These two countries are similar. They should join into one.
*blocks your path*
>>219336274*ruins your co prosperity*
>>219336125then why don't you join with Chile?
>>219336125That's illegal plus Bavaria should join Austria
>>219336125Unironically why shouldn't they? What's stopping them? There is nothing unique about Austria compared to Germany. And yes I know about Hitler being the leader when the 1938 annexation happened. But why can't it happen now?
>>219336896European passive aggressive bitchiness that says all Euro countries must be as small and weak as possible and we must engage in feminine cold wars to prevent one single country to stand out above the rest to avoid regional destabilization wouldn't allow it. This is why we need more brother wars.
>>219336896And to add I know about Austria's history as a monarchy. I know how powerful they used to be. But since the end of WW1, they have become 'Germany minor'. Why does Austria still exist today?
>>219336989Bad if true, we definitely need 'Austria' off the map at least, Vienna in a shared government with Berlin. The current reality is nonsensical
>>219336125You're more likely to see Denmark and the Netherlands merge with Germany in the next 30 years than Austria.
Germany's lack of mountain range triggers my tismAustria is irrelevant as fuck nowadays, can we please let them be annexed?
>>219336896>What's stopping them?A treaty you guys forced Germany to sign
>>219337307The treaty that restored 'Austria' was foolish and naive. By the end of this century Germany and Austria will be one country. There will be no more 'Austria'. Mark my words
>>219337435Why stop there? Pic related with a Swiss style confederation government is the natural conclusion to the Germanic question.
>>219336896It pushes Germany out of its shared weight class with Britain, France and Italy, leaves Czechia totally enveloped, puts central Bratislava three kilometres from the border of a state that is twenty times larger, rather than two, and leaves Hungary and Slovenia in a precarious position as well.
>>219337580Fuck em
>>219337539This would be kino, but too good for this world so God won't allow itAlso>The children yearn for the return of the HRE
>>219336125we also need Slovenia, in terms of a tiny tiny sliver of Mediterranean coast
>>219338116I guess aunited Germanic people is just too pure for this retarded and jealous world.>The children yearn for the return of the HRESomeday.
>>219336896you did goofballyou did
>>219336896>What's stopping them?You.
>>219336125northern italy, western slovenia, eastern swizterland, and alsace should be in there as well
>>219337435but i like austria :(
>>219338605You also like boys
>>219336896Austria wanted to join Germany after ww1 but it was literally your country that stopped it from happening. Which was one of the reasons for Hitler's rise btw.Now, joining us would be very foolish because they'd just be paying billions in holocaust reparations.
>>219339111The yoingest holocaust survivors are in their 80's, you're almost done anyway.
>>219339195>you're almost done anywayhuhthere's an entire country filled with them
>>219339195you have no idea what Jews are, do you?There's still a quarter million "holocaust survivors" claimed to be alive right now:https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-783023and once the last person on that list "dies" at a reported 150 years of age, the next 5 generations of holocaust survivors will have come of age and demand gibs from us:https://www.jewishboston.com/read/remembering-the-holocaust-a-new-generation-of-survivors-comes-of-age/
>>219339290>>219339297>In early 2026, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu announced a 10-year plan to reduce Israel's dependence on U.S. military aid, aiming to decrease the $3.8 billion annual assistance to zero. Citing Israel’s "come of age" economy and a need for strategic independence, Netanyahu plans to invest heavily in domestic weapons production. They're preparing for change, be ready.
>>219339111Do modern Austrians even want to join Germany anymore? Have there been done any polls with this hypothetical scenario
>>219339445they can barely contain their sheer lust at the mere thought of doing so
>>219336125Why chuds focus so much in Germany? You didn't see people here asking why France doesn't annex Belgium & Western Switzerland, or people asking why Britain doesn't anex Ireland; It's always Germany
>>219340703They think if nazi germany was still around theyd have sex
>>219336125ah yes, because east germany getting eaten by west germany went so well.
>>219340764Completely different, austria doesnt have an inefficient nationalized economy ripe for plundering
>>219340703the turning point of history, it's like Rome vs Hannibal, a key point to an alternative history
>>219340703for real man.
