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Humilliation ritual
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Russia sisters
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>>218672199
why can't the whole thing be privatized so we can be done with it
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https://youtu.be/vuHWU6oNMv0
So literally nothing?
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>>218672199
Meanwhile the heckin based EU just voted for an anti racism action, especially against Muslims
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>>218672296
>USA now has sovereignty over their territories, Danes cannot visit them, nor kick them off it
>mineral rights to the land they occupy, wasn't there in previous framework
>can now install missiles and silos on their territories, wasn't there before

Why can't you just admit you've lost?
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>>218672318 at least you don't have ice blowing commie brains into spagetthi o algo
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>USA complains that it's spending too much money on defending Europe and is getting nothing out of the alliance
>USA also wants to place trillion dollar future tech missile defence systems in allied countries
Really activates the ol' almonds.
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>>218672296
Wtf? It's the first time I see such error.
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>>218672451
4chan is next
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>>218672445
The minerals pays more than enough for those bases.
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>>218672199
NATO threw Denmark and Greenland under the bus
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>>218672571
What minerals?
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>>218672571
>minerals
>he doesn't know
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>>218672199
Looks like they got parts of Greenland the same way they already own parts of europe through McDonald's and embassies
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>>218672296
Insane fucking cope
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Europe
Always
Chickens
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>>218674363
Doesn't matter, USA won psychological war and strengthen their claim, everyone knows now that they will take Greenland someday, you backed down like a pathetic beach which is you are.
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>>218672445
Look at a globe.
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>>218674449
2 more weeks bro trvst
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>>218674363
The deal would give the US sovereignty over territory instead of just being leased out. We don't actually own the land in the European countries we have bases in.
it isn't owning all of Greenland but it means that the USA would have permanent territory that can only be lost through war.
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>>218674515
Neither Denmark nor Greenland agreed to such a deal
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>>218674537
How many divisions do Denmark and Greenland have?
>muh rule of law
International Rule of Law is enforced by the US Navy. You chose to give up that power to the US, now eat shit and die.
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>>218674552
If I was Denmark I would resist the US on principle, such resistance would also destroy the US' alliances such as NATO.
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>>218672199
So essentially the exact same arrangement we ALREADY had with Denmark, plus the Trump's mythical Star Wars initiative. All at the price of making America look like it's led by Drunk Randy Quaid.

This is exactly NAFTA again; tear up agreement, make threats sign exact same agreement, name it something Trump and declare WINNING BIGLY.
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>>218674619
Are you retarded?
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>>218674585
>If I was Denmark I would resist the US on principle
With what?
>such resistance would also destroy the US' alliances such as NATO
This benefits the US and Russia while leaves Europe almost completely defenseless. I dare you to leave NATO. Do it faggot.
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>>218672760
>>218672721
Greenland has rare earth minerals (Neodymium, Dysprosium, Praseodymium, Cerium, Lanthanum, and Yttrium) used for tech
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>>218674515
>The deal would give the US sovereignty over territory
All occupied American military bases are sovereign American territory, just like our Carriers and all their immediate water/airspace are sovereign territory.
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>>218674585
They've already made the stance they will not accept any accession of land. This article is mostly fake news.
All trump has is "the concept of a framework of a deal"
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>>218672445
>and is getting nothing out of the alliance
Is kind of the key phrase here. There were talks about Ukraine giving us mineral rights that fell through if you recall.

The deal has always been
>gib oil
>get guns
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>>218674649
I'm sorry, could you pull Trump's dick out of your mouth and repeat that?
We already had the ability to build basically whatever infrastructure/bases on this almost entirely unpopulated ice-rock before Trump did his tirade at Davos. And a mineral exploitation agreement, which we have not pursued because A. we have all of Alaska we barely exploit and B. unlike Alaska Greenland has not deepwater industrial ports or decent spots for them. Is Bezos going to Amazon drone all of that shit once we dig down to it?
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>>218674655
>All occupied American military bases are sovereign American territory,
Which ends outside of the base with thr exception of land / sea space. They are giving us actual territory this time

