German taxation by incomeGreen is what you keep (Netto)
rich people shouldn't pay taxes
looks ok to me
>>219380663progressive taxation is good
Don't you get free healthcare or whatever
it's like this because of the need to pay for boomer and muslim gibs
>>219380663based and progressivepilled
This is so laughable.The 5000€ one is engineer level pay btw.https://www.gehaltsvergleich.com/gehalt/Maschinenbauingenieur-MaschinenbauingenieurinGets to keep roughly 2700€ while someone working minimum wage gets to keep 1700€.An engineering degree is hard as balls and if everything goes well you'll be done in 17 to 18 years.A minimum wage job can be performed without any education at all.Consider on top of that that the minimum wage guy will have worked for 7 or 8 years already, during which the engineer won't have earned a dime.Risk vs reward... Unheard of in this shithole apparently.
>>219380829>free"Fee", sure free, if you forget that you already paid for it before it even reaches your paycheck.>>219380663Being taxed to this extent is very harmful.It penalizes effort and success, reduces the incentive to create wealth, and encourages tax evasion and tax optimization.It also sends a troubling message: that the state has a superior claim over your income, and that useless bureaucrats performing unproductive, “bullshit” jobs which are paid by you decide how much of what you earn you are allowed to keep.Also an excessive taxation weakens long-term economic growth by reducing investment, discouraging innovation, and punishing risk-taking.That's why all the best go to America to create wealths in America and improve America.
>>219382905Very good point, nothing to add.
>>219380663kek I have the same net salary as someone who makes 3k euros gross in Germany (I make 2k gross).
>>219380663fun fact. If you are an employed childless man in Germany you pay a special tax. You literally get taxed because girls dont give you pussy, not kidding.
>>219384249do childless women have to pay this tax
>>219384273idk any women to ask them
>>219381190Ja ok wenn du so schlau bist dann haqql doch für Mindestlohn
The somewhat chuddy think tanks say like half of each dollar of income is taxed away in America by the time you can spend it, because (they argue) you have to include employer side payroll taxes plus property tax and sales tax and state and local and everything. I wonder what the comparable figure is in Germany.
>>219381190This is why i only work 10-12days a month, having 1,8k netto, dont wanna support the state but also not neeting? Get into security and chill your job at part time (not full time, 180h+ is killer for the nerves and your money)I've read more manga in the last year than in all my lifetime before, some even sleep on the job and get paid But if you want to pay more for Achmed's welfare and Wolfgangs pension i certainly wont stop you
>>219384420Germans pay like 20% VAT so it's likely even worse.
>give women the right to vote>they immediately vote to have the state forcibly take money from working men to give to themselves>also to kill their babies>teeheecrazy thing about the old testament is that everything inside of it was correct
>taxes vary from 33% to 50%I guess all those fax machines the German government uses cost a lot of money to maintain.
>>219384443so you work only 80 hours a month and get paid 30€ per hour as a fuckin security guard? cool story bruh
>>219384420It's worse than that not only because of higher tax burden but also because of where the money are going. Say, you pay the pension tax. In the Burgerstan that's fine because your pension is just invested into stock market, thus good stock market = wealthy pensioners, and your stock market has been the best in the world for 3 decades by now. Meanwhile the German pension contributions are going not into stock market but to let the state pay retired German citizens, thus if German state ever encounters financial difficulties (which is guaranteed to happen later as the worker ratio is shrinking) all the state-paid retirees will get fucked, unlike in Amerikkka.
>>219384580you work 12h shifts in security but imo a workday is wasted anyway and you get used to it Next time, please look into the shit you think are lies
>>219380663it's probably not even counting the stuff your employer pays to the state for employing you
>>219384456the most normal unitedstatian post
>>219384973ironic considering you would be this hemisphere's second most prosperous country if you weren't shackled to your feminist/socialist vote
>>219384614Social security "tax" doesn't go into a stock market. The government just uses it and when it's time to pay me social security they'll just print more money. If the money I paid went into an account that invested in the stock market, I would have like 5 times more than what I will end up getting from social security.
