We don't eat pork, and we also don't give a fuck about you eating pork. It's not like garlic with vampires type of situation by all means eat what you will we just won't eat it with you.Our religion says dogs should not be kept inside houses as they are unclean(meaning if you are muslim you can have them but keep them outside or somewhere designated), none of us give a fuck about you keeping a dog.A lot of us are hawkish on alcohol and that's because drunk people become nuisances. But we wouldn't stop you from doing it we just don't like when you get piss drunk in public.
What about Pan-Arabism?
>It's not like garlic with vampires type of situationFalse, when I throw slices of ham on you you turn into flames
>>219336317Just don’t do it.
>>219336317'Explode' was a missed opportunity
>>219336300Literally created by christian arabs importing nationalism from Europe
>>219336317>Jews/Muslims when you sneak bacon into their food
>>219336300reactionary bullshit that only brought calamitylook at the countries that fell for it like iraq egypt iranthen those that didnt morocco saudi jordan
>>219336235Why would God create the pig if he doesn't want us to eat it?
>>219336235Thoughts on Jews?
>>219336971Literally egypsies with every single leader we've had. I hear people reminiscing about Mubarak's times every time someone brings up politics but back then everyone wanted to overthrow him for being muh corrupt. Saved.
>>219337113i see egypt as kinda like the brazil of the middle eastnot the worst place but so utterly hopeless that you can only sigh at it and hard to have hope of things actually improving is there the perpetual meme about egypt being the country of the future every decade like there is in brazil?
>>219336971>reactionaryQuite the opposite, no?
>>219337066Cool culture. Impressive they've managed to keep an identity intact over millennia and basically everywhere on Earth. Not a fan of the genocides/racism they do though.
>>219336971Yes iran famously fell for the pan-arabism meme.
>>219337239will brasil be superpower in 2040 2050 or 2060i think the 2030 one isnt shaping up so well
>>219337295I was asking him. Since he's talking about misconceptions about his religion
The fact that he never answered tells me everything I already knew. Fuck Islam
>>219336235>we also don't give a fuck about you eating porkWhy do you specifically seek out cooking videos then with pork to spam your HARAM asdfghrghl HARAM in the comments?
>>219337066People of the book, religiouslyI won't say personally since i'm get 3 day'd
>>219337747It's quirky shit like mexicans with their chancla joke they keep spamming
>>219337597Nigga i was busy
>We don't eat porkRetarded superstition.>dogs should not be kept inside houses as they are uncleanRetarded superstition.You're a primitive.
how are some people fine living without eating meat just because your parents and people near you said you shouldn't
>>219338465Bro you think God got nailed to a stick.
>>219338528We're frugivores that only recently became omnivores which is why vegans/vegetarians and meat restricting diets like kosher/halal exist because our subconsciouses aren't quite evolved for it.
>>219338403So you definitely give a fuck then
>>219338528I ate pork before
>>219338544I'm not religious. Have you ever once thought about why you believe the things you do, or is your brain just on autopilot?
>>219338544Firstoids don't believe in godChristianity is more of a latinx thing
>>219336235If Christianity banned alcohol, the camp of degenerate revelers dwelling within civilized countries would be easier to identify and get rid of.We spend an insane amount of money every year overpaying police to respond to situations involving an inebriated retard.
Are you aware that there will be no religion in the far future? How do you cope with this?
>>219338712Why don't we make our own religion based on things that could be true?
>>219336235if you actually believed any of this seriously you would want imposed universally you are a very confused man
>>219338764oh my science why hasn't anyone done that before
>>219338624Should result in loss of Israeli citizenship desu.
>>219338764Given each time period they were created in that's what all religions are.>>219338712Spirituality is a fundamental aspect of the human experience. Even if materialism is true and there's no beyond practicing it is still going to occur as long as there's people.