Greenland is officially Trumplandia , cope and seethe
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>>218674705
We don't even need oil. The world is glutted with oil. The oil money is going into Trump accounts.
We arrested Maduro for being mean to Trump, released Hernandez (who literally was convicted for the crimes Maduro is accused of) because he sucked up to Donald. And we left Maduro's right-hand and cabinet running Venezuela, paying oil-bribes to Donald.
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>>218674708
>We already had the ability to build basically whatever
No. Dude its still their territory we couldn't just build something and not go through Danish bureaucracy thats not how thay works lmao . A big reason this happened was due to the Danes promising in invest a ton of money into military infrastructure into Greenland instead of us making more bases - then they barely invested any of that money they promised.
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>>218674753
>we dont even need oil
>trump trump trump
This poster is a soul devoid urbanite bug man. We are an EMPIRE with a sphere of influence yes actually we do need that oil

Had you been born in Rome you would've been some gladiators Greek twink sex slave
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>>218674730
>They are giving us actual territory this time
It's a hellish, subzero barren wasteland. Really it's fitting for Trumplandia for that reason, as to quote:
>"In Dante Alighieri's Inferno, the Ninth Circle of Hell is frozen, a vast icy lake called Cocytus, where the deepest sinners, traitors, are imprisoned in ice for eternity, with Satan himself trapped at the very center. This lowest level, furthest from God's warmth, punishes betrayal against family, country, guests, and leaders with eternal cold, creating a stark opposite to fiery punishments in higher circles."
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>>218674789
>>218674787
The reason they want the land is extractable rare-earth minerals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hvcvuUXWRQ
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>>218674753
Finding out that Trump made over six trillion dollars from stealing Venezuela's oil blew my mind. Just went straight into his swiss bank account.
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>>218674789
>ugh there's like not even any beaches
>even quoting Dante
You could not be more of a flaming homosexual. You could post a video of you sucking a man's dick and that would he more straight than what you are posting
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>>218674787
It's hilarious that Trump ran for years against the wasteful bases we had in Europe that existed to give the mean-eye to Russia on the American dime.
And now he's "won" the right to build American overseas bases on a barren rock specifically to give the stink-eye to the gommunists.

Doing the opposite of what he promised or nothing at all: what the MIGAtard call's WINNING BIGLY.
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>>218674815
Rare earth minerals, securing more of a military presence in the growing Artic sea trade, and Trump's ego. In that order
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>>218674817
It went to the Wine Arabs that bribed him with a Jumbo Jet, then from there to a Trump controlled account. Half a billon, because no one is clamoring to pay top dollar for shitty Venezuelan heavy crude.
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>>218674834
>ran for years against the wasteful bases we had in Europe
Because he felt like the euros werent giving us anything in return. Now they are. Shouldn't you be happy?
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>>218674651
It's also a frigid wasteland
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>>218674852
They are giving us land to build more bases, hilariously. We already had a mineral exploitation framework in place.
This is typical Trump; spot a problem that is only a problem because he doesn't understand the situation or created the problem....then solve it by returning the Status Quo and declare victory. At no point in our entire history has Greenland refused cooperation with America or denied it property to build naval shit onto. Which we have in fact done. They are less fond of the Gommunists than diaper Don is.
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>>218672199
Europe needs to understand that the US is the biggest threat to Europe. It's not just Trump, the entire ruling class of the USA (mostly Jews) are like this.
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>>218674915
You have no concept of who the Ruling Class in America is, but they DO employ a lot of Jews. Exactly like Trump.
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>>218674899
But enough about your mom's pussy
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>>218674905
>We already had a mineral exploitation framework in place.
Which is apparently being expanded? You do realize that since Greenland is in our hemisphere its also for *our* defense right?
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>it's a worthless wasteland that nobody wants
>but we're willing to destroy NATO in order to defend it, despite the fact we're reliant on the US for defense
Which is it?
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>>218674930
The Jews and Israel rule the USA. The amerigoys are useful idiots.
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>>218674905
basically yes, except the mineral rights. however I doubt it would hard to set-up some mining company license up there

which is why it's so insane that he's doing what he's doing. he must genuinely be going senile
ooooor, he knows he's in the epstein files and that his time is limited or some shit idk senpai
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>>218674940
>Which is apparently being expanded?
It could be DOUBLED, we have never taken advantage of it because Greenland is only slightly less problematic to exploit than The Moon. It has zero suitable ports. The weather is worse than our worst shitty wastelands, which we already struggle to exploit, and underexploit, and we have PORTS and RAILROADS to those. Then Danes might as well have given Don mineral rights to the Earth's core.

