select a country
>>219397007Not playing untill they stop with the weekly redesigns
holy roman empire
>pick Portugal>ally Castile>destroy forts>delete army>delete navy>speed 5 for 200 yearsSimple as
this but hawaii and 400 years
Knights Hospitaller > Jerusalemjust don't abuse the mechanics too much and it's a ton of fun
>>219397053You will never play again then
Why did it take that long to wipe granada out of map if they already had that much of iberia ?
>>219397189They were taking a siesta for a few years
>>219397189probably the same reason arabs couldn't get the northern coastal bit of iberia
>>219397007Southern Court when the parakikes fix Japan
>>219397189Granada was already subservient to Castille for two hundred years before that
>>219397007Wallachia
>>219397007More like... EWWW5.>>219397080The siesta playthrough.
>select a country
>>219397007Principality of Kyiv, of coursehttps://youtu.be/cr9ukZgr0Ek
>>219397442>subservientThey paid tribute and swore fealty but were fucking rats, they kept trying to betray them and play the Iberian kingdoms against each other
>>219397189Castille forced them to pay tributes, at that point Granada wasn't a threat anymore so might as well milk them
>>219397007sweden because what is going on theredo you have to colonize the rest of it or what
>>219397766Dear God
>>219397007I enjoyed playing Florence, Naples, Portugal, Bohemia till you form germany quickly, novgorod and ERE, I heard jeet tags are cool but havent played there yet and japan people told me to wait
Is the AI better now? Was thinking of getting this when it released but the AI being unable to form even historical countries rubbed me the wrong way, seemed like past 100-200 years you'd just steamroll
>>219398292Its much more aggressive now, the big players expand too hard, but still historical results are rare
>>219398292You would steamroll in any case, the reason for why steamroll happens is the fact that a player is growing his own tax base much faster than the AI does. High tax base = strong regular army.
>>219397007mayapan
>>219397007Knights Hospitaller or Cyprus
There is only ONE correct answer btw.
>>219397007Are you the eu4 mp anon? Wish the discord wasnt dead, I wanna try a eu5 mp game
>>219397007Byzantium so I can the ottomans in their tracks
Is this worth buying yet? I hate shelling out for games full price
>>219397007I chose to play as the true europeans.
>>219397080>Castille gets into a death war with France and calls you in
>>219397007Restore Ilkhanate and do a Bagdad 2.0 of courshe. Remind the Arabs their rightful place
>>219402331They break the game with every update so you have to restart, also UI is extremely shit.
RETVRN
>>219398292It still fails to form a lot of countries, but it is much more proactive in general, and you get some blobs that provide challenge even later in the game.>>219402331I mean it's decent fun already, but it's clearly missing a lot of QoL and balancing. So if you're not burning to play, then I'd say wait a couple of months.
AIEEEEE
>>219404321>better gameEU4 got ruined when they introduced mission trees.
>>219404910the mission trees are a plus, whats the point of getting strong through conventional means if there's no unique modifiers. Every country is the same at that point
>>219397007finally i can play as India and simulate what could have been if england hadnt stabbed us in back.never forget Maratha empire had precipice of establishing richest, powerful empire with 50% of global gdp after hard fought war vs mugal empire, as marathas recovered then england broke peace and attacked treacherously
>>219405038picrel the empire had armies over 500,000 with firearms 200 year before napoleon
>>219405038>losing to a couple thousand brits>but saar this the most powerful country in the world look at geedeepees
>>219404987The mission trees just made the game feel arcade-y in the way countries are handled. They basically made some countries OP as fuck and some even more weaker than before besides losing the freedom of following your own path outside the historical one.
>>219397766What a repulsive bordergore
>>219405067the Marathas were not a real country, they were a weirdly extended raiding expedition
>>219405067No, Mughals had those, you repulsive fucking jeet.Britishers shat upon it as easily as your dysgenic kind shits on the streets of Mumbai
>>219397189They’re all mountains and had a massive fort called Alhambra
>>219397007Cilicia, aka the better Armenia.
eu4 scares and confuses me. I just stick to medieval 2 because it is safe and comforting and low in spreadsheets.
>>219410122EU4 is a war declaration simulator
>>219397189milked for ummahclitty reverse Jizya allowing them to chill out with their gang while being used as a punching bag for centuries for every historical grievance until they were put out of their misery
>>219404453beylikbros.....
