Atheism is about to surpass Christianism as the religion of the majority of the population in the following months/years and there's going to be a lot of butthurtness about it in my country. Happens in your country?
I'd imagine it's already far and away the majority in people under 30. And here it's the same too.
>>218759874Good, Christianity is a farce.
>>218759886>hereyou mean California? Or the whole US?
>>218759901Probably everywhere besides the Bible Belt. Despite what people will say, there is absolutely no evidence of "Christian revival" among the youth.
>>218759874>Broo I am an athesit broo! Except for Christmas and the whole value system that was derived from European cultureWhy do Libcucks do this?
>>218759901Americans aren't religious but religious Americans are vocal and good at crowdfunding.
>>218759926>you have festivals based on christianity >you have "values">therefore you must concede christianity and the trinity and fake jewish history like the exodus is 100% real broeuropeans already completely refuted this cult during the enlightenment.
>>218759926lol you're acting like that's an edgy thing to believe when in my country it's the normal and your position is the edgy
>>218759874>and there's going to be a lot of butthurtness about it in my country.why? from whom?
>>218759960mainly this guyhttps://m.youtube.com/@UnTioBlancoHetero
>>218759958Religion is culture, Juan. Not going to work on Sunday is Christianity.>>218759952>Trinity le badAnon please don't get slapped by Santa>Fake Jewish historyAmericans are not Christians. No European Christian has ever thought that the schizo stories from the Old Testament are real history.
>>218759999>UnTioBlancoHeterowhat in the name of amerimutt culture wars export
>>218760031I don't go to work on mondays, tuesdays, wednesdays, thursdays, fridays, saturdays and sundays. my culture is siesta, and no jewish god ever invented that
>>218760047Extremely redpilled position
>>218760031so you are conceding that the exodus wasn't real and that the old testament isn't real either. then what's left to believe? a literal bodily resurrection of a dead guy after 3 days? magic bread? a literal invisible parallel realm where we have intangible "souls" which are antennas to that spirit realm? the entire schizoid book of revelation?
>>218760043recently he has felt so confident that he's not gonna get hatecrimed that he stopped wearing the mask hiding his face. I think the culture wars are working
>>218760075OT: fanfic/ stories of wisdomNT: real, except for the parts I don't likeSouls and shiet: probably real
>>218760031>>218760075catholics believe in the old testament too, so I don't know what anon is on about
>>218759874Atheism wins
>>218760113Catholic church is cool with evolution which is hard to shoehorn into a literal interpretation of Genesis.
>>218759874Atheism is not a religion Manolo. Is a lack of it
>>218760132That's debatable
>>218760113>catholics believe in the old testament tooSaint Gregory of Nyssa said "if one does not read scripture in a philosophical fashion one will see only myths and contradictions.”Very few early Christian Church Fathers and Saints actually believed Genesis was literal, very few of them were biblical literalists.
>>218760198>Saint Gregory of Nyssaliterally who?
>>218760220
>>218759926>you have festivals based on pagan gods>you derive suppositions about weather based on arbitrary events>superstitions get you through the dayMany Christians, especially from the overwhelmingly rural Orthodox Eastern Europe, are culturally pagan. In fact, most atheists are culturally Christian i.e. more urbane and refined, while the most radical Orthodox believers are culturally pagan peasants.
>>218760083what is this phenotype called
atheism is retarded. the existence of the universe, life, and human consciousness are all far too bizarre to presume that just because we can’t test the supernatural in a lab and publish the results in a peer reviewed journal it must not exist. At least agnostics are honest
>>218760343https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropic_principle
>>218760405that presumes the existence of “other universes” a concept for which there is no evidence but redditors have invented whole cloth as something other than God that they can have faith in
>>218760464it doesn't require the existence of other universes, but there is more evidence conceptually for other universes (CMB, string theory) than the resurrection of jesus, lashing out at reddit athiesm doesn't change that. you can be an athiest and not believe in other universes, you cannot be a christian and deny the resurrection, unless you want to end up with exactly the same vague feel-good beliefs as the reddit atheist.
so spain is catching up with the rest of the developed world? fascinating
What's the point? Mohamedianism is on course to overtake every western european nation, atheism is a short term fad, there's no value brought forward by its growth, it's a sign of western decadence.