Our only long interest in Greenland has been the thawing arctic passage for trade, and Greenland has always been "eh whatever".

Don got permission for nothing we either didn't already had, or could have gotten by casually asking politely. He just needed an ego massage and a distraction from those Files we haven't forgotten.
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>>218674987
The guy is a crook. He's making a lot of money being president and he's a narcissist who likes attacking people. The USA is a monster of a country ruled over by Israel and full of narcissist amerigoys just like drumfpt.
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>>218674999
>only long interest in Greenland has been the thawing arctic passage for trade, and Greenland has always
>thawing
You might want to think what the thawing means for Greenland more broadly.
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>>218674999
>Don got permission for nothing
He got permission for nothing at all, henegotiated with NATO's secretsry Mark Rutte, not Greenland or Denmark.
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>>218674999
Wasn't this all extrapolated from a chat between Trump and the Dutch PM? The Dutchies don't have much of say, do they?
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>>218675016
>tf
>tp
You realize that besides us you guys are Israel's biggest golem right? Even your antifa are pro Israel
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>>218674957
You tell em, Schizo Shultz.
>>218674987
You need a way to get whatever you extract out of Greenland, we have a naval base on the single shitty geographical location that sorta supports a port. But not a deepwater port for ore or anything like it.
If it was of any use for that, enterprising Capitalists would have been cozying up to Greenlanders and the Danes decades and decades ago, as they have done with the Canadians and their wilderness.
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>>218672199
I don't think Greenland or Denmark have actually agreed on anything yet.
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>>218672318
Man, I have zero respect for European "leaders". Trump is a knuckle-dragger of course but at least he isn't a gigantic pussy.
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>>218675044
Why does supporting the only liberal democracy in the middle east make you a golem or whatever that means
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>>218672714
KWAB. Do modern nords really?
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>>218675031
>>218675036
America has vast tracts of thawed out wasteland full of minerals. Enormous swathes of it. Connected to America by rail and airports and ports. Vastly underutilized. Greenland thawing means nothing but snowstorms in Georgia.
We'll expand our naval outpost and maybe build some more airstrip, and otherwise ignore the rest of Greenland. It's not even good for tourism as the glaciers poop out. It's gigantic nasty rock. Check the internet, we DO have lots of footage of it.

After getting out-toughed by China, Mexico, Russia, Canada and the like, Don needs small banana Republics and islands to act like an Autocratic tough-guy at.
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>>218675077
Can a democracy be liberal if it's committing genocide?
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>>218675096
Civilians die during war, it's unfortunate but unavoidable
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>>218675054
Getting/accomplishing anything is largely irrelevant to WINNING BIGLY.
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>>218675119
Israel isn't bothering to avoid it at all, its attacking civilians lining up to get food
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>>218672199
>US agrees to respect Danish territorial claims to Greenland
>US is allowed to operate a strategic military presence in northwestern Greenland
>Denmark agrees to US sovereignty over the formerly-Danish Caribbean islands such as St Croix.
>Iceland, Greenland, and Denmark agree to assist the US if America is attacked
>US citizens are allowed visa-free access to Greenland and Svalbard.
>Greenland agrees to host an airport in Narsarsuaq, built by the US Department of War
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>>218675091
I'll give you the full rundown of events
>Trump says he wants greenland
>Both Denmark and greenland say no
>Trump threatens military invasion
>Denmark, UK, France, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden, Norway and Finland send up troops (like 2 dog sleds and 60 guys)
>Trump threatens tariffs of 15% starting in february on above countries, raised to 30% if he does not get greenland by june
>EU drops US trade agreement
>EU threatens trade bazooka
>Denmark and sweden start dumping US bonds
>Trump goes back on his promises
>Trump stops tariffs
>He gets "a concept of a deal"
>declares victory
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>>218675150
What's hilarious is that the GOP Congress refuses to humor him and call it the Department of War in their funding legislation for it.
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>>218675166
I'd declare victory if I get what I want
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>>218675092
>Greenland thawing means nothing but snowstorms in Georgia.
The level of cope here is insane
>erm we dont need more rare earth minerals!
China owns 70% of the worlds rare earth minerals. We have 2%. Yes, actually, we do. Alaska has the potential for more extraction literally in the same way Greenland does. Even if we fully extracted all of the rare earth minerals in Alaska it would be like 20% of what China already has.
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>>218675197
Trump wants D.C. littered with gaudy monuments to himself, 10 billion in foreign bribes, and a clear runway to a non-extradition Arab paradise when he flies his Qatari luxury jet full of State Secrets across the Atlantic.

