Why are men in so many countries around the world so obsessed with Ancient Rome?
>>219136429It was peak
>>219136429prefer greeks
It's fascinating
obsessed? how obsessed?
>>219136455Liking history is for chuds
chaos, rome was a system trying to survive in a chaotic world, all the dynasties, all the drama and the assassinations, it was the time before the dark age (don't listen to revisionists) when the it held so much gravity in the west, and it's apex was only about 80 years, that's basically human experience condensed to a single phenomenon, Rome is underrated, imo, the founders loved Rome, modern Americans just are too ignorant
>>219136493It's a chud's world, and you're just living in it.
for me, it's the Medieval Roman Empire
Rome as a civilization lasted for more than a millennium (8th Century BC - 5th Century AD). If you count the Byzantine empire as roman you get about 2000 years of history. During that time it was both a monarchy and republic, it was pagan and it was christian.Modern European civilization is a fusion of germanic and roman elements tied together by christianity.You can really use it as a some ancient reference model for anything.
>>219136429They’re the first true western empire. Nearly everything we know can be attributed to them and the Greeks.
>>219136429nice climate and geograpgy
>>219136584Pagan Rome was peak. Conversely, Constantine turning into a Christian, was the epitome of Christcuckery. All the relevant events occurred in Pagan Rome, Christcuck Rome was shit.
>>219136429It was objectively one of the most important empires in human history and the ancestor of modern Western culture.
>>219136629Paganism killed Rome. Christianity has kept it alive to this day.
>>219136429Oldest truly well-documented empire, spread its culture to the European powers which went on to define the modern world
>>219136629>bro rape and murder are so le based!I wish to unsubscribe from the brown opinion. And the pagan LARPer opinion before any scandinavian wants to chime in.
>>219136429It was prototype Brazil
>>219136429Something about history that speaks "you should be able to do this in modernity".Their engineering, organization, non-abrahamic faith - it is just so free and good enough.
>>219136584>If you count the Byzantine empire as romanWhy wouldn't you? It was the same empire founded by Augustus
>>219136757We are talking about Paganism, not Christcuckery.>Showers le bad
>>219136441Thishttps://youtu.be/KHfKLRHT81Q?si=xRsscEUDpu6DIJXJ
we should rebuild some of those buildings at a different location, like the germans rebuilt the pergamon altar or the ishtar gate. we have a very good understanding of what they looked like.I've been obsessed with Maxentius' Basilica ever since I saw its giant skeleton and the remains of his huge statue
>>219136827Why would you pretend not to know public bathhouses were whorehouses in Rome/Europe?
>>219136899Prostitution was sacred in Pagan Rome. There were temples dedicated to Venus. Very unlike the:>SEX LE BAD, BUT WE ENGAGE IN SECRET DEGENERACY, BECAUSE SEX LE BAD OKAY?Hypocrisy is the cornerstone of ChristcuckeryPlus you were unable to deny Christcukery was behind the black plague.
>>219136885Because that would be antisemitic. Jokes aside, the cost and use case don’t fit in modern capitalistic society.
>>219136429my ancestors :^)
>>219136932>Plus you were unable to deny Christcukery was behind the black plague.the black plague was unironically a major reason why europe became so wealthy and powerful so this isn't a good look for paganism
>>219136976Source: Your anus.
I don't care for RomeI studied Latin for 3 months until I realised I didn't care at all about RomeI prefer Ancient Greece
>>219136429cause it's fucking cool
>>219136429Not obsessed, just a hobby
>>219136761Sometimes when i have fever dreams i let myself think that
>all these gay repliesMegalomanic European leaders always styled themselves as Roman or with clear Roman iconography. Charlemagne, Napoleon, Hitler. A lot of young men today are worthless losers so they develop megalomania. They study Rome to live out their fantasies.
>>219136584I will choose Romes history to justify my hatred of women, science and liberalism.
>>219136429IDK, but it;s funny how Americans claim to be descendant from Romans, because Britannia was occuppied by Romans.....well said Britannia was later ocupied by the very Saxon and Angle tribes they fought, so the modern American is more akin descendant from the Germanic tribes like the Goths, meanwhile, the Mexicans, being in part Spaniard, can be more related to ancient Rome.Americans have nothing to do with Rome or Greece, at least on ancestry, like the Ashkenazi Jews claiming they are the descendant of ancient Israelians, when only by culture they are, racially they are but Slavs and Khazas.
