For People with ethnic background, how do you introduce yourself when traveling abroad ? Personally, I always say that I am French-arab, but I don't know, I always feel a strange sensation in people's eyes...What do ? In your country of course
>>218731425>I am French-arabSo... Italian?
>>218731425>I always say that I am French-arabDo you have a French and Arab passports/citizenship? If not, just say you're French with Arab ancestry.
>>218731451Yes i have 3 citizenships, France, Morrocco and Algeria
>>218731425I just say I'm American. Hyphens are for the deracinated.
>>218731425>people with ethnic backgroundyou mean everyone?everyone has to come from some ethnicity, no one spawns out of nowhere
>>218731468From where are you from ? I mean i think it's most easy when you are american
>>218731425just say im evrupean like slavic people do when they travel abroad
>>218731490I'm just from here. My family's lived in this state for millennia.
>>218731466C'est parce que tu es un bougnoule. T'es sorti du cul d'une bougnoule et tu enfanteras des bougnoules
>>218731488You know about what im speaking>>218731494Meh, it will not work, and nobody say "im european" abroad
>>218731501>>>>218731513>>218731524Encore toi ? Va te faire foutre
>>218731425>French-ArabYou're just Arab buddy
>>218731580Yes but, akchtually, hmm, you know bro
>>218731547T'es un gros bougnoule en fait abdoul, certifié. À force d'importer le tiers-monde, la France devient le tiers-monde. Si seulement ils pouvaient tous se barrer du pays comme toi, gros dégueulasse malsain terminalement atteint par le porno.
>>218731599>>218731527Tu vas pleurer longtemps, bougnoule ?>ouin-ouin je suis la victime du complot de droite mes arguments de gauche sont pourtant au top je ne comprends pas reddit sauve-moi !Trop de soja va te tuer, t'es pas chez toi ici il n'y a ni pseudo ni karma et ton drapeau ne fait aucune différence pour nous tous. Respire ou dégage, c'est aussi simple que ça le "net".
>>218731600>>218731600>Si seulement ils pouvaient tous se barrer du pays comme toi,Ou comme toi ?>gros dégueulasse malsain terminalement atteint par le porno.Arrête de projeter sur mon, t'es le seul dégénéré ici
>>218731425Ghanaian american, but in the states I’d probably just be identified as black
>>218731617Oublie pas de prendre tes médocs >>218731619Moi*
>>218731619Je m'en fous vous avez toujours une sale gueule de bougnoule, tu ne trompes personne. Tu viens juste dans le coin pour avoir la belle vie et parasité par ton existence même. Retourne dans la vallée de tes ancêtres
>>218731527>and nobody say "im european"eastern europeans do
>>218731631I've always wondered, what is the relationship between Africans and African Americans? I've read that there are some tensions
>>218731527>Meh, it will not work, and nobody say "im european" abroadLes apatrides ne se sentent jamais, ils vivent toujours dans la déconnection permanente, c'est encore pire s'ils ne sont pas du pays d'origine qu'ils critiquent. Genre un bougnoule en dehors, il est complétement hors-sol l'individu, sa tête déjà misérable ne se retrouve plus, il pète un plomb intérieurement. Tout ce qui le sauve sont la drogue et la jouissance, jouir comme un sous-homme ou une adolescente
>>218731644Non je partira pas ! Et j'ai rien fait de mal lâche ma veste mon pote
>>218731655Never heard that>>218731679Casse toi de mon fil sale pédé, et je doute que tu sois français, t'écris d'une manière bizarre, ça se voit que tu traduis
>>218731425If you're non-Muslim you might be French, if you're Muslim you're not French
>>218731527your english is so bad that you certainly pass as french
>>218731888Bon OK t'es pas français sale enculé, va te faire foutre et prends tes médocs,c'est la dernière fois que je remplis un captcha pour ta gueule
>>218731888This Singaporean just gets on here every now and again to unload random vitriol onto people. So weird. Kinda funny in a spastic way. Better than that Canadian who loses his shit whenever mlp is mentioned.