That's what Trump wants.
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>>218675197
he did not gain anything
all he did was lose a trade deal and come out as a giant pussy
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>>218675235
Wow just like in Wolfenstein vgh...
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>>218675241
>gained territory
>more mineral rights
>priority on infrastructure investment
>larger military presence
Holy cope go burn down a church or whatever you hinga dinga durgen people do for fun
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>>218675206
>China owns 70% of the worlds rare earth minerals.
No. Rare Earth minerals are ubiquitous all over the globe. China developed a cheap way to refine them out of raw ground, flooded the market with cheap rare Earths and drove American companies out of the business.

China also doesn't give 2 fucks about heinous environmental destruction chasing a buck, which gives them a huge advantage.
All China has is 70% of the business, because they undercut and drove everyone else out of the business. Go look it up.
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>>218675241
and let me add I HOPED he would escalate, after sweden and denmark dumped their bonds, we were set-up to dump our bonds next
https://ticdata.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/slt_table5.html

what a glorious day that would be
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>>218675274
You're going off gossip from a chat between Mark Rutte and Donald Trump. Nothing has been agreed upon.
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>>218675276
>No
Yes. They have 70% of the supply of extracted resources and 50% of the world's total known amount in metric tones of unextracted respurces lmao

The level of Trump dick obsession from this urbanite twink is just insane. Dude, go get laid.
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>>218675301
He's proud that American taxpayers have won the right to foot the bill for more improvements/security for another country. Literally. MAGA doesn't even mean anything anymore but whatever senile whim or fancy strikes Donald that week.
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>>218675274
There's literally no deal. Nobody's agreed on anything yet.
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>>218675301
Yeah that's the agreement as is, it hasn't been enacted yet and we dont know if anything changed
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>>218675274
dude... there's no deal
neither denmark or greenland has agreed to anything

this clip should tell you everything xD
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/W_UE7h3nTmQ
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>>218675319
Libshits have never been fond of real world concerns like resource scarcity. They think everyone can share everything equally by the power of love o algo
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>>218675335
Im well aware my mongolian friend
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>>218674619
>All at the price of making America look like it's led by Drunk Randy Quaid.
It could be worse lile Randy from south park
I thínk Trump is more like a more agressive and sighly less retarded version of Chris chan
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>>218675319
>They have 70% of the supply of extracted resources and 50% of the world's total known
Yes, as I said, they drove everyone else out with undercutting, and they've been doing most of the mining/prospecting, as they don't care about creating wasteland doing it.
Just because you've found and marked a lot of it doesn't mean you have most of it. We largely got out of the business of even looking for it until just a few years ago, the Chinese have been developing it for decades.