Gladiators.
>>219136429I studied Classics so it is a rather rent free topic to me. I mainly studied history rather than literature though
Marbles
I'm surprised there is no motion to reconstruct all those ruins, it feels like pandering to American tourists and makes me feel gross and embarrassed of being European, literally letting our culture lay in shambles so retarded fat tourists can feel it's more authentic because they never heard about the ship of theseus thought experiment For example this castle was rebuilt a hundred years ago , it's not even that historically significant they just wanted to rebuild it If Meloni wants Rome to be the capital of Europe then rebuild the Colosseum and have hema larpers spar as gladiator from time to time, she should do that or open an onlyfans in my opinion maybe both
why do the latinx larp as roman so much?
>>219137179I've literally never heard that reasoning in my life. It's more of a political thing if anything, since there's a lot of similarities between us and Rome, plus our whole government is based on the republic. I think with Britain specifically it's more generally Greco-Roman civilization being the foundation of European civilization as a whole, so the Romans are their predecessors. Really the only people you'll see here saying they're full-on descendants of the Romans are Italian-Americans.
>>219137304it's latinx projection
>>219137179no one claims to be descended from romans niggaenlightenment thinkers in general saw themselves as inheriting the legacy of classical greece and rome, hence neoclassicismmexico isn't exactly founded on enlightenment ideals
>>219136789germanic revisionism, their historiography made east romans into other
>>219137179As a white latin American who can trace 100% of his genetic ancestry to regions inside the historical imperial core of the Roman Empire there is nothing that makes me cringe more than we wuz Latin brown Latinos, I'd rather let Thailand claim the mantle of Rome than some greasy Indio manlets at least the historic Romans would had enjoyed the ladyboys
>>219136441tsmtrome built nothing except pride and destructionthey're just copying anything they see from the neighboring civilization or the one that they conquered
>>219137339is that not true for any culture
>>219137324Who gives a shit what a Franc things? I care more about the size of my turd than whatever you say, you were just a territory and later overrun by the barbarian Franks.
>>219136429they civilised us
>>219137358No sabes ni leer coya, aberración genética del cerro
it is glorious. and, of course, every man without anormal levels of estrogen will find glorious things cool
>>219137324peru guys must be more heirs of rome than french faggots like you lol
>>219137395you're not romanyou're not medyou're not europeanyou're not italianyou're not portugese
See how latinx have the reading comprehension of shounen fans ? And they claim the mantle of the most literate people of antiquity lool
>>219137293>I'm surprised there is no motion to reconstruct all those ruins, it feels like pandering to American tourists and makes me feel gross and embarrassed of being EuropeanAs far as it goes in British culture that's not the case. There was an entire movement in the 18th century about romanticising ruins, it's not some new American thing. People appreciate partial reconstructions because to them it feels real and genuine, and that's how it's been in our culture for centuries.
>>219137505It's dumb, thinking a reconstruction is worse than letting it lie in shambles is pajeet tier logic, even we have stupid cultural blind spots I guess The absolute worst example is in Greece since it was destroyed in relative modern times and by the historic enemy of your nation, this shit is embarrassing
>>219137428all people and countries will die, I belong on a spiritual kingdom
>>219137584greeks are extinct tho
>>219137385He's a pureblood who does not need to larp as anything, disgusting panchito in france
>>219136429Overrated as fuck if you ask meMercantile city states >>>> martial chud empires
>>219137584it turns into Theseus' shipcan you really say that that's the building the ancients constructed if you slap a bunch of new construction materials on top?