>>218759874Yes except the butthurt thing
>>218760993Mohamedianism sees abysmal amount of conversion from host nations, all it takes is for their fertility rate to collapse and maybe a little more critical thinking regarding how foolish their religion is on their part
>>218760464so Gods and intelligent creation are real but parallel universes is where you draw the line?
>>218761006They dont integrate, are poor and stupid and have low status, they go back to islam because it gives them a feeling of superiority.
>>218761378look at the graph. only 3% are non catholics. this is including protestants and buddhists and shit.muslim parents do their best to educate their kids into the bomb planting religion, but they all turn to atheism if they grew up in Spain
>>218761416They probably dont feel so alienated in Spain because it's very similar culture and peopleCentral and North Europe is not the same.
>>218759874Football is the most dominant religion in Portugal for several decades. Christians didn't seemed to be much bothered about the fact that churches are empty, only visited by women above 55 yo, and brazilian immigrants, meanwhile stadiums are filled every weekend, and millions more tuning in on tv for their religious experience.
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>>218759874most people still identify as whatever religion they are from, though it's just cultural habit not because they are religious. orthodoxy is basically synonymous with atheism
>>218759874>Happens in your country?Decades ago yes.
Iberia is becoming a huge shithole, makes ne sad.
>>218759874>Atheism>religion
>>218759874Me and my brother are converting to Catholicism.
I'm an atheist but I have no delusions about most atheists being religious retards about ideology and atheism shrinking globally. These Spanish atheists are importing theocrats that will end them.
>>218760343presuming that god created the world just pushes the question away into who created god
>>218761416sounds completely made up. The persistent pattern is the 2nd and 3rd gen Muslim immigrants that become fanatics
atheism is dumb afthe chance this universe wasn't created is infinitely close to zeroor are we doing semantics where this universe's creator is called something other a god? well the creator sure is a god from our perspectivehaving said that, the chance any of our popular religions is right about the creator is also near zero
>>218759874Atheists are insects
>>218760113catholics wrote the old testament
>>218759874Looks like 55.4% Catholics vs 15.8% atheists. So that's not gonna happen any time soon
>>218760768>developed worlddeveloped world just means the parts of the world where cuck porn is popular
>>218764762Bullshit map. We atheistmog you especially in eastern Germany
>>218765609looks like 18% real catholics against 15+12+11 non religious people. And in my opinion the 36% of non practicing catholics count as atheists too
>>218765689Oh look, the schizo is back.
>>218765689atheism is the opposite of mogg
>>218765317I always think like, if we have to assume that something always existed which created the universe, why can't we just say that the universe itself always existed and skip the part where something created it. It's not any weirder than if there was a thing that just always existed and eventually decided to intentionally make everything
>>218765830Big bang theory
>seething christcucks always a sight to behold
>>218759874"Non-practicing" is just an atheist who doesn't want to admit it. It's like being a closet atheist. Atheism has been the majority for a long time already.
>>218765830Physical stuff is always contingent upon particular circumstances, non-physical God doesn’t need to be.
>>218760132>Believer: put faith in god existing>Atheism: put faith in god not existingIt is kind of the same
>>218765830>why can't we just say that the universe itself always existed and skip the part where something created itbecause that's extremely unlikelyeven our god was most likely created by another godand that god was created by a godand so on
>>218765830It's circular logic. Christianity says the world was created so Christians think it's real and use it as an argument for why Christianity is real.>>218766216>>Atheism: put faith in god not existingThat's not what atheism is. Atheism is not putting faith in god existing. It's very different from putting faith in god(s) not existing but you people like to ignore that and claim it's what atheists are so you can own them and call them religious people.
>>218761531its the exact opposite you retarded asian. We have dealt with moors for so long we have surnames such as "moorkiller", it is the cucked northern europeans that have never dealt with the african in their history so they dont know their nature. kys
>>218765961That just says that things were squashed together at some point and then expanded, but it doesn't say anything about what was going on before that
>>218766294The thought process is the same in both cases. Believer can never truly know for certain if their god exists and atheists can never truly know if god doesn't exist. Both are just assuming things, which is the reason we are having this conversation to begin with. If you really are a rational logical person, which is what atheists wrongly claim many times, then they would be agnostics, not atheists.