>>219340730that is literally true tho
>>219336319>Expansionist Military Power:/>Expansionist Military Power, Japan(|:^0
>>219340883No, the majority of people who worship nazis are brown and would have a life no better than now, or even worse, while the few euros or germans who worship nazis are so mentally ill theyd have been worked to death for the good of germany
>>219341017You're brown.
>>219336274Actually, it’s the russians that insisted that the reanschluss should be legally prohibited before they agreed to withdraw from Austria
>>219341069Im not, and even if i was, my statement would still be true
>>219341069he's not wrong thought. All the people here wishing the nazis won so there isnt gay characters in the videogames they play really have no fucking idea what their wish would mean for them.
>>219341108I once had to explain to some filipino chud that nazis wouldnt approve of hentai. He was surprised
>>219341091You are and your brownness negates all of your opinions.>>219341108>implyingI want bigger Germany, that's it.
>>219341165Why do you want a bigger germany? Also, its not opinions, its reality of what happened to non-germans, and the mentally ill.
>>219336125trve
>>219341165Why is it always racial mutts like filipinos, latrinos and amerifats that are so obsessed with Nazis? You realise you people aren't Aryan
>>219341193Germans shouldn't be seperated, simple as.>the majority of people who worship nazis are brown and would have a life no better than nowUntrue, international kikery's neoliberalism and communism's war with said neoliberalism have let to death, destruction, displacement and poverty among large swathes of the brown world and the effects are still ongoing.
>>219341255It took germans a thousand years to want unity, and the austrians/swiss/luxemburgers today simply dont want it. Ive you wanna get technical, half of actual germans dont want it (bavarians, easterners). I get liking cool maps, but theres a reality to this. Ignoring it makes you ignorant of who germans actually are.>War stuffYou do know nazis thought war was great, right? Or are you under the delusion that all they wanted was peace and love?
>>219341310>the austrians/swiss/luxemburgers today Irrelevant when discussing a post German victory world of the 1940's.>You do know nazis thought war was great, right? Or are you under the delusion that all they wanted was peace and love?Irrelevant, the nazis were a means to an end and lacked any real ability to project power outside Europe.
>>219341336We were discussing your desire to have all germans in current day live in one country i thought. If you want alt history go to /his/>War stuffI dont even see your point here? They liked war and thought if it as great. Are you able to admit that?
>>219341255When you say germans, what do you mean?If you mean ethnicity, its one of the most spread out diasporas in the world (even hundreds of years ago it was like this), you could even probably find a german town in whatever state you live in.The french have always been more about their homeland than the germans are, you're projecting your fantasy on people who dont share it.
>>219336125Add western poland too.
>>219341378We were discussing a unified Germany. Full stop.>War stuffYou're the only one directing us back to this.>I dont even see your point here? They liked war and thought if it as great. Are you able to admit that?Hitler wanted the same thing Bismarck wanted, a European land empire of unified Germans. That's it.
>>219341485You are being extremely dishonest, or ignorant. You started with "i just want a bigger germany", now you moved on to ideas of unification and are defending hitler, after having the modern situation told to you.If you want a little lesson, Bismarck was never obsessed with german unity, he was obsessed with prussian strength. In the south hes still not very popular due to this. Tying the small german states to prussia reached this goal, and it made the nationalists happy as a nice side effect. You are also avoiding the eugenic ideas of the nazis, possibly because youd be a victim of them.
We need fewer countries
>>219341605>You started with "i just want a bigger germany", now you moved on to ideas of unificationThey aren't mutually exclusive, how do you think Germany gets bigger?>and are defending hitlerNo, I stated Hitler and nazism were a means to an end.>after having the modern situation told to you.Which means nothing as it's purely your own opinion, you aren't that important.>If you want a little lesson, Bismarck was never obsessed with german unity, he was obsessed with prussian strength. In the south hes still not very popular due to this. Tying the small german states to prussia reached this goal, and it made the nationalists happy as a nice side effect.He couldn't have unified entirely as Austrian influence was too strong hence why he settled for Kleindeutschland, he absolutely wanted a German land empire in Europe. Until post ww1 integrating Austria was unfeasible.>You are also avoiding the eugenic ideas of the nazisI'm not avoiding them at all, I already stated that I didn't care.>possibly because youd be a victim of them.I didn't exist in the 1930's, if I did it would be on the other side of the Atlantic and not as a jew or brown. The same, I feel, can't be said about you.