When we started looking for domestic Lithium for example it was not hard to find.
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>>218675334
>MAGA doesn't even mean anything anymore
Its an irredentist conservative populist movement dude , it doesn't mean "defund the military and abandon the empire"
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>>218675371
Randy Marsh defeated Bat-Dad, he's 50 times manlier than the Litigator-in-Chief.
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So instead of getting greenland we get breadcrumbs and a bootleg iron dome
Thank you trump very cool
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>>218675385
It's a cult propagated and run by billionaires to distract angry white people while they finish deregulating themselves and winning tax breaks Forever.
That's what it really is. People like Steven Miller dream of using it to destroy the Constitution, but it's not gonna stick.
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>>218675092
>out toughed by Mexico
Lol how, in what world
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>>218675380
>we should try to find more reserved of rare earth minerals
Yes
>we should not try to secure known massive deposits of rare earth minerals
No

Can I make it anymore simple? The theoretical presence of more of these minerals doesn't negate the known lmao
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>>218675395
>and a bootleg iron dome
We are never getting that dumb shit.
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>>218675092
youre so based cant lie
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>>218675418
Another victim of democratic machine politics lmao. Yes the Republicans are significantly corrupt, in fact it was mostly billionaires like the Koch Brothers and libertarian billionaires funding the Cato institute who pushed for mass migration through the Republican Party.

>you are not immune to propaganda
>except me im way too smart for that
That's you in a nutshell my dude
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>>218672296
copium overload
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>>218675418
Uh but the constitution was created by evil racist slavers destroying it is good chud
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>>218675421
>we should not try to secure known massive deposits of rare earth minerals
Again, the whole planet is SATURATED with rare earth minerals. Occasionally you get lucky and find a concentration of them (we did out West). But they are EVERYWHERE.
The difficulty is extracting them efficiently, cost-effectively and without creating an enormous barren Hellscape.
China devoted themselves fully to the first two, and give no fucks about the third, which is why they are the dominant party in them.
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>>218675206
>>218672571
>>218674651
Rare Earth Minerals aren't actually rare.
They're just in low concentration, but they're common in many places. It isn't like coal where you only find it in specific places but in huge concentrations.
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>>218675480
>The difficulty is extracting them efficiently, cost-effectively and without creating an enormous barren Hellscape.
Yes? Im sorry do you want to be a polluted hellscape like China? This is insane lmao. Yes we should try to find better places to mass extract these resources- like already barren frozen wastelands
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this is getting funnier and funnier
he is so happy about rare earth minerals that are frozen below meters thick ice crusts
he is so happy he gets to defend this giant empty wasteland with expensive rocket equipment (which is not even real yet and in and of itself completely unrealistic)
he is so happy he gets to build military bases unlike before or algo

its a long term deal
its the ultimate long term deal

i wish he had leaned into it a bit more, i want the eu to know that we cant rely on america and that it's not our (joint) empire, its their empire and the politicians to stop being pussies
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>>218675504
I am aware my dude
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>>218675479
Constitution is an ideal (we struggle with) and system to prevent Monarchal/Autocratic power grabs, as they bad enough of that shit in Europe before leaving. No one ever claimed it was fashioned by Saints.
We'd both miss life without it.
Rule by Multinational Corporatists larping as Populists would NOT be a fun time.
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>>218675480
>>218675504
>Again, the whole planet is SATURATED with rare earth minerals
Not easily accessible. There are extraction costs that differ.
Theoretically there's enough oil to last hundreds of years, but much of it inaccessible or prohibitively expensive to extract. I'd imagine the same is true of rare earth metals and minerals but idk
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>>218675512
do you have any idea how expensive it is to extract rare earth minerals out of a *frozen* wasteland? theres a reason the us arent exploiting alaska more
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>>218675532
*had enough
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>>218675530
Why bring up Greenland mineral rights like they were substantial, then?
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>>218675528
>and the politicians to stop being pussies
Youre german. If you haven't realized you need to kill about 90% of your politicians and overturn your entire democracy then I dont know what to say. You are ground zero for ZOG, the only reason why east Germany is slightly less cucked is due to it formerly being communist and its STILL cucked.