>>219336235Dude if you're not planning on eating it then share some pork with meI have nothing to go along with my rakı right now
>>219338566If by "recently" you mean within the past 2,500,000 years, sure. Our species is just one in a LONG line of hominims that eat meat as a significant part of our diet. You have to go back 3 million years to find the first opportunistic scavenger hominims.
>>219337066I don't think Muslims would care as much, if it wasn't for Israel. Treated yalls better than Christians have historically, didn't they?I personally like western jews, non-zionists, and recently I've learned of hasidics.
We shias eat pork tho
>>219336971Gem
>>219336235Then why do your moroccan colleagues have meltys when chef sneaks pork into their food
>>219336235if you don't care about me eating pork, but did you kill my mom in the march 11 2004 terrorist attacks on Spain?
>>219339354Azizam wouldn't that be cannibalism
>>219339649mi name inigo montoya you kill my father preper to die
>>219339021ABIIISIKULAR SIKULAR ABIIIISIK ARABI SARABIPLAESE BRO I DRINK ALCOHOL>>219338712There will be a day when humans are no more yes
>>219340015Can you say that again but in English
>>219340053Did you know in famouse turkish proverbic sarabi sik arabiWhich means drink your alcohol(sarabi) and fuck the arabsarabi is an Arab loanwordFunny isnt itDid you know turkish doesnt have a word for honor, only an arab loanword şeref
protestants and muslims think i worship Mary, the mother of God, but i don’t
>>219338712There will be a lot more religion in the future as firsties get replaced by africans and jeets
>>219336235Honestly all of this besides the pork part seems perfectly reasonable and not very different from some of the opinions expressed by le based and redpilled chuds on this same website.I can only assume the pork stuff is based on some archaic beliefs related to food poisoning and foodborne illness. Pork can carry some nasty bacteria if it’s not treated or cooked properly.
>>219341037No you just pray to her despite being told by god himself there is only one mediator who is Jesus not Jesus and his whore mom and 30000 “saints” canonized centuries later
>>219336235>A lot of us are hawkish on alcohol and that's because drunk people become nuisances.Nobody cares about the other shit, this is what makes westoids and eastoids despise arabs. Idk why this is so hard for y'all to grasp
>>219336235Have you ever tried Jamón serrano or coppa?
>>219341328>Pork can carry some nasty bacteria if it’s not treated or cooked properly.Same with any meat. I favour the interpretation that the Jews were trying to separate themselves from the Canaanites who were very fond of pork and pigs scavenge garbage which didn't impart the nicest impression.
>>219341339but i only pray to God (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) and just ask Mary and the other saints for intercession thoughbeit
>>219337597the fact you seethed this hard that he didnt reply as fast as you wanted reminds me how annoying you motherfuckers are holy shit
>>219336235I'm about to go on a date with an Iranian woman Any tips?
>>219336235>no guys, my abominable cult is wholesome
>>219338656Nope, Church is doing pretty well here.
>>219341037If you're a Catholic you definitely pray to Mary and the """saints""" which is paganism and heresy.
>>219336235>and we also don't give a fuck about you eating porkmuzrats are constantly seething about pork. At least the ones that live in the west.
>>219337066>>219338373>People of the bookAh, so the worst of all creatures according to the quran (98:6).Those who must be belittled, subjugated into religious apartheid/third class citizenship and humiliated (or executed if we refuse).
>>219341037Muslims are told so because mohammed got the Trinity wrong in chapter 5, saying it's islamic allah, islamic Jesus parody (isa), and Mary. Which is hilariously wrong.
