
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true, in Canada we love Fyromians
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my brother married a macedonian girl
AMA
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>>218581268
worse places have lifted themselves with the magic of investments. Le Union seems to love making it happen and they are welcome aboard!
perhaps Greece would have been more lenient about the name had it not been for their economic situation? idk
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>>218581919
I don't think most scandis know any details about them. Like wars, famines or dictators. I take that as a positive sign.
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>>218583568
>worse places have lifted themselves with the magic of investments
such as?
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>>218583679
Because they didn't exist as an ethnicity prior 1945. Before that date they were proud Bulgarians that were forcefully brainwashed by Tito

The reason Albanians hate them is because of they mistreated them a lot and there was almost a civil war in 2001. Keep in mind that Albanians are 40% of the population of their country nowadays

The reason Greece hates them is because of flat earth equivalent pseudo history they not only teach but spread everywhere, especially in Australia and US, with their propaganda machine

Bulgarians hate them because even tho they are the same people they hate Bulgarians and steal their history as well.

This is happening on a state level. According to them there is continuity to them from Alexander the great to...tsar Samuil.. Every major historian and university agrees that Alexander was greek as it is painfully obvious by any information of him we have but they have other opinion. The name Bulgarian figures ""Macedonian"" , even self proclaimed Bulgarian like Gotse Delchev who is their national hero.

It's literally intellectual charlatanism at its peak.

The funny thing is that all of this stems from anti Bulgarian rhetoric post Yugoslavia. But Bulgaria does not give a shit if they don't want to be that and no single neighbouring country wants their land or to attack them

Their language is a Bulgarian dialect with Serbian influence and they call that ""macedonian"". Meanwhile we know from the Pella curse tablet around 400 BC that the real macedonians were greek and spoke a Doric greek dialect ( ofcourse it was Doric! They claimed they came from Argos!)

Bulgarians were the first to recognize their shit hole and even helped them during the 2001 insurgency

There's more, you don't realize what these people have been doing for decades. The are a communist state in the 21st century
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>>218584087
Almost every single sentence in your post is blatantly false and then you go on calling someone out on "intellectual charlatanism".
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>>218584141

Wrong ? This is literally what the people believe lol.

I'm sure you are a diaspora or have a thing for skopjepussy because there is no way some third party would firstly deny this and secondly be so mad about it

Your little fantasies won't rewrite history you dumb moron

Keep rotting from the inside in your shit hole

Do you know most young Albanians in north Macedonia don't even know the slavic language? Hahahaha , how many years do you think your little sewer has left ?
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>>218584294
It would take you literally 5 minutes of using the internet to realize how stupid your very first sentence is. Seek psychiatric help.
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>>218583568
>worse places have lifted themselves with the magic of investments
ie sent the youth to germany and filled their country with indians,
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>>218584087
>>218584294
Why did you learn so much about the slavs? Do you care a lot about this topic? Aren't they just ragebaiting with their larping as literally direct descendants of Alexander? I think most Macedonians know they are mixed, as almost everyone in the region is.
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>>218584335

Sure, Bulgarian.
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>>218584087
>Every major historian and university agrees that Alexander was greek
Alexander was Macedonian and who back in the day used to get shit on by the Greeks for being barbaric and being ruled by kings.
Apart from that the current Macedonians are a mix of slavs that have no connection to the ancient macedonians as the ancient Macedonians got raped into non existence and slavicized when the byzantines were getting their shit pushed in by the slavs with their pecheneg overlords, modern day Macedonia is a yugoslavian creation when oligarchs were chopping the well built public sector for privatization and needed a fake state to do it properly.
Modern day greeks demographically are like 30-40 percent actual hellenes with a 30 percent albanian and the rest are just christianized turks.
>inb4 nooo
The mass resettlement saw loads of ethnic greeks who had converted to islam sent to turkey and loads of ethnic turks who had converted to orthodoxy sent to greece, and as for the albanian thing its from the 1700s where athens and its surroundings were majority albanian due to mass albanian migration from the highlands according to the Ottoman defters, you can thank Ali Pasha of Ionnina that these albanians assimilated into the greek identity due to him fighting them due to their religion.

None of this matters though as in 40 years all these countries will be full of africans and indians due to their birth rates being low and their high immigration rates.
The balkans will just turn from warring brown people to warring black people lmaoo.
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>>218581712
Wrong
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>>218581268
Ngl dpmne bots are ugliest people in the world

>>218582630
>bordering three of the most parasitic, obnoxious, dishonest subhumans on the planet that need to be genocided ASAP.
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>>218584482

Because it's not just a belief, they push that shit everywhere. It's an anti Bulgarian rhetoric and a defense mechanism to have land claims in a region such as the Balkans where history matters a ton.

I'm sure many of them dont believe that bs but with the way they behave they have destroyed their relationship with us and Bulgaria

It's amazing because our relationship with Bulgaria was always terrible and now it's good. They could have been part of this under any way they wanted if they stopped the larping. No one cares if they were Bulgarian in the past or not , no one wants to attack them.

Now they serve their purpose as a Russian drone in the area. They quite literally offer nothing and cause trouble

About 250k of the so called proud ""Macedonians""" have Bulgarian passports where you have to prove your grandad was a Bulgarian iirc

No one hated them or wanted them to fail. They did it to themselves
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>the turkoarab is angry
Quiet dog
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>>218584633
To be honest I don't blame them for trying to get away from bulgarian influence, as far as state corruption goes they are extreme even by third world standards.
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>>218584560
>Alexander was Macedonian and who back in the day used to get shit on by the Greeks for being barbaric and being ruled by kings.