You guys are just as fucked as Sweden and Britain
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>>218672199
Too bad, I want America to bash smug yuroslaves and full annex the coalition like a game of EU4
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>>218675543
>Theoretically there's enough oil to last hundreds of years,
There's already enough found oil to last hundreds of years. It's not theoretical. The largest most populous nations are even pivoting away from it, because like coal it is just obsolete bulllshit.
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>>218675545
Global warming
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>>218675559
Because they are substantially concentrated in known quantities and so we should secure those known quantities. You have no concept of threat awareness do you?
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everyone thinks theyre a greenland expert all of a sudden
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>>218675545
Dude. Global warming is happening. The entire reason we are having this discussion is due to the Artic trade routes becoming more viable
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>>218675566
You missed my point. the point is that just because there's lots of X doesn't mean we realistically can access or extract all of that which exists
I may be off on the exact amount that the oil would last if we could extract all of it, but the point I was making is that the total amount is not the same as the amount that's actually extractable
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>>218675562
i dont want to kill anyone tbhon
also im east german, it sucks. wasteland of constant nagging by whiny atheist boomers about how everything used to be better under socialism and how the afd will bring honecker back o algo
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>>218675566
>The largest most populous nations are even pivoting away from it
>like coal
Hahahahahahahahaha

Like I said. Some gladiators twink
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>>218675543
The oil lasting that long isn't the issue, the issue is whether the environment will last long enough for us to comfortably live on this planet for hundreds of years or if we end up sharting all over the home that nurtured us until the only memory of humanity is a thick layer of plastic and labubus between the ice age and radioactive ash
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>>218675576
You're not going to find anything there that you wouldn't in the US's own territory already.
You'll find REMs wherever you survey for them.
It is Alaska but worse in every way.

Should the US invade Argentina to secure their farmland, next?
That is a 'known quantity' of perishable resource, more than Greenland's non-unique REM stocks are.
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>>218675576
You know who has vastly, vastly MORE? And other valuable minerals? I'll give you a hint, we occupied it militarily until Sleepy Joe was forced to remove the troops from it that Don promised he would right away then TACO'd out of it.
And we had already spent Trillions and tons of blood securing it.
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>>218675595
The end of the Ice Age is happening. Don't be disingenuous. When you say "global warming" you mean "anthroprocentric global warming", "Florida will be underwater by 2020", and all sorts of other pseudo-scientific nonsense that was predicted and never came true. But the retreat of glaciers has been happening for millennia. You are just trying to merge the two concepts.
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>>218675528
yus man, I've been laughing my ass off at this clown world and recent events

was amazing seeing european countries fucking the US over. (and I would suck your cock for supporting Denmark ngl)
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>>218675619
Not sure what that has to do with anything I said
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>>218675646
unfortunately i dont have it anymore but you can ask macron's wife
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>>218675566
>Global coal consumption hit record highs in 2023 and 2024, with demand surpassing 8.8 billion tonnes, driven by increased use in China, India, and Southeast Asia despite rapid renewable energy expansion.
Pretty much only retarded westerners have fallen for the "net zero" myth
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>>218675634
Ah, another Corporatist "Dumping astronomical amounts of pollutants and sythesized trash about the planet like Sanjeet has no appreciable effect on the globe, my Exxon scientists debunked it!".
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>>218672296
imagine even so much as linking this jeet-fucking faggot
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>>218675608
>dont want to kill anyone tbhon
Yeah youre a spiritually broken people, AfD included. I mean really? A race mixing lesbian is going to lead Germany to greatness?

Either sperg out and embrace your barbarian heritage or youre going to be raped to death by zog
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>>218675630
>You're not going to find anything there that you wouldn't in the US's own territory already
Except we have? The goalpost shifting lmao. We truly have a propagandized tool.

>>218675632
>Afghanistan would've been better than Greenland and Alaska
Hahahahahaha
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>>218675719
im not very good at being a christian but if theres one thing i will absolutely not do is even get close to wielding a weapon against someone else unless it is immediate self-defense
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>>218675666
me neither, we can work out some deal
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>>218675634
>anthroprocentric global warming
This has literally never been refuted except by retards who say "haha winter exist therefore no global warming"
Extreme weather patterns are expected in this rapid global warming like the freak winter storm this weekend and on balance the yearly global average temperature keeps rising
Just like the ozone layer issue these things are manageable if you stop sticking your head in the sand
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>>218675673
America has gone from getting 51% of it's electricity from coal, to 16%, just in the last 25 years. It goes down every single year now.
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>>218675739
why is everyone on here either trans or a nazi
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>>218675734
What have you found there?
The US has more REMs than it could use right now if it felt like doing the business of mining them.
Greenland is not mineralogically special or interesting.
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>>218675634
I dont care if its anthropogenic or not its objectively happening

