>Slavs betray the Empire>Integrated economy of central Europea turns into shit by new trade barriers>They all fall prey to larger states like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union>Have to endure communism for 45 yearsWas it worth it slavoids?
No you don't understand, Slavs getting Fiume made them rich and prosperous.
>>219324277You forgot:>all end up as slave micro states anyway
>>219324277slavs under austria hungary cleaned cow shit, while under communism they conquered space, i think the reason is pretty logical
>>219324544Here a photo of a famous slavic cow shit cleaner called field marshal Svetozar Boroević von Bojna.
>>219324544Not South Slavs though lmao
>>219324659it ignores the reality of life for the working class aka the 99% of the population who lived poorly and were institutionally disenfranchised with no hopes of social mobility or achieving better livelihood
Balkanoids live vicariously through these guys
>>219324804At those times the vast majority of the people Germanic, Magyar, Romanian or Slav were poor working class. The higher ups of the Empire might have had a bias or preference for Austrians, but Slavs, especially Czechs, were gaining a lot of ground in the Empire improving their lives considerably.
>>219324277austria was the 2nd jewish empire after plc
>>219324868its just a proof that an alternative to the western capitalist system that they push so hard and try to impose on us to keep us as a periphery to be exploited by their imperial core is able to not just exist, but surpass them entirely
>>219324896>were gaining a lot of ground in the Empire improving their lives considerably.by a non existent amount compared to the rapid industrialization, technological progress, free healthcare, free housing and free education they had achieved after the 1945 period
>>219324932>but surpass them entirelyWhich is why the Soviet Union is the world's superpower today?>inb4 chinaMoving the goalpost aside, I like China, but they were poorer than Africa under Maoism. It's only because they stepped away from an ideological revolutionary mindset into strict technocratic government under Deng and Jiang that they are what they are today.China is proof that public policy should be left to highly educated high IQ professionals and not publicly elected retards, whether members of parliament or union leaders. If they had kickstarted Deng's reforms back in the 1950s they'd be much farther ahead today.
>>219325147Im 100% sure that their lives would have improved faster and better after 1945 if they adopted a social market economy like Western Germany. Communism with a command economy always leads to stagnation and an underdeveloped service sector.
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>>219325230dont see how that is an argument for capitalism, if anything it shows that capitalism left unchecked just leads to 50 year mortgages for a house and non existant job security like outsourcing, inportation of cheap labor and stagnant salaries, the western european welfare state to this day traces its roots from the immense pressure of the communist parties (like in italy and france who were often tied in winning parliamentary elections) who looked to an example of the system of the east who provided a far better way to run a society>>219325239capitalism is just a command economy that is decided by shareholders to maximize their profit
>>219325466Western Social Democracy is a fundamentally different ideology to Marxism with completely different roots.Social Democracy was spearheaded by Lasalle, not by Marx & Engels. Marx was so pissed that most German socialists preferred Lasalle over him that he wrote the Critique of the Gotha Programme to seethe about how Social Democracy would never lead to anything. Just look at Western Europe vs Eastern Europe to see how it played out.Marx also hated Proudhon's mutualist anarchism, because anything that wasn't a totalitarian shithole made Marx angry.It's hilarious that Marxism has been such a catastrophic failure worldwide that Marxists have to rely on the successes of the ideologies that Marx criticized to try to prop up the image of Communism.>who looked to an example of the system of the east who provided a far better way to run a societyThe horrors of the early soviet union tanked the popularity of the KPD in Germany and shifted a lot of their support base towards the NSDAP. Nobody in Western Europe looked at the Soviets as a model, except for Marxists themselves who were massively discredited when Kruschev revealed the extent of Stalinist insanity.
>>219324277>Slavs betray the Empire?Nobody inside the Empire betrayed it, Slavs or non-SlavsEven Serbs in Bosnia and Croatia were actually loyal for the most part, not like it mattered since they were treated as an enemy even before the Black hand.It was the empire itself that played favorites and treated some of its subjects like shit. >Integrated economy of central Europea turns into shit by new trade barriersSo "integrated" Bohemia and Ukranian Galicia were completely different planets.Just because some parts of A-H were rich and had pretty building doesn't mean anything.
>>219325602this is crazy historic revisionism lmao, do they even teach about the 1968 protests in western schools or its scraped off entirely because it doesnt fit the narrative