>>219410324Bulgaria is monstrously OP, it wrecks all the Beyliks 100% of the time
>>219404453i've never seen him leave central asia
>>219405067>had armies over 500,000Old historians loved exaggerating numbers for storytelling. It's just like how Chinese historians always wrote that the battle had 100,000 deaths and "millions" of people starved to death in sieges
I'm still playing eu4 rn
>>219410506>t. Sabaton fan
>>219405038>>219405067You can go back anytime smelly bastard
>>219404453Agartha's strongest soldier doing the white man's work.
>>219408026i understand the retarded trees like austria or spain getting PUs on everyone but its really satisfying to finish a tree and get some rare modifier like possible number of buildings +1, or shock damage, etc.
>>219397007Daily reminder that you should try MEIOU and Taxes submod for EU4 if you wanna play a fully fledged EU5. The EU5 recruited devs from the MEIOU dev team + stole a lot of concepts, like proximity, control, rivers or general economy
>>219397007*county
>>219410556I'm playing the main character of paradox
>>219412460>Sweden>main characterNot even Paradox think that. Hell, the main think is based in Spain, in first place.
>>219414105>the main thinkmain team, I meant
Ascoli Piceno
>>219397189It was too much of a bother to finish them off until the marriage of Ferdinand and Isabella created a unified modernized kingdom with a strong central army, at which point the chaotic factionalism of Granada made them an easy target
>>219397007Did germany really not have a central government back then or was the HRE more in control than napoleon let on?
>>219414180The HRE was basically a very decentralized federationGerman states were largely autonomous, but bound by a common defense pact against non-Germans
>>219414323the weird thing is that those early wars of France & Poland vs. Austria as the Emperor never happened. Those two great powers never made any attempt to annex HRE territory, with France only strating its eastward expansion under Louis XIV
>>219414355>with France only strating its eastward expansion under Louis XIVEh, that's way too far. In EU4's timeline, the very first Habsburg-Valois conflict would be the Italian Wars, which involved Milan and Naples, and those were at the start of the 1500s.There was also a War of Polish Succession involving the Habsburgs around those times, but I forgot the date.
>>219414488Italy was a meme region of the HRE, had been since Barbarossa, which is why France could safely attack it, everyone knew the Italians hated the Germans
>>219397007Frisia.
>>219414522Pope was brilliant in playing one country against other
>>219414522>Italy was a meme region of the HREWell, true, but that still counts as an imperial war.
>choose any small state from the former roman empire>ally and trade with fellow former empire bros>restore the empire>absorb all the white countries into my new empire>conquer the rest of the land through military might
>>219414577and the Germans hated the Italians right back, hence Sacco di Roma, which is when a legion of heavily armed Germans said Pope who?
I feel like this was the point you could have seen Mali establish itself as an actual African power if not for succession tomfoolery and an inability to integrate it's subject states. And with their massive gold reserves they could have easily became a contender. So I'll play them.
>I'm gonna make this France disappear....>TADA! It's.... gone!
>>219414626Look at what Spain got from sitting on a literal mountain of gold. Gold is a curse, not a gift
>>219414729>EU 5 BohemiaBOO! HISS!
>>219414762They earned that land by being my Catholic shock trooper against the Protestants in the eastern HRE
>>219397189Besides what they have already told you, I read once the Ottomans were quite ready to give a hand to the Emir of Granada and even were negotiating a formal alliance, so the Iberians were not risking having a powerful enemy in their region, thus ended the menace for once.
how do i get far in this game? i always get killed by neighboring kingdoms and duchys after like ten in years game
>>219414746You just need to be good at managing it. Don't go on spending sprees and shit. Mine it, lock it all away in an uber-secure vault, and only use it when you need stimulus or for infrastructure development.Not that I'd trust Malians to do that, but if I'm at the head then why not?
>>219414850Keep grinding. Paradox games have a steep learning curve. I used to consider them intimidating until I reached the point where none of them are hardcore enough
>>219414850i'm not sure if the main patch is still like this but the ai aggressiveness was cranked to a ridiculous degree that made playing next to large countries impossibletry the beta 1.1.0 on steam
>>219397007For me it's the Judicate of Arborea>100% Pre-Indo-European Sardinian bull>Originally a remnant of the Byzantine Empire>Head of State is not a King, nor a Prince but a Judge>Both Genoa and Pisa want to make you their bitch>Aragon wants to annex you>Not even the Pope wants you to surviveSounds like fun.