You are so fucking annoying when you talk scout things you don't know

Macedonians participated in the Olympics since 500bc (150+ years before Alexander the great)

They spoke greek , had greek religion, every writing there is in greek , had greek culture etc

Alexander himself says he is greek in every writing we have

His letter to Darius says
>You (Persians) invaded Macedonia and the rest of Hellas (Greece)

>The loot he sent to Athens post Issus they said “Alexander, son of Philip, and the Greeks (except the Lacedaemonians) from the barbarians who dwell in Asia.”

I have had this conversation with so many morons like you

Read a book . You don't know better than every major historian that has speciality in ancient Greece. You learn your history from tik tok, not original sources
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>>218584776
I am not saying he wasn't greek or greek adjacent, I am just telling you his people the macedonians were considered hillbilly barbarians by the greeks.
And no I don't learn my history from tiktok or whatever, I translate ottoman documents with AI as I like to read about the era, they have so many writings from that era in their public domain, all you need to do is to know their language to get the documents but reading the documents is tricky as they use the old arabic script and the words they use are a bit outdated so the AI is finnicky with a lot of it.
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>>218584560
>>218584776

Also
>Demosthenes, a political rival of Philip, called Philip a barbarian therefore the Macedonians were not greek

You understand that Greeks calling each other barbarian was a slur ? And Demosthenes did it, there was a huge wave in Athens to unite Greece under Philip

So not only it's Demosthenes, a political rival and a rhetor, he was also an Athenian, literally the most snob people of ancient Greece
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>>218584087
βαξεδ
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I'm gonna leave this itt and go

cya
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>>218584860

I answered you there

They weren't considered barbarians on a broad level across the rest of Greece.

Demosthenes did call Philip a barbarian as a slur and I already explained that this happened because their relationship were at tension between Athens and Macedonia

What I do agree on is that Macedonia (especially prior Archelaos) was a bit hillbilly as you said

And the truth is prior to Philip they weren't important.

So imagine being an Athenian rhetor and politician and your , till at that point, hillbilly cousin comes and says we are all gonna unite under my rule ( Isocrates personally asked Phillip to do that under the idea no more brother wars, Panhellenism)

Do you know get Demosthenes reaction?

And it was his reaction. Go look how many Athenians had no issue with Philip.
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I stand with Greece against the Slavic dogs
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>>218584776
>Macedonians participated in the Olympics since 500bc
No, a Macedonian king participated after being told that he can't participate because he is Macedonian and not Greek, and then only after he defended a claim before the judges that his family has Greek ancestry was he allowed to participate. If Macedonians were seen as Greek, none of that would have happened and he'd be able to participate on the grounds of being Macedonian.

>>218585067
>it was just a slur
Cope.
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>>218585067
i agree with everything, death to the slavs
but dude you have to stop with the reddit spacing
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>>218586853

First of all , you can only stick to a certain claim of mine because you know the rest are irrefutable

Second of all, it's the cope >actually only the royalty was greek the people were something different. Meanwhile any information we have says otherwise

Let's clear the fact that your disgusting way of misrepresenting the truth shows here.

Alexander the first ( Great great grandfather of Alexander the great ) proved that as a Macedonian he was greek

While ignoring any other thing I mentioned you say > well the people were something different!

The "different" people you mention
>Had greek names
>Spoke greek (doric greek dialect as proven by the Pella curse tablet, which shows their Doric origins)
>Had greek religion
>Had greek culture

But the thing is all of the above are the icing on the cake. As I mentioned we know what Alexander said on the loot he sent to Athens
As mentioned in Arrian

>“Alexander, son of Philip, and the Greeks—except the Lacedaemonians—from the barbarians who dwell in Asia.”

The majority of his army were Macedonians. He wouldn't have said "and the Greeks" when 3/4th of his army weren't Greeks you dumb moron

About the slur thing , you are just a dumb moron. Demosthenes himself had been called a barbarian

Meanwhile we have all the evidence of Isocrates Panhellenism and his influence on Phillip. The famous league of Corinth was originally called the Hellenic league (το κοινό των Ελλήνων)

Keep reading history from your own cherrypicked sources, Goran.

You know better than all the experts.

You have no idea how pathetic you look to any educated person

>>218586996
I want it to look well bro
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>>218581919
Macedonians are in a brutal delusion, but they are known as good people. Objectively, Albanians are, along with Bosnian Muslims, at the bottom of the European food chain. Albanians have an oriental tribal mindset and blood revenge, they deal with crime. It's a plus for them that they hate Serbs, but even Serbs are more civilized than them (Croatian influence). Bosnian Muslims are the bottom of the bottom in all aspects. Culture, 0. Sports, 0 Olympic medals. They are not able to govern themselves, everything they have left from Yugoslavia (read: Croatian and Slovenian, formerly Austro-Hungarian money, factories, infrastructure) is simply falling apart, and together with the Kosovar Albanians, they massively responded to the call of ISIL. Macedonians are a completely different, and much better, category of people.
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>>218581268
Is that the Imperial Japanese flag?
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>>218587634
Albanians are far from the bottom which is an undisputed hohol spot ask any truck driver they will tell you albanians are super genius and whole heartedly kind people compared to hyhyls.
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>>218587634
>Macedonians are in a brutal delusion, but they are known as good people

I agree. I have said it's a tragedy they are not friends with us and Bulgarians. No one wants to hurt them or take their lands. We would be their best allies together
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>>218587683
yeah but it got pissed on
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>>218581268
people in the new world don't even know half the countries in europe exist, let alone have any opinion
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>>218587754
Hello dimitri. :D
I can't believe that Ukrainians are worse than Albanians even though Ukrainians have also shown extreme stupidity and inability to manage their own country.
>>218587763
You're right.



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