>>219137385Why are you even talking to me? Shouldnt you be sucking BBC? that's what French do, congratulations on your positive birthate, of niggers/
>>219137979Isn't the point of Theseus ship an argument pro reconstruction ? As long as it faithful to the original the material not being the old doesn't matter because eventually even the ruins will need to get replaced by newer rocks which makes this even more absurd eventually Rome will be filled with ruined buildings that are not even fucking oldBesides speaking for Roman ruins there is absolutely no chance in hell the Romans would be ok with people admiring ruins instead of rebuilding them
>>219138130it's tricky, if you just build a 1:1 replica somewhere else, can you claim it is the real deal because you used some of the original bricks?this also would mean that just doing routine maintenance on stuff would automatically disqualify them, and there's plenty of ancient buildings that had to have attachments or refurbishments to stop them from collapsing and we don't mindwhat about things like the parthenon being taken over by the church, modified, some of its interior reshuffled or paintings added... can you claim that that's the original parthenon as the romans imagined it?or the hagia sophia? is it still a church even after it was taken over but kept on operation by the muslims?
>>219136789Significant differences.They didn't even speak latin
>>219136429because you see their legacy everywhere in the modern world
>be me>be a greek>get my shit kicked in by the fucking turks for 4 centuries and a half>fucking die fighting them for a few years as an old man, then get sent home wounded to be shanked on a cross or burned alive when they take over Athens again>meanwhile there's some other greeks out in Italy making money off of the turk trade routes with their roman overlords that dont give two fucks about the rest
>>219138437What does that have to do with anything? Roman doesn't mean Latin-speaker.
>>219136429The one you learn about it the more you're impressed by it
>>219136429It's one of the few cities in the world where you can observe the foundations of civilisation on one end and the fruits of it on the other. It's even more incredible when you travel the north and the south of the whole country and see the distinct works of the renaissance versus the ancient Greek's trials and errors with architecture, different monetary systems, etc. They're still finding leftovers buried in the med sea. I mean look at this, they're finding stuff underwater and can't afford a Louvre tier situation againhttps://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/exceptional-discovery-in-the-ionian-sea-newly-revealed-roman-shipwreck-found-off-gallipoli-italyHistory is precious bros
>>219136757>bro rape and murder are so le based!Yes.
>>219136429>countries around the worldonly new world mlecchas with no significant history or culcha to call their own, as can be seen from the majortiy of flags itt LMAO
>>219136429cause it tastes gooddo i see an indian fag shitting on others "new" cultures
because it was peak comfy
I'm not
>>219143444>from korea>low Tyou are not a man anon </3
I wish we would bring back public baths.
>>219143310daily reminder that we raped alexander so hard that his entire invincivble army got fractured by treasonous pussy bitches not wanting to go further than the beas and face the real monsters of the mainland bharat and then mleccha died midway retreating with a proplapsed asshole and couldnt even make it back to rome or whereever that uppity subhuman was bornand then thousands of years later we had anglo rapebabies born from roman rape of the swamp goblins of native briton come to india and go a little history trannyrevisonism about how the battle where alxeander was raped by some local indian king was actually of equal footing, bla bla bla, we wuz aryans saaaar etc etc lmaomleccha madarchod sala
when the king speaks the pajeet shuts up
>>219136870what movie?
>>219136429Rome was the Wakanda for Timmies.
Insider here. In 2030, the European Union will receive an updated brand. The union will now be called Rome XXX (Rome 30 in Arabic), and the current President of the European Commission will instead be called the God Emperor Ursula von der Leyen. The flag will receive an update, with a red ball representing Mars (possibly also a sick ass wolf howling). The European Space Agency will be called the Roman Astral Legion. The parliament building will start hosting combat sports tournaments once a month. The Eurovision song contest will shift toward classic Roman theatre mixed with gladiator combat, and it will be more like pro wrestling with music. It will be called Thunderdome. Member states will be called imperial provinces, and Macedonia will be big thanks to its high quality olive oil. Dutch will be replaced with Latin. Europe will have lions again
>>219136505>it was the time before the dark age (don't listen to revisionists)There was a "dark age" of collapse in weatern Europe but it lasted only a couple of centuries at most. By the year 800 Europe already had vibrant courts and towns again
>>219137293We dont really know how they looked like, rebuilding them would be vandalism. You'd destroy something genuine to build a big pile of mcmansion shit over it. Denounce the talmud.
>>219145181>dutch will be replaced with latin Devilish
>>219145418Unfortunately it will gradually fuse with German and French, and it will start sounding like Dutch again