>>219341829>Mutually exclusiveYour motivations for this have been revealed as some chud larp, no further talk is needed. >HitlerYes you stated one thing, and ignored everything else>Modern situationVery few people in austria, much less switzerland or luxembourg/Liechtenstein want to be germans. This is not my opinion, this is their societies opinion. Maybe you should consider the value of your own opinion. >BismarckHe hated catholics, look up Kulturkampf. On top of that, he was aware destroying austria was bad for the european order. A greater german solution was never something he considered. >Last 2 thingsNothing meaningful to say there
>>219341894>I declared myself the winner and you the loser heheheOk champ, I can see where this is going.
>>219341918You are free to keep talking, ill keep responding.
>>219341310>I get liking cool maps, but theres a reality to this.Screw popular sovereignty, you must submit to New Worlder border crusaders' whims, that is, a single German bundestate, with Vienna as its capital and the Hohenstaufen put in charge
>>219341962Latinx schizo, i kneel
>>219341947Ok>Your motivations for this have been revealed as some chud larp, no further talk is neededNon arguement, you just decided your view was correct and declared yourself the winner.>Yes you stated one thing, and ignored everything elseYou have the entire thread in front of you, ferl free to copy and paste what you think I ignored.>This is not my opinion, this is their societies opinionNo, that's your opinion. I'm waiting for you to link some worthless DW poll of 1,017 people as proof. Without a public plebiscite there isn't any proof and since integration is constitutionally forbidden that won't happen.>He hated catholics, look up Kulturkampf. On top of that, he was aware destroying austria was bad for the european order. A greater german solution was never something he considered.And yet he specifically unified Germans under Prussian rule. Not Poles, not Danes, not Swedes, just areas that were part of the former HRE.>Nothing meaningful to say thereThen stop asking questions you don't want the answers to, pretty simple.
>>219342054>Not an argumentWell, i believe i figured out your motivations for this. Its not an argument ofc, but it tells me a lot>IgnoringYou have waved away the nazis as a "means to an end", which is ignoring their flaws>Opinion>Just dont give me a pollLol. But also, as opposed to you, i have talked to swiss and austrian people, theyre happy not being german. On top of that, their living standards outrank ours. The idealistic motivations you ascribe to them dont exist. >HRE areasGerman nationalism was co-opted to strengthen prussia. This had little to do with his desire for a german nation state. If the swedes were happy to be prussian, he wouldve taken them too. You have an entirely romanticised idea of german history
>>219342013Rise, I thank you for restoring my faith in humanity and my hope for a better future under gentle but steady pangerman hands
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>>219336125>>219336274Realistically, nothing is actually stopping them from peacefully uniting. Who is going to stop them? The UK and France? kek. They won't start a war over that. They dont have the stomach for a real war against somebody that isn't just a band of ragheads hiding in caves. The USA? Our government barely gives a shit about Europe nowadays. We won't stop them.Russia has no power to stop it and would probably not even give a shit.
>>219336125the Real question you should be asking is WHY should they unite?Only because they are culturally close and speak the same language, why they cannot be two different countries?Austria has a different history and geography, that would also look terrible on a map
>>219343739Because it was cool when Hitler did it.
>>219337539You forgot England and Iceland
>>219343367Nowadays, yes no one would really give a shit if Germany and Austria voted for it. I doubt it'll happen however, at this point Austrians seem very much content with their independence
>>219336896There is no reason for Austria to join Germany. They are better off as their own country.
>>219336125Austria views itself as superior to Germany, historical reasons. Germany was usually militarist Prussia while Austria wuz the kangs. Bavarians are an overlap and actually close to Austria. A South German state would have made sense.