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remember that time apple made the best phone charger in the market and europeans went all "oooogh is that innovation???? im gonna... im gonna.. im gonna regooooolaaatee!!!!!!" and killed it in exchange for the standardized piece of shit that is the usb c standard?
we could have had magsafe lightning chargers for your phone in current year but europenas just had to fuck it up
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>best phone charger in the market
???
A cable is a cable you retarded soyboy
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Didn't read
Still rocking my OPPO
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>lightning
>phone charger
>best by any metric
ayy lmao
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>>218818530
Nope I dont remember, I dont follow the news and dont know about what you kvetch
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copium
lightning was the fastest at its time and the magsafe tech for the macbook pros is literally the best you can get in the laptop market
the only reason 2025 iphone doesnt have a polished lightning that mogs usb c is because europoors literally banned innovation
usb c cant evolve fast enough cuz they need to design new standards and agree with like 200 countries over 5 years even for an interation on a established version like USB-C (or is it gen 3? gen 4? gen 5-f? i lost count at this point)
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>>218818575
a cable isnt a cable when one of the cables has a magnetic direction agnostic connection that you literally can fucking connect with youe arm with the end a mile away from where you're holding and have it be stable for normal use and retardedly easy to remove with the flick of ur finger if you just do it perpendicular to the charging port
if you havent used a macbook pro magsafe your opinion literally doesnt matter itt
usb c took like 10 years after apple to standardize direction agnostic charging ports and people will really act like its not stifling innovation and just androidfags and europoors pulling everyone down to their level instead of up to a better average charging standard
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>>218819078
Hate on europe all you want, but lightning was never not hot garbage. aren't lightning iphones capped at USB2.0 speeds? lel
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>>218819154
lightining standard literally came out 3 years before that usb c standard retard
besides 2011-2014? was literally a different time, its not even an apple user only issue, android was the king of innovation back then and apple just picked the shit that worked and polished it to hell and back
ever since they regoolated everything android can't innovate on shit, and apple can't polish shit, now they're the ones responsible for innovations which is retarded and has been since steve jobs died of ligma
nu apple post 2000s literally cant come up with a brand new good idea to save their lives but yeah sure they should be in charge of innovation while the obvious chink shit cheapo open source adjacent part of the market should work on polish
what is this ass backwards fucking arrangement?
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>>218818530
Retarded soyboy consoomer
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>>218818530
>Apple exclusive shit
Who cares?
I'm not a brownoid so I don't need a IPhone as a status symbol and would rather use a Chink phone with similar hardware for 1/4 of the price.
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>>218818530
Counterpoint: iphones are for women and faggots, the only connector they care about is cock
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>>218819301
>>218819329
>>218819336
>hurdur not innovating is good because *checks notes* i cant afford a good phone
name 5 usb standard innovations from 2015 to now you can remember off the top of your head
name 5 usb standard innovations from 2000 to 2015 you can remember off the top of your head
guarantee you will have less trouble with the second one

besides imagine if when quake released they started pulling this shit with ATI and then subsequently AMD / NVIDIA? nvidia has been a piece of shit at sharing very well known but they invented just about everything that is now standard on any processing hardware just because AMD was allowed to go back and standardize and open protocol the ideas. we'd literally still be in the pre gtx days in terms of processing power and features unironically