>>218675688
>i heckin love science so much I fall for one kind of corporate grift over another!
Green energy isnt green. We burn more fossil fuels than ever in human history. Global climate change alarmism is political propaganda even if it is actually anthropogenic. You have to be the most psyop'd person ive talked to in awhile.
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>>218675734
>Except we have?
No, we haven't, and you asserting it doesn't make it true.
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>>218675774
>We burn more fossil fuels than ever in human history.
America burns substantially less fossil than it did even 20 years ago.
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>>218675774
>Even if we ARE responsible for climate change, it's propaganda to say that we're doing it because it makes me SAD :(
Holy shit you are one retarded faggot.
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>>218675754
hmm good question, maybe all the trans are also nazi
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>>218675757
Yeah but its extremely far away from the mainland us where all the nimbyists and environmentalists are? I mean the rare earth minerals thing isnt even the reason this is happening, its because of the artic trade routes becoming more viable
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>>218675673
China has already mastered solar and battery construction to the point that they're making more of each than their market can even support.
If your argument was that they're doing that too dirtily, that'd be one thing. But to act like they're not wholeheartedly pursuing renewables is braindead.
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>>218675820
you know my ex is also norwegian
miss him sometimes ngl
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>>218675825
Stick to the Northwest Passage argument.
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>>218675806
America does. The rest of the world absolutely does not and we are still extremely reliant on oil extraction not just for energy needs but for manufacturing and supply chain maintenance which includes way more than just gas.

>>218675812
>we should let the rest of the world extract and burn as many fossil fuels as possible while we switch over to scam green energy memes that are also extremely destructive for the environment
>screw extracting oil and coal!
Global warming whether you like it or not is 100% out of our control. Anthropogenic or not lmao. Thats the issue. I actually think its a bit of both personally, and I think our water pollution far exceeds the damage of the air pollution as well.

All of your green energy bullshit is a psyop for politicians to get you to vote and make them money in companies they invest in lmao. You are already fucked, there is no reversing global warming lmaon
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>>218675843
that's cute! something bad happen between you, or just drift apart?
had one from denmark, fell apart eventually due to long distance
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>>218675737
>is even get close to wielding a weapon against someone else unless it is immediate self-defense
You mean like the mass rape and exploitation of your people? Jesus told his disciples to carry swords and drove merchants out of the Temple. The OT outright justifies the killing of evil people if they become a threat to your own.
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>>218675749
Yeah because we switched to using natural gas which is more efficient
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>>218675873
... right. Im talking to a quisling. Almost forgot
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>>218674755
NTA but how fucking dumb and gullible are you?
Trump Always Chickens Out

it is the same fucking deal that we've had since 1951.
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>>218675781
We have located verifiable concentrated reserves of rare earth minerals outside of the US
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>>218675888
I invest in green energy too retard, anyways China is adopting green energy faster than we are and it has become a dominant force in their economy even compared to coal and oil. They're burning a lot of fossil fuels in absolute terms but its share of the pie is shrinking. India will likely follow suit soon.

Per capita, we're at fault - at the very least we could switch to nuclear but Republicans can only talk a big game about nuclear without doing jack fucking shit
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>>218672199
mercosur died for this btw
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>>218675748
>ozone layer issue
Wasn't solved by limiting amount of C02 emissions which are just as high as ever. It was CFC's. You are not going to get the rest of the world to stop burning fuels lmao, we did that because what made CFC's were never anything vital to geopolitical or economic expansion
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>>218675961
Sure buddy

>>218675978
>i invest in green energy too retard
Topkek. Solar energy isnt "green energy" btw that is a scam. China is making these farms to make money not to save the environment. Not that I expect you to understand the supply chain issues of producing and maintaining these farms when it comes to resource consumption and waste. We are going to permanently put a fuck ton of C02 into the air. That's it. Even if you stop it now its too late already lmao
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>>218675941
Stick to the arguments that might work on someone that isn't an idiot.
The REM argument doesn't work. The Northwest Passage argument might convince someone.



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