>>219336235Islam should be more LGBT friendly and give women freedom
>>219341956In their own countries as well, plenty of people getting harassed/attacked for eating in public in the month of binge eating for satan
>>219341986muslims in the West come in two forms:>gay jihadi supporters>openly gay jihadi supporters
>>219341965Technically if you really want to quote the Quran. A lot of it is referring to political reasons. I believe this verse is after Muhammad’s alliances and relations with the Jews and with the Christian Romans didn’t work out. If you read the constitution of Medina and Surah Baqarah. When Muhammad just got to Medina. It’s actually pretty “liberal”There’s a lot of the Quran that says to “follow the Torah and Gospel”
>>219342016why are right wingers so fucking unbearable unfunnyoh my fucking GOD dude
>>219341734Based prot
>>219341734>just ask Mary and the other saints for intercession thoughbeitWhat is reasoning behind this catholicanon?
>>219342079we simply believe that the Saints (souls who have gone to heaven) are physically and spiritually closer to God, and therefore if they pray for us then our prayers may have a greater effectiveness
>>219341984do they really LMAO
>>219342190>source: marys diseased pussy
>>219342030Yes, I know about the meccan-medinan split and how it abrogates the peaceful verses with the violent ones and gives muslims the blueprint:>be peaceful when few in number and subvert>enslave and slay when in large numbersSuch as 9:5 and 9:29-31 abrogated 100-200 peaceful verses such as 2:256.>Follows the Torah and the GospelNow you've discovered the islamic dilemma: invalidated by the very books it simultaneously accuses of corruption and tells you to follow.Also, the quran/momo didn't even know what the gospel was, he got confused most likely by one of the syriac gospel harmonies.>Written after Christian Roman alliancesNever happened, momo was always paranoid about the Romans and after he died the subhuman khalid bin walid invaded Christian lands, began murdering, raping, massacring Christians and when confronted by General Vahan said, "we have come to drink Roman (Christian) blood as we heard it's the sweetest" - Yarmuk 636.
>>219338627> Have you ever once thought about whyHave you? Dogs like every other animal are literally unclean, they're not different than pigs which most people, religious or not, would think of as dirty, they are work animals meant to live outside, nothing superstitious about that. The ban on pigs was inherited from Judaism, the original reason being that it was a "foreign" animal to them, and therefore not safe to consume, it's no different than passing on trying a foreign cuisine out of fear it'd upset your stomach, nothing superstitious about it.
>>219342196You don't really need more than 5:71-75, 5:116 to show islam is incredibly false.
>>219339979Why did you call me pig bro man what the fuck
Address the men of Al-Zutt
>>219342204If I had to choose between "2 billion" muslims and a dog, I'd choose a dog.
>>219342190Same thing our sufis believe. I think Islamic salafist/wahhabist movement is closer to the protestant movement in that regard.>>219342196With due respect anon, learn your church history, especially regarding the formalisation and enforcement of the nicaean trinity, and the first council of constantinople.That qur'anic verse isn't about the trinity, but there are others.
>>219338627>>219342204>Have you ever once thought about why you believeDogs kept on barking at night when momo would meet with his boyfriend dihya al kalbi/jibril for a zuttening so they had to go
lmao
>>219342253>I think Islamic salafist/wahhabist movement is closer to the protestant movement in that regard.i remember making this observation when simply talking about the shia focus on Tatbir, and the associated themes of prayer/worship through suffering/penance, while wahabbists/sunnis seem more focused on prayer/faith fundamentals alone
>>219342253>With due respect anon, learn your church history, especially regarding the formalisation and enforcement of the nicaean trinity, and the first council of constantinople.Yes, any Christian who studied even a bit knows the trinity was around in the Christian communities already in the hundred years after the Crucifixion.I have no idea why muslims obsess with "muh 3 centuries!" except for needing to find some way to explain why Christianity denies islam
>>219342243That meme group has even less followers than therians
>>219342278Don't respond to me, i told you this before, you're a repulsive person, with moral rot and don't exemplify any qualities a christian should have. Let me talk to them instead.