if you dgaf about the apple charging standard then dont come crying to me when literally the same anti trust bullshit happens to the computing market as if it hasnt been the case for 10 years already. AMD is droppping open source focus and NVIDIA went full blown stagnation in the general computing market and blowing up in evaluation, as soon as they get hit with a monopoly lawsuit the computing market for computers is FINISHED. literally 0 innovation made from 2030-2040.
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>>218818530
i use glorious zhongguo charger
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>>218819282
I still don't quite get what you're mad about, there's nothing that lightning offered that couldn't be also obtained with the industry standard, also the male end is super frail.
Lightning existed as an incompatible standard with the sole purpose to serve as a way for apple to gatekeep and profit off the phone accessories market, they've been doing this since forever
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>>218819544
yep, and it lasted like 2 years and was at the time a full generation better than the most recent standard. the reason you think nothing came out of this anti trust ban is because you literally only saw the 2 years that were underwhelming and then TWELVE YEARS of diminishing returns from usb c catching up with all that was innovated (FROM EITHER SIDE) in the 2000s up to 2013
whats impressive about the phone market past 2015? folding phones that break with the most minor force? weird ass no tactile feel disgusting notched standard we centered on for everything where even people trying to compete just do software bevels instead of getting rid of the notch in hardware? get real
think hard for a second about how trying to monopolize a small market like phone accessories for a year or three is bad when theres an open competitor anyone can switch to if they prefer
if you dont understand what im getting at even now then just admit you dgaf about free market economics when you dislike one of the players, nothing wrong with being a hypocrite about your thoughts if you just spent 20 years listening to the circlejerk telling you you were right
and lets be real most people itt were only conscious at about the time when lightning anti trust happened if theyre between 20 and 25, actually fed propaganda since they were a kid
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>>218819761
look i respect autism and niche interests but its time to stop you're only harming yourself
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OP is either baiting, profoundly retarded or some LLM chatbot trained on fuck knows what data set. Can't even fucking tell apart these days.
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>>218819839
i literally have credentials on this field and know what im talking about and have been alive long enough to know what steve jobs was like falling down from his prime. most people discussing this have never even seen steve jobs before he died much less paid attention to the actual specific topic we are talking about
nu apple is a piece of shit and their CEO is a spineless coward, thats what people are used to after 20 years of it being hammered in, but it wasnt like steve jobs philosophy of pushing out mega polished single feature upgrades died immediately after he did, it took almost 10 years of apple corrupting the idea into "release 50 garbage features with no polish then bugfix the one that already breaks the least"
you retards with zero reading comprehension only think that it would always be apple making these retarded monopolies and we wouldnt eventually have other companies entering the premium phone market with less retarded contrivances over time WHICH WE DO HAVE NOW BUT TOOK AGES and never got to competing with apple on release day budgetting aside, usb c didn't kill this idea outright by itself but it was the start
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>>218820004
btw premium android brands not innovating is a primary cause and effect of what im talking about. if you hate folding phones you literally have this isolated incident to blame after a bunch of dominoes in the way.
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>>218819846
am i? or am i just literally the only one itt making points while everyone is going "mmmh but apple icky though.."
im convinced enough myself of my positions just from the fact no autist is willing to come here and tackle the points im actually making lmao
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>>218818530
>magsafe lightning chargers
Those are two separate things. Your pic has a lighting charger, wish I know from experience is complete and utter ass.
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ITT: consoomer ape spergs about not being able to waste more money
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>>218818530
Apple had years to make lightning not shit, and refused to keep up. Now poor Tim Apple can't collect licensing fees. Feel bad for him.
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>>218820242
>we could have had magsafe lightning chargers for your phone in current year but europenas just had to fuck it up
>retard forgets lightning is 12 years old at this point and im talking about a hypothetical in 2025
zero reading comprehension award
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>>218820959
did they though. they only had a year or two since the anti trusts started coming up, and by the time they cornered the market i doubt they were spending any budget on polishing the turd they had instead of planning the next gen
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>>218820672
except, you retard, a thunderbolt 4 cable has 100x the features the most modern usb c standard has an even while being apple exclusive its still retardedly cheap, not least of which being multiple 4k monitor seamless pass through BUILT IN, you literally just connect monitors between each other with the same basic ass cable and it lets you use a normal cross monitor support
WITH A FUCKING USB C FORM FACTOR
FOR YOUR PHONE
usb c is still a meme even with all the bullshit holding apple back, but now its actively held back from improving itself due to all the regulation. dont get me started on the charging only magsafe connectors which are also cents on the market and have no comparable open standard
this retarded false dichotomy about price doesnt exist
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>>218821399
Governments were prodding at Apple about USB-C on iPhones for years beforehand. They were already using USB-C on other devices since 2015. Lightning's only purpose is to fuck you over with a several dollar fee per product.
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>>218821696
jesus christ when will you drooling retards understand lightning was literally the least bad thing that happened in 20y in this story
it was objectively a better port than any alternative released at the time, look it up yourself, every single spec and feature mirrored from the most popular usbs, specs boosted a ton and a bunch of major features added on top
the fact that they could only iterate on it for about a year before daddy europe slapped them to stop and it still took almost 5 years for usb c to catch up is proof enough if youre not retarded
everything worse that came after that has nothing to do with lightning specifically, just this retarded precedent against free market in tech by the regulatooors
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also usb-c standardized years after lightning
if you werent being revisionists youd know the most recent standard was usb 3.1 and lightining mogged the shit out of that, wont even touch on the fact that at the time lightning released almost everyone was still on USB 2
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>>218818530
>Unironically supporting specialized charging bs from Billion dollar corp over universal cables
Read halfway then realized I'm reading what a retard wrote so I stopped. Maybe you can dream up a world where appel got their special chargers plugged up to yar ass when you cry yourself to sleep tonight eh fanboy
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>>218822150
retarded facetious cope
how do you feel about the fact usb c still hasnt matched the tactile feel of lightning which released 12 fucking years ago? oh wait you dont feel anything because you never actually used the cable you brainwashed retard who just listened to the mega android market lobby over the mega apple lobby and dont realize its all one and the same and you just fell for the most reddit one because you were a clueless 12yo
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>>218818530
>amerishart special snowflake charger
Nah fuck off retard.
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>>218818530
every fucking zoomie i know owns iphone that costs few hundred bucks but they never have a cable to charge their shit when it runs out because they can't fucking remember to plug their retardphones when they go to sleep
curious
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>>218822231
>caring about the tactility of a cable
verifiable 'tism thread
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fuck the EU fr. Apple fags won't stop asking to borrow my charger now.
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>>218822327
just one of the many benefits dumbass
pick up a thunderbolt cable which is just polished usb c and tell me you dont feel a difference
shit is impossible to disconnect from your phone by accident, never breaks "bad" inside your phone, and has a hefty click and thud when connecting besides all the fuckton of features and spec improvements which are literally held back by usb c

/int/ will now proceed to argue against tactile feel and retarded ass soft "touch" connectors just to own le apple
guess what apple is dominating the wireless charging field too so you have no excuse there usbc tards
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>>218822425
dominating in all 3 fields i should say, unfortunately phones dont have magsafe but as ive said before magsafe for laptops has all the tactile feedback and stability of thunderbolt except you can literally just flail the cable around to connect it due to the mag port
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heres a visual demonstration of my two generation dated m2 macbook pro from work
tell me this shit isnt kino even without looking at the features which are btw retardedly good (1h to 100%, 1 week to 0% with daily computing usage battery charging), for one thing I literally had to hold down the laptop with my feet while filming just to not drop it on the ground trying to pull the cable outwards centered
if i can do all this shit while fucking around with one hand you can get a feel of how it feels when actually using it normally
im literally just seething that theres nothing like this for your phone where id be doing this sort of shit more often, it feels great on laptop but its more of a party trick than anything
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>>218818577
this nigga got the oppai phone



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