>>218731902He's practicing don't be mean.>>218731527>You know about what im speakingGrammatically correct but "You know what I'm talking about" would sound more native.
>>218731907Ferme ta gueule amine putain. Suicide-toi tout le monde te hait. Sale bougnoule de merde.
>>218731919Yes, already saw him>>218731931Thanks for the correction hehe>>218731935Ta gueule pédé, je suis un posteur apprécié par mes pairs
>>218731425If you feel truly assimilated French why not just be confident and say French?
>>218731466The eternal bougnoule.
>>218731967Jette-toi sous un train.
>>218731669Not really. Both groups recognize each other’s struggles and their American-born kids just assimilate into black American culture.
>>218731994Idk, i see ppl will not trust me, but if you tell me to choose between the 3 countries i will choose France ofc
>>218731425American because I’m a total mutt and have nothing in common with my ancestral homelands
>>218731425Tu dis français si t'es français
>>218732084Ta gueule niakoué
>>218732084Va te faire bourrer propricon.
>>218732020What, they'd think you're lying and trying to grift them? Remember, I am a New Worlder so I might not understand how Old Worlders think
>>218732111>What, they'd think you're lying and trying to grift them?No but the situation when i explain is just... weird
>>218732126I am sorry to hear about your dilemma. No offence intended, but I suspect giving up your 2 Maghrebi citizenships could help alleviate your identity crisis.
>>218732136He will NEVER be French no mater what anyway.
>>218731425it dependsif I shit myself, I say i'm mainland chinese/japaneseif I'm feeling generous and give tips, I say i'm singaporean
>>218732136Giving up citizenship can’t change his skin color and facial features
>>218732136Right, i thought this also, and thats true im not using these citizenships >>218732151Based kek
>>218732165Neither does it change is IQ, his bloodline, his demeanor, etc. He's just a fucking sandnigger.
>>218732165>>218732188you lot are brutal
>>218732209Don't reply to >>218732188Is the local schyzo of /fr/ escaped from asylum and who spends his time insulting people
Even though I'm originally from Peru, I just somehow always look like the local brown (i.e. Turkish in Germany, Arab in France, Roma in Romania, etc. ) and idk why, But when people inevitably ask where I'm from, I like to say I'm a native from USA, which I can easily pass as, mostly just for their reaction. Because when I first moved here I only lived around actual natives so I know the accent, and of course I resemble one despite somehow passing as other groupsIts kinda crazy because people who were immediately prejudiced and hateful just from seeing me simply became neutral when I said I was American, even in countries with reasons to hate Americans, and then even warmer when I mentioned tribal stuff.I also say I'm Peruvian of course, not that I switch depending on opportunities, but the native thing is funny and tells me all about a person's character when they switch up and change their racism
>>218732209It’s the unfortunate truth. People elsewhere think all French are white with brown hair and will just refer to him as “The Arab” or “The Muslim”.
I don't travel so I don't have to introduce myself.But even if I did travel, I still wouldn't be introducing myself.
>>218732299Based, if you are peruvian you are technically native, so it apply to you>>218732334Even in usa ? I thought i can fit there
>>218732334>People elsewhere think all French are white with brown hairThat's just you guys.The rest of the world knows that we are the default European people appearance-wise, with a little bit of every White facial features available.
>>218732334If he has a heavy french accent and doesn't look visibly muslim people might call him french first.
>>218732389USA is a bit more understanding since we are mutted, but you will always be thought of as an Arab first. Many French NBA players of African heritage are known as “the black guy from France”
>>218732417Not if his name is Arabic
>>218731425Old-stock White American gets the job done
>>218732426We generally think of people are what they are genetically and then nationality/cultural upbringing. I don't think most other places do that.