>>219342302>runs awayAlso, hilarious you accuse me of that when I was calmly responding people while your fellow muslims were being insulting and provocative, in particular the egyptian muslim brotherhood fan girl living in the US
>>219337208But brazil has improved throgout the decades, drasticly compared to every half century before, the only seemingly hospeless topic is the crime situation which is relatively new in its current form
>>219336235why do Muslims always cause problems whenever they're not the majority?Doesn't matter if the country is atheist, Hindu, Buddhist or Christian
>>219342204My dog is trained to wipe his paws off before coming inside and gets bathed monthly (or when he smells). This whole "unclean" argument is bullshit because Islam says they are RITUALISTICALLY IMPURE (arbitrary) not that they harbor germs.
>>219342302Lmao you got btfo
>>219336235Cool taqqiyya bro
>>219342423lol, São Paulo was much better half a century ago, so was Rio. Safer and cleaner.
>>219342428I wouldn't let a human who bathes monthly into my house. Arbitrariness is by design to avoid argumentation (but my dog is quiet, but my dog is clean, etc), it's easier to say God wills it.
>>219342493And how would it be without the Italian and German imports?
>>219342523Dogs aren't humans. They only are capable of sweating through their paws and panting. Some dogs have oily fur (labs) but most breeds don't. That means you manage drool/clean their paws and bathe them once in a whole. Hell, most people never bathe their cats and you can't tell me that a cat licking itself all over is the same thing as being clean.
>>219342455He didn't say anything, The council of nicaea (325 AD) was sat down to formalise the relationship of Jesus with the Father, because there was legitimate church friction over this; divine or subordinate. With the rise of several heretical movements like Arianism, people exemplifying Mary as the Queen of heaven and Jesus as the son. Church fathers comparing and drawing parallels with Paganism like the relationship of Jesus and God, with Jupiter and his Son.A clear case of tension between the og writers, with Paul's subordination christology, and John's incarnation christology. Alongside Tertullian pushing for subordination christology (which disengious people claim was the trinity)Meanwhile the Holy ghost wasn't part of this movement, no one before had included him in equal terms as 3 persons of one essence. His inclusion as equal, came at the council of constantinople, over half a century later at like 400 AD
Its worse when you are a Jew. Christians think we are their religion but without Jesus
>>219342772An honest reading of the Bible, wouldn't have naturally concluded that, they were ambiguous scriptures.>"But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father" - Mark 13:33>"If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I. 29 - John 14:28>"Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?" 18 And Jesus said to him, "Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone." 19 - Mark 10:18>"I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge, and my judgment is just, because I seek not my own will but the will of him who sent me." 31 - John 5:30>"This is eternal life: that they know You, the only true God, and Jesus whom You have sent." - John 17:3So they sneaked in a statement in the later Roman Catholic version, to enforce the Nicaean Trinity.>First Epistle of John 5:7 (KJV-style):"for there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."Which was a clear fabrication, and had to be removed in Modern Bibles.>The Council of Nicaea (325 CE) was the first ecumenical council of the Christian Church, convened by Emperor Constantine the Great in the city of Nicaea (now İznik, Turkey). It was a foundational event in defining Christian orthodoxy, particularly concerning the divinity of Christ and the nature of the Trinity.To enforce this Trinity, and remove hersey they committed state wide opression, book burning, exiling bishops, massacres, etc.
>>219342789Muslims are so retarded they will quote mine a book they don't believe in to disprove something that their own holy book plainly gets wrong. You are the dumbest of the Abrahamics.
>>219342785You should be thankful. Everyone would hate you if they knew what you actually believed.
>>219342789The clear fact was there was disagreement even among churches over what the trinity was. There were plenty of less documented groups with widely different interpretations. Hell you have diametrically opposite groups right now. Jehvohs witnesses, Unitarians, etc. churches that critique the mainstream method.The Quran is talking about all this, every trinity every one given divinity in Christendom.This isn't a formal criticism of the trinity as a framework to describe plurality of God (though I disagree with it) but yall should read some stuff.
>>219342823My point isn't to disprove your book to prop up mine. Just to put in some perspective.
