Britain had complete control of Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth, and gave those cities up to Jews and Muslims
>>218801857Rome had complete control of Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth, killed Jesus, then created the Vatican for some reason.
>>218801857Jerusalem belongs to the kingdom of the 2 sicilies though
Israel had complete control of Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth, and gave those cities up to the palestinians
>>218801951the "Vatican" was created in 1926 o algo
>>218801857Muslims had complete control of Jerusalem, Bethlehem, Nazareth, and they never gave those cities up to Jews
>>218801857britain never had control of any of thatbritain tried and failed to occupy our cities, britain was defeated by freedom fighters of a far stronger nation and fled
>>218801857>Britain had complete control of London and Birmingham, and gave up those cities to...
>>218802012why do you people hate them? what of Balfour declaration?
>>218801951>killed JesusMatthew 27:25>>218801990That was God's will as payback for killing Jesus, it was good
Britain also stabbed Greece in the back when Greece was about to liberate Constantinople
>>218802044pp is schizo nationalist
>>218801990Judea got their ass slammed a long time ago. The only reason you have anything is because Europeans felt sorry for you after WW2.
>>218802044colonizersdid poles not mind it when communists and nazis colonized poland
>>218802291they literally helped you move there
>>218802544poland might want a foreign occupation to 'help you move there', we're not interested.
>>218801951>killed Jesus,1 Thessalonians 2 13-15
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>>218801951>killed JesusSurah An-Nisa 4:157-158
>>218802753i think most world nations are similar to us and not to poland in this case. the occupation was defeated
>>218802677>>218802056>nnnnooooo my heckin cool Faustian Rome didn't kill my epic crusader icon jesusrino nnnnnoooo fuck am I glad Australia isn't a backwards shithole where fundies still hold sway
>>218801951>killed JesusSugondese 6:7
>>218801857Who the fuck cares? These are all massive shitholes
>>218802044People always yap about the Balfour declaration but never mention the Biltmore conference resolution or the 1936 White Paper >TL;DR : British Empire quickly regretted the Balfour declaration upon realizing they'd have to deal with Arab unrest so they drastically limited Jewish entry into Palestine which triggered Zionist Paramilitaries into committing terrorism against British authorities
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>>218802544British attitude towards Zionism changed, simple as that. By the 1930s they were seen as a headache and the government wanted to stop the movement. One of the more 'famous' cases was when the Brits told Holocaust survivors to fuck off and interned them in Cyprus before deportation.
>>218803061the proportion of Jewish population of Palestine increased from less then 10% to over a third under mandate. bong administration was ideologically zionist even if they retracted some of their moves in that direction for practical reasons
>>218803064why then by your logic does poland spend time and money on millitary alliances (nato) and maintaining an army?
>>218802672LMAO nigger you *ARE* the foreign occupation
>>218803141Yeah they were Zionist until 1936 when the Arab revolt happened and made it clear that there would be opposition to a continuation of that policy. British Army officers on the ground began to sour on Zionists when they began getting fucking bombed and shot at by them after that too. The Sergeants' Affair was when Zios straight up kidnapped and murdered two British sergeants (one of which was Jewish himself) and it triggered rioting against Jews back in the UK
>>218801857You gave up your own anglo lands too. Why didn't you implement Imperial Federation
>>218804119>Why didn't you implement Imperial FederationBecause, realistically, we didn't want it.Scots and English hate each other over literally nothing despite 300 years of peaceful union coexistence. Canadians barely keep a lid on Quebec. New Zealand refused to join us when we federated. Now imagine trying to group all of those people together into one country, we'd be tearing at each other's throats within a fortnight.
>>218804268>we didn't want it. There was support for it in Britain and across the dominions. The very first colonial conference was organised by the Imperial Federation League. It was wanted. It being a federation would solve the issues of wanting local power while organising everything. The Expansion of England book predicted we'd all become irrelevant if this didn't happen too.
>>218804381Being super petty about our local autonomy and not giving a fuck about any wider pan-Anglo identity is genuinely a distinctly Anglo-Saxon trait in itself. An Imperial Federation would strain and croak from internal tensions the same way the UK right now is straining with Scotland and Canada's never ending headache with Quebec. Australia got really lucky because we're super homogenous so no real subcultures developed within our country, but if we had annexed New Zealand we'd probably have a similar situation with them demanding independence. Additionally our interests just vary too much, due to geography, to be coherent. The British Empire wasn't able to defend Singapore from Japan while simultaneously fighting Germany, and this was actually the ultimate prompt for Australian independence from the UK over anything else. Brits obviously prioritise defending their European homeland over defending the far east, whereas we obviously prioritised defending our homeland over the European far west.
>>218804482>straining with ScotlandThats not happening anymore. >the UK right now is straining with ScotlandThat's not happening anymore. The SNP imploded.>Canada's never ending headache with QuebecThis only became an issue in the 60s onwards. After the government kept conceding to them.>due to geography,This wasn't an issue before the world wars. Especially it if happened in or after 1887.>Brits obviously prioritise defending their European homeland over defending the far east, If Australia was under serious threat they and us would have sent help. Like during the Boer Wars.
>>218804686>This wasn't an issue before the world wars.So it wasn't an issue before the world wars exposed the vulnerability of the system, is what you're saying.>If Australia was under serious threat they and us would have sent help. Like during the Boer WarsThey wouldn't because they just physically couldn't, Britain was strained beyond its limits in WW2, hence being straight up broke. The manpower and industrial demands of that war simply outpaced what the British Empire could do. I'm definitely not a Curtin Brisbane Line Now type since the Japanese invasion threat was indeed proven to be overblown, but we were still pretty vulnerable in the Pacific if the US hadn't been there to overwhelm the Japs.
>>218806012>is what you're saying. No. The world wars (especially the first) bankrupted the Empire. If we didn't fight in that we probably would have been in a better position.>They wouldn't because they just physically couldn'tThe British Pacific Fleet was based in Sydney and supported the US Navy. It was a combination of thr European, Canadian, Australian and New Zealand fleets.
>>218806313British Pacific Fleet only became available after they finished off the Jerries in late 1944, not when it was needed in the moment of crisis.Don't get me wrong I have nothing against a Common Travel Area and residency rights for (first world) Commonwealth citizens across CANZUK, but a unified federal government would only make us hate each other genuinely
>>218807304We agree to disagree I guess.
>>218801857That's for the better, otherwise English would have flooded the Holy Land with Negroes.
>>218801857Yet they always thought we Catholics were the wrong type of Christians, heretics etc lol. The irony of that.
>>218801857The British believed allowing Jews to immigrate to Palestine would be repaid in loyalty to the UK and likened it to the Ulster plantations. So even if the Arabs were hostile and places like Jordan and Iraq were to fall from British hands (which on paper they were as class A League of Nations mandates) they’d still have a presence in the Levant. Obviously this did not at all pan out but there was a mindset behind it and I think by the 20th century the fervour and prestige of controlling the Holy Land had wound down.