>>218732461Interesting i thought in usa that you can be whatever you want
>If he has a heavy french accent and doesn't look visibly muslim people might call him french first.>t.
>>218732473not that guy but it depends, some people here think of UK rappers all being English rather than pakistani or nigerian or jamaican here too
>>218732461Europe and East Asia do it too. France and maybe the UK are exceptions. There are third-generation Turks in Germany that are still considered foreigners. Same with Chinese in Malaysia.
>>218732461>We generally think of people are what they are genetically and then nationality/cultural upbringingNot really, normies in the U.S think 21 Savage is as British as John Cleese for example.
>>218732522Idk if France are in exception you still stay an immigrant even after 3 générations here
>>218732473No, we have giga autism determining what cultural identities are person can participate in based on blood heritage. It makes euros and latinos confused and uncomfortable. It's also why we claim to irish/italian when our families haven't been to either in 100 years.
>>218732522>France and maybe the UK are exceptions.Nope. No one here genuinely believes that some obvious African "person" is French. They have been trying to make us think like that for over 50 years, but no one does. Actually, the extreme far-left leader, Mélenchon, is building his whole political agenda on the fact that true French people should disappear and that Maghrebis should replace them. This is not a joke, look it up. Everyone knows that water wets and that being born in France does not make you French through magic.
>>218732558Trust me, they think of him as black way before they think of him as british
>>218732582>we have giga autism determining what cultural identities are person can participate in based on blood heritageIn all fairness that's more of a Northeastern/Midwest thing, rest of the U.S people sort of just sort along racial lines apart from immigrants.
>>218732598It extends to other regions too and even legal identities. You can't be Cherokee unless you prove you're a Dawes record descendant. Even very mutted groups like Creoles and Melungeons also base cultural identification with blood descent from their communties.
>>218732564>>218732583I thought France pioneered the whole civic nationalism idea. Black musicians in America used to go to France because they would be treated as equals there. Plus French people on social media did a lot of damage control after the 2018 World Cup because chuds were saying that it was Africa’s championship.
>>218732611>You can't be Cherokee unless you prove you're a Dawes record descendantIn all fairness that has more to do with the fact that you get legal and fiscal benefits from being Native in the U.S, as well as higher education bending over backwards for you because of White guilt cuckery being so endemic there. They do that to prevent Elizabeth Warrens given how rampant that shit is here and in Canada.>groups like Creoles and Melungeons also base cultural identification with blood descent from their communtiesHow, their whole identity is being a mutt in areas that are otherwise very racially segregated
>>218731679Pour la dame ta mère https://youtu.be/qx3ow7fY5UA
>>218732657>How, their whole identity is being a mutt in areas that are otherwise very racially segregatedThey're identities that were specifically born from racial classification, which is based on genetic background. They didn't fit in with blacks or whites so they became their own third thing. There's entire ethnic groups here that exist because of heritage autism that simply wouldn't exist anywhere else. The only parallel I could think of is Cape Coloureds in South Africa who have a similar history.
>>218732614It is true that civic nationalism was born in France. However, even if you are black despite the fact that your family has been French for centuries (frequent in overseas territories), then 100% of people will ask you the same question: "where are you ACTUALLY from?"People are dumb but not that much.
>>218732682>There's entire ethnic groups here that exist because of heritage autism that simply wouldn't exist anywhere elseIDK, groups like Metis/Mestizos and Pardos are pretty common in the New World. If anything they're far more rare in the U.S because Whites here were far stricter with racial segregation much like the Afrikaners and Rhodesians.Groups like the Melungeons, Creole, and Lumbee are far more rare here than in comparative New World countries.
>>218731425I'm Indonesian.
>>218732734What is metis pardo mestizo ?