>>218766231Okay, so at what point does it reach an end? At some point there should be something that wasn't created
>>218759874Embrace Islam, your ancestor's religion.
I believe in God, or something like a God, because of my experiences. There is a messenger that seems to know what I am thinking, and can guide me to what it wants to say. It’s indirect, but it would be absurd to explain its messages as coincidence. I don’t know anything about its nature, but I do sense that is has great compassion. I am frightened by the idea that maybe even this messenger does not understand the Universe, how it came to be, why there IS anything. That there is no final answer. But this life does seem purposeful, doesn’t it?
>>218766422>Both are just assuming thingsStill no. The religious person is assuming god exists. He believes in god. The atheist person is not assuming god exists. He doesn't believe in god.Not believing something exists is not the same things as believing something does not exist. Try to get it in your head.
>>218759874I practiced Atheism as a teenager but it required me to perform too many rituals and the way other Atheists performed their evangelism seemed too forcefulSo I went back to being a cultural Catholic and ultimately found Jesus
>>218766426well we'll never find out, solet's say we go several trillion universes up and the god we find there goes "yeah I'm the first god ever believe it dattebayo"we don't know if that's the truth
>>218760031>Religion is cultureGo back achmed
>>218766216I agree and there's no such thing as civilization without religion, the soviets replaced god with communism and now the western world replaces it with capitalist hedonism
>>218760120Ok I don't care about the whole transgender thing and mutilating children, but anykne who makes videos like that is clearly mentally ill.
atheism isnt believing in no god. atheism is just being normal and existing day to day.Believing in a god a makes you weird
>>218760120This type of mental illness where people think facts and reality have to follow their worldview is much closer to religion than to atheism desu.
>>218759874Based atheist chads saving España
>>218766776wrong
>>218767213No
>>218765689>>218766998three generations of atheism have truly made east germany a shitty place full of retards that dont stop complaining that the state doesnt wipe their butt and alternating between praising socialism, romanticising the gdr and voting for the afd
>>218765830the universe always having existed is basically disproven with the inflation theory. it had a starting point. what was before? if another universe, what before that?there's a reason the person that was at the forefront of the big bang theory was a catholic priest (even though its not exactly unchanged as the prevailing scientific opinion but the underlying idea is still the same)the idea of a being outside of time and matter (God) creating time and matter makes more sense to me than time and matter appearing out of nothing"who created God" is a silly question, because it ignores the properties of God
>>218767333The universe was not created in the big bang. It's like saying a grenade was created when it exploded.
>>218767380the starting point of the universe is most definitely some initial event before the cosmic inflation. you can't compare it to a grenade. before the universe, there was no space-time or matter
>>218759874It’s going to happen in Brazil too. Catholicism is declining so fast it’s hard to believe, and atheism is rising quickly. The country will be less and less Christian with each census, it’s basically over for the Church here. Also, Catholics make up 56% of the population, but only a tiny minority are practicing, and they’re mostly old people. It’s funny to see Catholics seething online.
>>218767576isnt like a quarter of brazil protestant
>>218767436>the starting point>some initial event>before the universeThese are all assumptions you are making because you believe the universe was created like it says in the Bible but it is circular logic. "The universe had to be created because how else would it have been created"
>>218767436>>218767333My understanding is that the amount of energy was the same, it was just squeezed into that little point, but it doesn't mean the energy appeared when it expanded. So the universe as we know it didn't exist, but the total amount of energy was the same, and who knows what form it had before that. So my view on this tends to just be "idk". Eternity is a weird concept anyway, if we say there was a god that has always existed, how long did they wait before making the universe, or how do you even measure time in relation to eternity. In any case it seems like something has always existed, but why? Who knows lol, does it even matter really
>>218767620Yes, but atheism and irreligion are what’s actually growing fast now. People aren’t converting to evangelicalism like they were in the 2000s, they’re just leaving religion altogether.