>>219336235ok but the single most important criterion is how will muslims react when they are the majority in countries like France or Germany? will they inaugurate sharia law?, what is even sharia law? will they force people to convert to their religion? is this just some right wing nutjob conspiracy theory?
>>219342838People already hate Jews. Thing about Judaism is that rabbis are specialists in doing mental gymnastics while being autistically literal for most stuff. So there are videos of rabbis saying stuff like "we will rape and murder all christians when the Messiah comes in" and chuds think this is like an underground dogma of Judaism. No, its just a schizo rabbi that despise Christians headcanon.In fact, these guys usually dont give a flying fuck about goyim so thats why they even say stuff like that in english while being filmed.Basically all the "demonic" passages of the Talmud are that btw. I mean a lot are literally made up but the ones like "goyim are animals" arent actual commandments, its recorded arguments of rabbis arguing with other rabbis.
>>219342857I'm an Atheist. Your religion implies that Qurashi Arabic pre-dates the created universe. A universe that is billions of years old, with millions of years of domination by extinct species that predate humans. Humans who existed on continents unknown to this book, and thus were damned by default.
>>219342823Also, i atleast believe the gospels have some truth, but corrupted, and also misinterpreted by priests. Cheers.
>>219342869islam bros please answer. Also how do Christian get treated in MENA countries?
>>219342917The Quran was recited in Arabic, because it was the language understood by Muhammad. What a weird thing to say to me.>Humans who existed on continents unknown to this book, and thus were damned by default.Shallow understanding of..well any Abrahamic faith desu.
>>219336235>We don't eat pork, and we also don't give a fuck about you eating pork. It's not like garlic with vampires type of situation by all means eat what you will we just won't eat it with you.so how come if anti muslim groups here want to stop a new mosque from being built, they bury a pig head on the location and muslims suddenly want to find a new location? that's a little more caring about pork than just not eating it, that's obsessive anti porkalso there have been stories about brownies refusing to handle pork products when they work in the supermarket
>>219342951Idk, but I like you mexicano anon. Come, and I'll treat you to kahwah.
>>219342951We kill them for fun
>>219343102That i cannot get behind. Do whatever you want to goytheists, but that goes way too far.
>>219342016>even muzzies are getting pozzed in the Westgrim>>219342789>my sky daddy fanfic is better than your sky daddy fanfic because your book says so!>>219342951Precisely as they deserve.
>>219336235>and we also don't give a fuck about you eating pork.You definitely do otherwise you wouldnt try to lecture us on why you dont eat unprompted. It's us who dont give a fuck about what you think
>>219342772>>219342789>the contortions muslims have to get in for some bizarre: "Christianity has no Scriptural basis in the New Testament" instead of "I reject them">always goes full amnesia of the previous times shown to be wrong>even cites passages that are insane bc the commentary makes it clear>refuses to read commentary even though that is bread and butter in islam >copy-pastes bad history from dawah sites >by xer own logic the quran is false because uthman burned all the other versions and asked some dude to pick the right one>always refuses to engage Christianity but some imaginary religion based on cutting out almost the entirety of the Bible except for some verses, equivalent to forcing a muslim to throw out hadith, tafsir, quran and only use two surahs The intellectual laziness of the mu2min is staggeringly unsurprising.
>>219344708If they werent retards they wouldnt be religious.
>>219344708I know enough about Christianity and have engaged with it in earnest.What? you were gonna bring up your jewish subordination heresy of the two towers in heaven? Regardless, if you had seriously engaged with my 3 posts, you'd understand the core point I was making. Instead of these bad faith criticisms, and frankly autistic reading that you routinely have. >>219344216as a man my nature beckons me to be competitive egypsy.