>>219384973their brains are collectively broken, I'm worried that's our future too
>>219385120401(k) is not stock market?
>>219385150401(k) is not tax nigga. We pay like 8% of our income as social security tax so the government give us back 10% of it when we retire.401(k) is an account you invest in, which I'm sure you can also do.
>>219385150401k is their shifty way of continuing to try to force us to save for our own retirement while already robbing us of "retirement savings" in SS
>>219385247I would happily take out all the money I put into social security (a 6% return even) and invest into my own retirement.
>>219384973He's right though
>>219380663Is /int/ just for reposting redd*t content?I rarely see threads here that don't have slop from other social media sites in the OP.
>>219384448VAT is at 19% here but most European countries have a higher rate.
>>219387116>Uhmmm hmmm akhshually it's not 20%, it's 19% IN GERMANYTypical autistic Kraut
>>219387127Actually the VAT is even reduced to 7% for most groceries.
>>219387127if you buy some shit that costs 100bucks its a difference of a whole buckTo have or not to have the buck
>>219384456Color me surprised that the gender with an instinctive entitlement to the resources of men immediately sets about voting to transfer to themselves the resources of men.There's nothing that makes women seethe more than male NEETs lol.
>>219384273Yes, anyone childless over the age of 26 has to pay higher payroll taxes
>>219380663Sounds pretty fair considering you get free world class healthcare, an awesome welfare network that pays your rent, water, eletricity, internet and even gives 1k to spend on food if you are unemployed, which in result leads to a crime free society for lack of incentive to make crime, you guys live in paradise, if I was european I would neet so hard people would think I died
>>219387306>you live in a paradise because you can leech off the rest of society!!!You just described why 3rd worlders like you are moving into the country while the natives are leavingt. 3rd worlder
>>219387326Europeans themselves created those laws, they also created very harsh legal immigration laws so that normal people can never migrate but at the same time their police is as weak as shopping security and won't enforce it on people coming through boats or overstaying visa and go as far as giving them citizenship down the line, it was no thirdie who did this, they did it and incentivized the whole thing, also no western european country has emigration lol wtf dude nobody is leaving, I'm also not going to your country because since I was forced to work I already got property and don't feel like living with ranjeet, mbappe and rakimi in a shared flat for a few euros
>>219387306>world class healthcare, an awesome welfare network that pays your rent, water, eletricity, internet and even gives 1k to spend on food if you are unemployedWhich doesn't make a lot of sense. People who pay the taxes don't get any of the benefits.>a crime free society for lack of incentive to make crimeI felt very safe in Germany but I am also safe and feel very safe in wealthy places in the US.
>>219387504They do get the benefits... once they drop out of the job market. The country is rewarding the laziest and least ambitious people right now (welfare claimants and retirees). It's dreadful to think that people acquire blue collar education here only to earn $300-600 net more in a month than a cashier at grocery store. I am not even touching white collar ed. I am surprised the flight of ethnic Germans is not bigger than it is
>>219387504>People who pay the taxes don't get any of the benefitsTheir benefit is having near zero risk of getting mugged or killed on the streets because some poor unfortunate souls got nothing in life and their only option was crime, like it happened in their past and still happens in societies like mine and other poor countries>feel very safe in wealthy places in the USyeah, so do I in wealthy shitzilian regions, but they can be safe anywhere in europe not only on those areas
>>219387594>yeah, so do I in wealthy shitzilian regions, but they can be safe anywhere in europe not only on those areasExcept that's not true at all. Places like Paris suburbs or Marseille were always known as dangerous ghettos, and other European cities will slowly have them because believe it or not welfare doesn't eliminate crime.
>>219387625Not being a prick but their crime rates even in the so called dangerous areas of europe are laughable low compared even to safer regions elsewhere, its more a matter of perception than actual numbers
>>219380663>germans pay over half of their money to fund their state and various migrants who actively hate them >germans will unironically brag about how well off they are still out of sheer pride Between you guys, the Swedes, the Brits, and the French i honestly cant tell who is more fucked.