>>218767669i said before the cosmic inflation not before the universe and im sorry but this is just scientific research that much has to be accepted by you>>218767677God didn't "wait" to create the universe because while the universe exists within the bounds of time God ontologically doesn't. you don't measure time in relation to eternity. time and matter are of this worldthey don't really think of it as an infinitely tiny point anymore but something that snapped certain conditions into some sort of quickly expanding sphere as far as i knowchristianity can either be of no importance or of infinite importance. the only thing it can't be is shrugged at because you don't know why it mattersagain, the static universe was a theory before. but just like the cosmological constant, the idea that the universe is constantly expanding and retracting doesn't really make sense, if anything, the universe should cool off eventually
>>218767797according to pew, about 20% of young brazilians are religiously unaffiliated. that's not nothing, but it certainly doesn't mean religion is on its deathbedrest of the numbers are interesting tho, 36% catholic, 30% protestant, but pentecostalism seems to be declining. i don't know if they're now belonging to presbyterian churches or something. would surprise me but then again so did seeing this
>>218767797also maybe this interests you
in one hand, I'm glad that people are waking up from this outdated delusionbut in the other hand, I'm a bit worried because if a bad person becomes irreligious, there will be ethically nothing to stop him to start murder people and steal shit
>>218768540dont worry we had plenty of atheist leaders like hitler stalin and mao and when has that ever lead to the death of someone
>>218768540Most people are retarded and need religion.
>>218759926I like celebrations but I just don't believe in god of any sort
>>218760031Not going to work on Saturday is socialism and I don't work during Saturday even though I'm not a socialist
>>218767915>i said before the cosmic inflation not before the universe>>218767436>before the universe, there was no space-time or matterYou very clearly did say "before the universe".
>>218759922> Despite what people will say, there is absolutely no evidence of "Christian revival" among the youth.The fedora hates statistical data as soon as it’s something he doesn’t like.
>>218770630bruh. i said the starting point is before the cosmic inflation. thats different from saying what before the universe was which is nothing. am i talking chinese
>>218771579You said "before the universe, there was no space-time or matter". That's a fucking fact. Am I speaking chinese here?
>>218759874Superstitious niggas seething in this thread lmao.
>>218759926>except saturnalia and the whole value system that was derived from greek philosophers
>>218767227Go back achmed
>>218768540In the grand scheme of things, you are the kurd
>>218772356i am neither muslim nor middle eastern
>>218771731it was clearly referring to my first sentence, u dont need to misread me
>>218772767>it was clearly referring to my first sentenceWhat was?
>>218772879>>218767669i dont wanna keep talking to a wall if i wanted to have people discussing religion in the most annoying way id get a reddit accountlately this board is feeling like reddit from a few years ago if you replace slurs with stuff like religiot and alike
>>218772617Go back achmed
>>218772963If you're talking about my post referring to your first sentence then you're simply wrong. You again assumed things and decided they're the truth with no evidence backing you up.
>>218772986I'm Saxon in at least the 5th generation but if it helps you sleepI genuinely hate East Germans I wish I'd been born elsewhere, most annoying group of people ever
>>218767045Humans by necessity need to believe in something in order to function.
>>218772994>You again assumed things and decided they're the truth with no evidence backing you uptips fedora
Be careful that islamists do not come and fill the void.
>>218773110hear me outatheist. jihad.
>>218773169they already did that in china its called cultural revolution
>>218759874Okay
>>218773196white people can make it work I bet
>>218760120Imagine dying in of those stupid fucking wars for a society like this
>>218765317Fucking christcucks always result to the ”Urm well whatabout the creation of the universe”-cope, whilst participating in a mass delusion that believes in prayers, heaven and hell, and zombie jesus.
If Christians cared about attracting people to their religion then maybe they'd do more to police the hypocrisy that runs through it like a virus.Declare evangelicals and the such as evil heretics I say.
>>218773043Maybe, but reality doesn't care about the psychological needs of humans.
>>218773043The trick is to believe in true things. This way you don't become mentally ill.
>>218771333The youngest people are the least religious. Stop coping and embrace that Christianity is a corpse propped up by the decrepit.
>>218760993Islam is just 100 years behind or however many
>>218759874It already happened of you don't count Orthodox christians