>>219342952>claims more than 100k prophets sent with the same message as momo to all the peoples of the world>each one with a "revelation" or "book">0 evidence of islam >no amazonian muslim prophets >the actual religions momo claimed to be a successor of are incompatible >has to reach for imaginary history and muh unprovable tahrif to cope>gets trolled by everyone because the dude would repeat everything he heard as if it were revelation>gets called The Ear>quran ends up parroting a suspicious mix of legends and tales circulating in 2nd to 5th century arabia>completely gets wrong the Christian religion even in the 6th century (see Surah al-Maidah)>still obsessively claims to correct eyewitness accounts of events he's 6 centuries after and entirely disconnected >would claim 7 dates could save you from poison>dies poisoned by a woman whose entire family he slaughtered
>>219336235>none of us give a fuck about you keeping a dog.Muslim taxi drivers refuse dogs even guide dogs (which is illegal)
>>219344831>>219342952
>>219343102>>219343136He's lying, they also rape and enslave.Mírate Open Doors y no le hagas mucho caso a la gente aquí. Me han llegado a defender musulmierdas egipcios el como secuestran y violan a chicas cristianas en Egipto, haciendo la típica "lo querían/estaban huyendo de casa/son cuentos de las familias que no aceptan que se haya convertido" cuando no saben que tengo amistades cristianas en Egipto que me cuentan las cosas como son, que tienen que tener las iglesias con personal armado y seguridad por los ataques, que a las chicas las secuestran de la calle y las violan y completamente desconectan de sus comunidad por siempre alegando "se han convertido y casado", etc.
>>219344885>t. blind>>219344831
>>219344738Aren't you a devout christian?
>>219344708I don't reject them, true christians are already close to God. Only Allah's mercy decides who will be granted heaven.I just don't consider you one, by any stretch of the imagination.
>>219344816>engaged with it in earnestUntrue. When have you quoted a commentary? When have you outlined the precise Christian understanding and Scriptural support for the Trinity? When my have you ever given any indication you actually deal with the sources?You literally copy-paste the exact same arguments for years to the point I even mentioned ahmed deedat as a popularizer of a specific argument you used.You read a handful of quotes on dawah sites and then prompt ai for more. Do you even realize you cited a verse earlier that of you had read a Christian, non-muslim source it would've been clear?I engage with it earnestly: read the quran, always head to altafsir.com and dive into tafsirs, check what the scholars say, watch dawahniggers (e.g: Farid), read sites like islamweb, islamqa, islamicity, etc. I do my due diligence.
>>219344997Holy shit I'm not attacking the trinity or suggesting you can't interpret the bible that way.And you accuse me of intellectual dishonesty? This was all to give that Qur'anic verse context.
>>219344965>"I just don't consider you one, by any stretch of the imagination.">not knowing Romans >"Only Allah's mercy decides who will be granted heaven."Well, if you're a Jew or a Christian, we will take the place of a muslim in the hellfire.Which is hilarious given you don't believe in free will but rather everything is decided by your islamic deity (jabriya), so he has made into the Christian, islam-defecator I am. The hikma of allah is unknowable.
>>219342925Can you even prove that the 4 Gospels of the New Testament are the quran's injeel?
>>219344997>Do you even realize you cited a verse earlier that of you had read a Christian, non-muslim source it would've been clear?Again, irrelevant to the argument. They are ambiguous scriptures that are able to be interpreted this way, causing the friction in early christdom, that's what I said, and plugged in the king james scrapped version.Don't get hysterical with me now. This is about mary, jesus, holy spirit/word and God. Just say yes or no, Do you deny in practical terms the church fathers interpreted scripture in wildly terms? Do you deny their understanding of trinity varied and diverged since early chirstendom to this day? Do you deny in practical terms, apart from actual heretical sects like Collyridians and others, venerated mary bordering worship (some do to this day)?
>>219345050>islam-defecatorI feel sorry, but Allah knows all in one's heart, and is all merciful.cheers spainard, just behave like a person.
In my experience Islam only works because its believers are completely ignorant. And they are and will always be completely ignorant because they are just retard level low iq. Like really disabled brain wise.