>>219387625>welfare doesn't eliminate crimeWelfare is a way to keep the poorest quiet by providing the necessary security (food shelter some entertainment) so they dont riot, my history teacher told me so
>>219387698I don't know man, I guess then the public housing projects where everyone is on welfare and guaranteed housing must be the safest places on earth.
>>219387730They are pretty safe in Germany. I have a public housing district only 1kms from me and I never heard of nor experienced any robbery, murder or shit. Daily reminder that homicide rate across ENTIRE Germany is lower (1 per 100 000 people) than across the USA whites only (1,6 per 100 000)
>>219387730I dont mean safe as in one could walk there with his 10k bling bling not expecting to get robbed I am talking safe like nobody's gonna do some real anti-state rebellion shit leading to some kind of honest revolution or even reformation
>>219387730Its done half assed outside europe because we expect them to go to work and get out of it as fast as possible, there's not enough to live comfortably out of it and to make it worse it can just be revoked at whim as govts change, european welfare network is absurdly robust and on their constitutions
>>219387844Please, shut the fuck up. The German welfare system was not designed with the goal of creating a permanent underclass of welfare leeches, it too had an idea that you should join the labour market ASAP. You perceive it as "enough to never work again" because you are a 3rd worlder, most ethnic Germans prefer to work instead. Foreigners are overrepresented among welfare claimants for a good reason
>>219387873I perceive it as enough to never work again because a ton of european neets keep posting how easy they got their neetbux out of simple claiming mental illness, those were not brown or black people, but white native europeans lol, I dont know why you are mad at me, you already said you are a thirdie leeching there, I'm not the one abusing them, you are lol
>>219387912>european neets keep posting how easy they got their neetbux out of simple claiming mental illness,Have you considered that a lot of people on 4chan are actually mentally ill?
>>219387912I am telling you how the whole system operates here, negro, the European NEETs post here because they gave up on their lives and 4chan is a place for marginalized parts of society. Actual native German NEETs are pretty rare here. And you do dubious claims like "we expect them to go to work and get out of it as fast as possible", which is just a delusion detached from reality. Not a single country in the world designed a welfare system with the purpose of keeping anybody permanently on welfare, it's counter-productive. What is happening right now is just foreigners exploiting loopholes, but the system was not designed with any intention like that
>>219387924To merit not working? no, they are pretty functional people, you can claim correctly that foreigners are indeed majority on welfare, however you will still get stats like finland where of 80% of the 10% unemployed living on gibs are native fins, similar rate for sweden, this idea that the majority of welfare leeches are only foreigners don't hold at all, they can be majority in their group but not on total, the idea of legit spending years, decades on unemployment support is laughable anywhere outside europe and totally possible in eu countries
>>219380663taxation should be punishable by death
>>219380663What does that 50% tax even go towards?
>>219387951It may not have been designed, but it works like that, you also have insanely strict legal migration laws but still countries like spain, england and france managed to be on replacement levels because people just enter and nobody enforces them, same shit for welfare, you will never leave nobody homeless or starving, outside europe we most definetely will
>>219380690>tf>tpenjoy your cartels cattle
>>219388017>you will never leave nobody homeless or starving, outside europe we most definetely willThis is why This idea of nothing will change so i can exploit destroys what has been build as a kind of safety net in case you get fired This thinking destroys it and you dont seem to notice or troll around it, if its second chapeau
>>219388133Why are you offending me, I'm not leeching in europe, I'm in my thirdie hellhole working, I'm not destroying your place with my thinking or anything, I'm just noooooooticing
>>219380663No one should be allowed to keep more than $1000
>>219388174Where did i offend you?I just, rather harshly, critized the thought of yours
>>219388194This, anything above it should be taxed and sent to israel
>>219388245Took the words right out of my mouth
>>219388217Its not my thought though if it was I would be there abusing it, if europeans thought it was a bad thing they would've changed it by now instead of using it to rub on americans for being more evolved or algo
>>219388292Well gotta give you that, cant cope around that one
Whitoid enabled such system and then cried about it. Why are (you) like this?
>>219388012The eternal boomer