>>Head of State is not a King, nor a Prince but a Judge
>>219415347>Wait?>Wait for what?>Wait until I annex you!
>>219397766So the Bohemia and France eating up the HRE thing is not a meme?Bohemia is in the HRE, so I guess it makes sense, but why doesn't the Emperor get called in when France attacks?
>>219414180>>219414323Depends on the period. During times Like Otto and Barbarossa it definitely had a central (albeit largely moving) court and was essentially a single state, but at others, and increasingly so later on, it became a less powerful and more of a loose defense pact like the other guy said.
>>219414522>meme regionin what regards? it was definetly the richest and most valuable of the time. though perpetually fragmented into major city states and without contiguous lands under a single power like France.
>>219397007how many years of dlc you reckon it'll take until it's worth playing?
>>219415574as I said, Milan and smaller signorias had a seething hatred for the Emperor and I doubt any taxes were collected at all from Italy after the 13th century
>>219414626Did Mali actually have signifigant institutions and infastructure and basis? or was it just tribals sitting on a literal goldmine? Cause literally all I hear about them is the one rich king going to Mecca, then Nada. gives a flash in the pan vibe, but it was also far away from eurasian stuff, so maybe thats why I dont know.
>>219415601wasnt that a factional thing in italy? like a full half of itally tended to support the empire and the other half the pope?
>>219415645that's what EU5 wants you to believe, but really some rulers just disliked the pope for very personal reasons (none of which were related to atheism in any way)
>>219397007The first one I picked was Oyo. I don't know how to play this game. Even figuring out which province I needed to conquer to start on my path towards having a sizable levy was a hassle.
>>219415407bohemia is the emperor and allies with france>if only you knew how bad things really are.jpg
>>219397007lollmao even
>>219409010Relax, brown. Chinese created gunpowder. Being their earliest cuckstomer isn't a big accomplishment
>>219408772>What a repulsive bordergore
>>219415857Tang created incendiary powder that just made things like fire lances, it was basically less effective Greek fire. The first use of explosive primer in war was near Persia, they had Christian slaves called Mamluks that were recorded using it before anyone else.
>>219411586No wonder EU5 is so bad
>>219416130It's bad for you only because you are a dirty casual. Maybe mobile games are more up your speed
>>219416175I'm more of a fine dining guy who enjoys a classy and refined autism experience. I don't want to indulge in ultra turbo autism like a disgusting senseless pig.
>>219416342You probably also have a 2 inch penis and masturbate to children
>>219417326Indogs btfo
>>219417438There should be an achievement called SAAAR!>move at least 1 million Indian pops to Europe and the Americas
>>219408772Those are average borders for a Paradox game.
>>2194173266 inches. My penis is super interesting actually. It's pretty small unerect but it expands quite a bit when erect. It would probably be an exaggeration to call it a sleeping dragon but I'm not sure what would be an appropriately terrifying beast to symbolize the awakening of a 6 inch dick.
>>219419360Interesting how you didnt deny the pedophile allegations!6 inches is still small
>>219419483>6 inches is still smallI'm fine with that. I may have a small dick but my heart is big.
>>219419213It wasnt THAT awful in EU4
>>219415591luv me Stellaris
>>2194155914Maybe more since they seem to go for retarded civilization packs. But maybe that's the only way to make different countries play differently. I dont know. I know that not everyone can tech and society up the same way. Atm Globohomo is struggling so lets see if they pull this up
>>219405067You have to go back before it's too late
>>219414603>Germans hated the Italians right backThere wasnt animosity between ethnic lines but religious lines, and before that it was just a political question. I doubt the actual peasants on both sides ever cared at all, they were just victims of marching armies
>>219415407Yes, Bohemia starts relatively strong, they've got their capital right in the middle and have fantastic control over all their lands, while also having multiple gold mines. They tend to blob and become one of the strongest countries in the game.
>>219405038Maratha will be a superpower by 2030
>>219420034He's a gujjew he can adapt very well in impending londonistan
>>219415318i want to play a tall sardinia campaign as well