>>218732845Boucaques
>>218732845>metis Canadians of French + Native extraction descended from French colonial fur traders. Their men tend to be either charming gigachads or jolly fat bastards with nothing inbetween while the women are very attractive (like Hapas but more pleasant and with more curves). Most live in Canada but a lot of them live in Minnesota, New England, Washington, etc. along the border of the lower 48.>pardo Brazilian term for mutt which is the average person there>mestizoAnyone in LatAm of mixed indigenous/Spanish ancestry, basically the term for normalfag Latinx that aren't Indio or White/Criollo/Castiza etc.
>>218732883Thanks, classifications are really weird in usa
you are an arab that speaks french lmao
>>218732901>classifications are really weird in usaThose aren't American terms, those are terms from those countries that aren't used almost at all in the U.S (except Metis because they've been here for a while in places like Minnesota, New England, the Dakotas, and Montana).If you're Mestizo everybody assumes you're Mexican unless you specify you're from Colomibia or Puerto Rico or some shit while everybody just uses "Brazilian" as an exonym for Pardos and Blacks to where most Americans don't even know White Brazilians exist lol.
>>218732933Thanks for clarifications bro, it was interesting
>>218733016Bicot.
>>218733047Oui et ?
>>218731466quintessentially french
>>218731466>Yes i have 3 citizenships, France, Morrocco and Algeria.Beurk. Juste Franco-algérien ou marocain j'aurais rien dit, mais ce genre de mélange inter-maghreb t'es un dégénéré à 100%
>>218732614Civil nationalism was really a thing at the time of Italian, Polish and Spanish immigration. We were also accepting of extra-Europeans because they were extremely few, like Alexandre Dumas was 1/4 Black. We were kinda the Amerimutts of Europe desu. Now there are so many immigrants from outside of the Europe they form their own segregated communities like Blacks in the US and so the civic nat thing is just a façade.
>>218731425No shit. When you are actually French and you go abroad all you hear is "your country is full of arabs i visited it it sucks it's dirty it's dangerous you have ruined your country with immigrants what are you doing it's a shithole now" etc, and this everywhere in the world, we hear this 24/7So when they meet you after they won't say it but they think the same thing
>>218731425>Tfw (half) brown>Tfw raised white by white parents around whites>Tfw am a coconutAfter moving to germany from Britian, it was kinda a shock that even third gen immigrants are considered foreign, but seeing how they act, how they dont fully adapt to german culture, and stay in their own circles I kinda get it. To be accepted you need to abandon all foreign aspects. No one wants to be around folk who arent normal, even 3rd gen immigrants sound "off" not all but most of them you can tell somethings not right. You also have to adapt to them. For example in france im assuming you always have to expect at least 1 muslim always being there and for the chill french people who smoke and lounge about, having to care for a baby believing baby nonsense is tiring. I see germans roll their eyes whenever someone doesnt eat pork, its extra effort so they avoid them
>>218731425you could almost certainly get away with saying you're french, us wypipo really can't tell the difference
>>218731425I state my original nationality even tho I'm born here.
>>218735351I always say I'm britsh btw, not the specific country in britain tho (mainly because foreigners don't get itAdding this because of what the norway flag posted
>>218735405Sure thing bougnoule.
>>218735551is it a southern french/italian/portuguese/basque or a syrian? I sure wouldn't be able to tell.
>>218731425Most won't actually consider you FrenchI don't eitherYou're just a second-generation squatter
>>218735590>muh Southern French memeI can recognize a Spaniard from an Algerian 98% of the time. The remaining 2% is some Kabyle outlier that doesn't look like the average Maghrebi ratface. There is too much subsaharian admixture in that one. Probably the reason why beurettes in France are so eager to be blacked.
>>218735796sure, but that's like how chinese people can differentiate each other easily while I can't
>>218731425>I'm 1/4 hohol, 1/8 jewish, 1/32 gypsyNo of course not, I just go by "romanian"
>>218731425Brazilian. It would be very complicated otherwise, and I would have to explain my entire family history and why I'm 5 ethnicities at once.
>>218731466Manquerait plus que tu sois homo, déchet.